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I don't follow. I have offered and continue to offer discussion on counterarguments.#1. If you won't offer any discussion to any counter-arguments why are you surprised that people aren't interested in engaging you in a discussion?
If you're referring to my not wanting to rehash debates on the two religious points, it's because I don't want to rehash debates on the two religious points. Even we dense conservative males can occasionally be self-aware enough to avoid paths we know lead to dead ends.
Firstly, I don't post lies. I strive hard to ensure everything I post on DP, excepting satire, has a defensible basis in fact--or in scripture, when concerning moral judgments. If I fail in this objective and post something inaccurate or untrue (it can happen), it isn't deliberate.I didn't expect any answers from the conservative crowd, because (and this is unkind but true) none of you are self-aware enough to explain why you keep re-posting the same old tired lies.
Secondly, I don't re-post the same arguments unless I'm debating people I haven't debated before, or laying them down as a foundation for new arguments.
Thirdly, if endlessly repeating debates truly concerns you, I'd expect to see your name show up in a limited number of abortion-related threads. I joined DP in April of this year and my posts appear in 6 unique threads containing the word "abortion" in the title. A quick search reveals that you joined DP in June of this year and your posts appear in 341 unique threads containing the word "abortion" in the title. Does it not strike you as hypocritical that you're accusing conservatives of lacking self-awareness and reposting the same old tired arguments when you've personally argued your side of the debate at least 341 times in four months?
Finally, aside from the most obvious answer to your question on why conservative males are so stubborn--namely that your sampling of conservative males is largely going to consist of the zealots who have the time and wherewithal to debate you 341 times--have you considered the second most obvious answer to your question: that the conservatives you engage on a daily basis feel so strongly about the subject of abortion that, in their zeal, they seek to prevail in your debates by any and all means, including lying and stretching the truth?
Speaking frankly, I think you know perfectly well the answer to your question. You created this thread to demean and deride conservative men, which I presume is your way of venting after 341 fruitless debates. What you fail to realize is that you're deriding millions of men, myself included, based on the conduct of a handful of political wonks having as much zeal for debating the subject as you do. You're basically looking into a mirror and not liking what you see.
Rather than deriding conservatives and inviting others to do the same, you might want to step back and reexamine what it is you hope to get out of DP and whether your current approach is fulfilling that goal.
Why do we make the litany of items in #314 our business?It's not your business. So why do you insist on making it your business, worse yet, why do you insist on legislating your noseyness?
Obviously, because we live in a society where moral concerns often intersect other people, including handling of their bodies.
I'm not arguing to legislate anything. Abortions were commonplace when they were illegal; man's laws don't change people's hearts and minds. I'm arguing that abortion is murder and that people should regard it as such when choosing whether or not to engage in it. That's all I've ever argued on DP.