Minneapolis

[Rexedgar]

Someone better be in custody by sundown, imo.......

 

[Chomsky]

Someone better be in custody by sundown, imo.......

Haven't been paying attention. I assume it's getting bad?

/googles

"National guard"?

Alright, yeah it must be.

 

[Rexedgar]

Haven't been paying attention. I assyme it's getting bad?

/googles

"National guard"?

FBI presser is just a delaying action, imo.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Agreed, but I am feeling tears and rage for George Floyd AND also for the very neighborhood where I spent the very best and most formative years of my young life, South Minneapolis.
Watching idiot opportunists and anarchists, and just plain JERKS destroy their own neighborhood is devastating.
It is all too easy to dump Minneapolis into some pretend dumpster and call it a ghetto but I lived there, and Minneapolis is a rather well heeled, diverse and vital hub of the Upper Midwest.

If one thinks diversity is a cure for this kind of civil unrest, think again as you watch video clips of people of all races and ethnicities joining in on the fire, the looting and the vandalism.

And the anarchists are having a field day with this, too by the way...





That burnt apartment building is the very building I first lived in when I arrived there in 1978.
It's the very apartment I keep harping on about it costing me 110 bucks a month back then.

 

[Chomsky]

FBI presser is just a delaying action, imo.

And it seems the crowds read it as much.

 

[Rexedgar]

And it seems the crowds read it as much.

I would charge the officer/s just for the common good, at least put off tonight’s protest/riot???

 

[Port & Starboard]

Someone better be in custody by sundown, imo.......

Why?


As long as they wear masks, they are good to go.

 

[lemmiwinx]

Wish I was there now. All you can carry for free from Target and white people are fair game wherever you can find 'em.

 

[Chomsky]

Agreed, but I am feeling tears and rage for George Floyd AND also for the very neighborhood where I spent the very best and most formative years of my young life, South Minneapolis.
Watching idiot opportunists and anarchists, and just plain JERKS destroy their own neighborhood is devastating.
It is all too easy to dump Minneapolis into some pretend dumpster and call it a ghetto but I lived there, and Minneapolis is a rather well heeled, diverse and vital hub of the Upper Midwest.

If one thinks diversity is a cure for this kind of civil unrest, think again as you watch video clips of people of all races and ethnicities joining in on the fire, the looting and the vandalism.

And the anarchists are having a field day with this, too by the way...

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Despite having a poster recently share some data showing Minneapolis having some pretty serious rising crime rates, I never heard anything but good about the city over the years.

Besides, they gave us Crow! Whom I thought were going to be our Deep Purple!

 

[Port & Starboard]

I would charge the officer/s just for the common good, at least put off tonight’s protest/riot???

They will be charged.

Dunno about tonight though.

 

[Chomsky]

I would charge the officer/s just for the common good, at least put off tonight’s protest/riot???

I dunno'. I hate to second guess the work of the DA.

I'm also not crazy in letting the shotgun rule the day, either.

 

[Fiddytree]

There's a lot of intra-group dynamics at play where protesters don't trust the motivations of each other or trust that the destruction to property was done by faithful representatives of the protest. Others feel, rightly or wrongly who the hell knows, that some of the more well-known fires were started by undercover white police officers.

Some folks I follow report that a small cluster of people have, say, a couple of black women who are leading a peaceful protest in one area, but a white man is trying to rile up that same peaceful crowd to become more violent.

Others are going to say that the destruction is the city reaping what it sowed for having its institutions so blatantly disregard the sanctity of minority lives.

Yeah, it's a mess. I'm not on the side of property destruction, but I also take to hear the observations of Martin Luther King Jr. and I don't think we should weigh the property destruction against the blatant murder of a citizen by police.

At the end of the day, the MPD needs to be reformed from top to bottom and the government has to earn the respect of its community again.

 

[Acadia]

Someone better be in custody by sundown, imo.......

Because you want a Freddy Grey outcome?

 

[Rexedgar]

I dunno'. I hate to second guess the work of the DA.

I'm also not crazy in letting the shotgun rule the day, either.

Have you seen the cellphone video?


This is being mishandled, imo.....grossly mishandled.

 

[Acadia]

Have you seen the cellphone video?


This is being mishandled, imo.....grossly mishandled.

On the contrary. The investigators and other persons in charge are doing the right thing, not the feel-good, Veruca Salt thing.
You can' stomp your feet and justify the criminal reactions, or get behind the people who refuse to bow to social pressure who want to do this right and bring justice.

 

[Bum]

Agreed, but I am feeling tears and rage for George Floyd AND also for the very neighborhood where I spent the very best and most formative years of my young life, South Minneapolis.
Watching idiot opportunists and anarchists, and just plain JERKS destroy their own neighborhood is devastating.
It is all too easy to dump Minneapolis into some pretend dumpster and call it a ghetto but I lived there, and Minneapolis is a rather well heeled, diverse and vital hub of the Upper Midwest.

If one thinks diversity is a cure for this kind of civil unrest, think again as you watch video clips of people of all races and ethnicities joining in on the fire, the looting and the vandalism.

And the anarchists are having a field day with this, too by the way...

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That burnt apartment building is the very building I first lived in when I arrived there in 1978.
It's the very apartment I keep harping on about it costing me 110 bucks a month back then.

Thats sad.....in '78 I live in the old Rondo neighborhood in Saint Paul...it was pretty seedy but at the same time it was undergoing a lot of great change.

 

[Rexedgar]

Because you want a Freddy Grey outcome?

Tell me that you condone the actions in the video.

That’s what the courts are for, to sort out the details.

 

[trixare4kids]

Tell me that you condone the actions in the video.

That’s what the courts are for, to sort out the details.

That's not what he said!

:roll:

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Despite having a poster recently share some data showing Minneapolis having some pretty serious rising crime rates, I never heard anything but good about the city over the years.

Besides, they gave us Crow! Whom I thought were going to be our Deep Purple!

The kind of crime that's been going up in Mpls is, if memory serves, burglary, dope, assaults...and a bunch of petty crime and gang related stuff.
Still pales in comparison to other cities the same size.
What crime figures did you see? Different, or about what I am referencing more or less?

Yeah Crow...great band. Maybe not as good as the James Walsh Gypsy Band or Copperhead though.
And don't forget The Suburbs (my old band shared a studio with them for a little while till they moved on) and of course, there's The Purple One...

I am not sure if The Coliseum Ballroom (right on 27th & East Lake) has survived or if it too got burned down last night.
God, I hope not.

The Coliseum is what the Suburbs and Citizen called home back then.

 

[Acadia]

Tell me that you condone the actions in the video.

That’s what the courts are for, to sort out the details.

Tell me you want a Freddy Grey outcome. That's exactly what you and this childish foot stomping is going to deliver.
You want a perp walk. We all do. But it will take time because when the system works the way it's supposed to-not the way it worked for the black man who died under the knee of a cop- it takes the time it takes to go by the book and leave no room for error.

They've got ONE chance to do this.

 

[trixare4kids]

On the contrary. The investigators and other persons in charge are doing the right thing, not the feel-good, Veruca Salt thing.
You can' stomp your feet and justify the criminal reactions, or get behind the people who refuse to bow to social pressure who want to do this right and bring justice.

There's a way to go about this, and cow-towing to mob pressure isn't the way to go about it.

 

[Acadia]

That's not what he said!

:roll:

It's telling when they go right to the straw man. I'm not agreeing with the premise of the OP, therefore, blah blah blah racist blah blah blah.

 

[Acadia]

There's a way to go about this, and cow-towing to mob pressure isn't the way to go about it.

It's most definitely not. Grandstanding for the cameras and grabbing opportunities on the back of a murdered black man isn't the way to go. Again, see Baltimore.
Who's paying for Grey's death?

No one.


But they're right back, doing the same thing an expecting a different result.

 

[Lutherf]

On the contrary. The investigators and other persons in charge are doing the right thing, not the feel-good, Veruca Salt thing.
You can' stomp your feet and justify the criminal reactions, or get behind the people who refuse to bow to social pressure who want to do this right and bring justice.

You don't seem to understand the concept of social justice. Under a social justice system judgement is assessed based on the immediately available evidence and punishment is to be meted out based on public sentiment. Could that lead to poor decisions being made? Sure, but that isn't important because what IS important is that feelings of the people (the people who have a legitimate right to feelings, not Trump supporters) are appropriately addressed.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Thats sad.....in '78 I live in the old Rondo neighborhood in Saint Paul...it was pretty seedy but at the same time it was undergoing a lot of great change.

You must be a good deal older than I am because I don't remember Rondo being exactly "seedy", just tore up, and trying to deal with the aftermath of the highway project. I had some good friends in Rondo Land!

Weird thing is, when I first moved in with Diane (an old flame!) we rented a "house in the city/in the country".
We called it that because the VERY FIRST LEG of the proposed I-55 AND light rail line that eventually got built on Hiawatha in Mpls tore down every single house on that street except the one we were renting.
So we were smack dab in the middle of Minneapolis but if you stepped outside, there was a vast stretch of NOTHING, as if we were out in the countryside!

That house is also gone now too of course, but for seven or eight months we had the entire seven block area to ourselves.
We could **** as loud as we wanted, we could ride minibikes all over the place, we could have huge block parties without bothering anyone, it was our little patch of rural bliss, with the entire city just a few blocks away. :lamo

I remember going to some of the old bars in Rondo.
I wonder if the city ever did finally build the "land bridges" they proposed to rejoin the old community together again.

Land bridges won't bring back the past but it might help heal the area somewhat.