a possibility, huh?
obama calls it, "holding out a prospect"
Yeah. Between capital gains and dividends, there's a distinct possibility. Do the math. Seriously.
Stop being so lazy. Examine future cash flows. Examine growth overseas. Do the math. Do your homework. Jesus. The sheer lack of
any effort in your posts is alarming.
"the obama administration has pledged to exit its investment in gm as quickly as possible while holding out the prospect that taxpayers could ultimately be paid back in full"
So they're basically going to get as much money as they can over as short of a period as possible. What I'd expect. And what is responsible. Apparently Obama being responsible is bad to you. :shock:
no, that'd be the financial times
Which is reporting sales from parts of the worst of the recession. Missing the notion of "context" are we?
If you look at
recent news, you find a different picture.
Car sales up from '09: September numbers hint at cautious optimism | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal
Furthermore, you are looking solely at the American market. I
KEEP telling you to research GM's China and South America positions which you repetitively refuse to do.
who cares, this isn't about you
But it is partially about your inability to do math.
it's not about me, grow up
The funny thing is you think you're fooling anyone into thinking you're not a hyper partisan.
3 levels below investment grade, a pension shortfall of 26B, what's to prove?
Know the difference between bonds and stocks? :lamo (I'm betting not)
In a significantly smaller form. Furthermore, Ford has the same problem. I see you haven't looked up Ford's stock price over the last year. Why are you so adamantly against research?
as do declines in real estate, increased unemployment, tight credit and depressed consumer confidence, all of which are "continuing to impact sales" (according to gm's prospectus)
If you look at the past 6 months. Tell me, can you project future cash flows when the variables you are looking at aren't the same as the incoming ones? No. You cannot. So why do you think you can do just that?
GM's Shanghai sales up 57 pct in first 8 months - International Business Times
Shanghai General Motors saw its auto sales rise 57 percent to 641,351 units in the first eight months of2010, the company said in a statement on Wednesday.
Brazil accounts for 10 percent of GM’s global sales volume and the carmaker has made a profit in the country for five years, Ardila said. Rising income and favorable loan conditions are helping GM accelerate growth from about 9 percent currently.
General Motors Predicts 68% Jump in Brazil Sales - Bloomberg
Hmmmm. A partial reason why your argument is so poor is because you refuse to address anything but historical North American data.
"ford's senior economist said the carmaker interpreted recent data 'as a moderation of the pace of recovery, but not a collapse"
I wasn't aware that the only market GM operated was in North America. Please show me how this is true. 44% of GM's sales are overseas. Aside from Europe are relatively profitable.
ford doesn't owe the taxpayer 50B
It owes its banks $27.4 billion. Furthermore, GM's "debt" is not actually bonds. Unlike Ford's banks who can actually force a bankruptcy, GM's "debt" is largely preferred shares. Learn the difference. GM can simply not issue dividends. Ford cannot miss a payment. That is radically different for cash flow.
an increase over the worst august in 30 years isn't much to get excited about
Which basically proves you will never happy with anything because it's a Democrat in office.
quit personalizing, you're demeaning yourself and everyone who reads this
LOL. Is that the best you got? I get it. You don't know cash flows means. It's okay.
And your links says what exactly to support your argument? Is GM only going to be selling cars for 1 more year? :2razz:
I guess you still aren't in on turning $1.6 into $13. Btw, that's the price increase Ford's stock saw.
I see you are
still failing at looking up GM's position in Asia.