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Milo Busted Promoting Kiddie Sex

RAMOSS said:
Quite often, the pedophiles are victims of child abuse. I do not know if his explanation is true, or the walking back of his being statement. He is a troll though.
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He's an absolute troll, and I think he was doing a couple things here, he was trying to be provocative, as he was also being defensive in rationalizing his own sexual abuse. That's all I saw.
 
Andalublue said:
Rev, you really can't have it both ways. Either his outrageous positions on sexual abuse, transexuality, homosexuality and the like is his coping mechanism, or it's valid political rhetoric and comment. If it's the former, he needs to keep it to the therapy sessions and we need to view it as the verbalised workings of a disordered mind. Yet we are being invited to take his arguments as serious contributions to the political debate on the issues in question, in which case, you bet he's going to reap the storm for minimising the sexual abuse of young teenagers.

So, which is it? Is he indulging in very public therapy sessions, or is his position on all these matters an expression of valid political insight?

He's not being eviscerated for one interview, he's told those stories of 'Father Michael' several times. Perhaps if he got himself some proper psychotherapy he wouldn't have to regale the rest of us with his salacious anecdotes that he likes to call 'context'.
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Both. he's outspoken about those issues, but he got really off the reservation when it hit his own abuse. you can see it in his body language as well as his voice. he's usually sharp as a tack in response and he flusters through this. Did you read the transcript of the exchange?
 
RAMOSS said:
He also does not like women,
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He doesn't like third wave feminists, but is in fact a feminist. Well, according to him anyway.

is a 'men's right activist',
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Is there something wrong with fighting for men's rights? There is in fact work to be done in that area.

claims LGBT should drop the T,
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Considering the issue is not related, it should.

says that there are no such things as lesbians, and being gay is a choice.
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He does? That seems pretty hard to believe considering he said he would like to be cured of his homosexuality.
 
Andalublue said:
It's all terribly ironic, post-modern and ****ed-up in a very 2010s sort of way. We have a far-right troll, who's made his entire schtick about demonising minorities, whipping up unfounded fears of exaggerated dangers emanating from a target community now being turned on by the very people who were applauding his antics and joining in the Islamophobic/transphobic/misogynistic fun.

"Oh my God!" they cry, "We love what he says about towel-heads and tranny freaks, but leave our homophobia alone." I think this thread alone must break some kind of record for the speed of a u-turn, the fastest flip-flops in forum history.

I also love how, when it's CPAC and Simon & Shuster closing down his free speech, no one seems very bothered, but when it's Berkeley students...

I get it that Milo and friends have set their heart on the idea of normalising fascist ideas within the LGBT communities, and on getting LGBT people participating, and being accepted in far-right political circles. I love the delicious irony of him getting hoisted on the petard of his own bigotry. It's a bit like that scene in Game of Thrones when Ramsey Bolton gets eaten by his own attack dogs.
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so many false narratives here. cpac, simon and shuster are private entities, not whining antifa rich kids doing fascist violence in the name of "antifascism" because they don't get thier way. huge difference in the "free speech area".
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
He's an absolute troll, and I think he was doing a couple things here, he was trying to be provocative, as he was also being defensive in rationalizing his own sexual abuse. That's all I saw.
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I think one result of being a victim is a de sensitizing of the emotional response other people get when discussing sexuality, and learning inappropriate behaviors. There was an incident a couple of years ago where a young girl was filmed in the high school bathroom giving sexual favors.. turns out she had just been rescued from human trafficking, and that behavior was 'ingrained' into her. I can see being a rape victim would make milo speak of it inappropriately. His trolling goes far beyond just this one subject matter though.
 
RAMOSS said:
I think one result of being a victim is a de sensitizing of the emotional response other people get when discussing sexuality, and learning inappropriate behaviors. There was an incident a couple of years ago where a young girl was filmed in the high school bathroom giving sexual favors.. turns out she had just been rescued from human trafficking, and that behavior was 'ingrained' into her. I can see being a rape victim would make milo speak of it inappropriately. His trolling goes far beyond just this one subject matter though.
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I agree with you, on all accounts. he is a professional troll, and a victim of abuse.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Both. he's outspoken about those issues, but he got really off the reservation when it hit his own abuse. you can see it in his body language as well as his voice. he's usually sharp as a tack in response and he flusters through this. Did you read the transcript of the exchange?
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Which exchange? The one from Joe Rogan's show, or the one from the Drunken Peasants podcast?
 
TheGoverness said:
I don't see that as a bad thing.

Milo can help (and has helped) change some conservatives' view on gay people. Same goes with Blaire White, who is a transgender woman, and does agree with a lot of conservative viewpoints.

The more people like them on their side, the better.
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Maybe...but mostly I think he's just a sensationalist making money off of being absurd and saying things he know will get people in a tizzy. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but at the same accord it's not like it's some reasoned political debate he's promoting.
 
Ikari said:
Maybe...but mostly I think he's just a sensationalist making money off of being absurd and saying things he know will get people in a tizzy. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but at the same accord it's not like it's some reasoned political debate he's promoting.
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I don't disagree.
 
TheGoverness said:
I don't disagree.
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I agree totally with him being a publicity hound and political opportunist, but I do disagree about what he says being "okay".

I dare say that many on here would not condone our children making the same comments that Milo makes and would definitely think that it was wrong to make them. At least I sincerely hope that most would.
 
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Interesting article - written last week - described as an attempt to "connect the dots between "the gamer community" and Milo, Trump, 4Chan, unemployment, parental basements, and girls/women finding them unattractive. It's worth a read. "

4chan: The Skeleton Key to the Rise of Trump

Trump’s younger supporters know he’s an incompetent joke; in fact, that’s why they support him.

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"This essay is an attempt to untangle the threads of 4chan and the far right...

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If this sounds hard to believe, take for example Milo Yiannopoulos, the “Technology Editor” at Breitbart News, whose scheduled lecture this month at Berkeley spawned massive riots and protests. Yiannopoulos rose to prominence via Gamergate. He is not a “technology” editor because he compares the chip architectures of competing graphics cards. Rather the “tech” here is code for the fact that his audience is the vast population of sad young men who have retreated to internet communities.
Likewise the mainstream press sometimes describes him as troll as a way of capturing his vague association with 4chan. This term, too, is inaccurate. He is 4chan at its most earnest, after all these men have finally discovered their issue — the thing that unites them — their failure and powerlessness literally embodied (to them) by women.

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Here Yiannopoulos has inverted what has actually happened to make his audience feel good. Men who have retreated to video games and internet porn can now characterize their helpless flight as an empowered conscious choice to reject women for something else. In other words, it justifies a lifestyle which in their hearts they previously regarded helplessly as a mark of shame."
 
Ikari said:
Maybe...but mostly I think he's just a sensationalist making money off of being absurd and saying things he know will get people in a tizzy. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but at the same accord it's not like it's some reasoned political debate he's promoting.
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Live by the troll; die by the troll.
 
Texasindy said:
I really can't believe George Carlin is being brought into this. I don't know if it's a diversionary tactic or if some of ya'll really have that failed of logic.

Huge difference here is Carlin was a comedian. We understood that about 95% of what he said was not to be taken seriously on stage.

However, Milos is an editor at breitbart. A news organization, no matter how ridiculous the crap they print is, still tries to present it's self as serious. He as a high profile senior staff member should have known that those comments were going to be very toxic. It was a horrible misstep and trying to draw comparisons to a comedians act is clouding the conversation and a clear diversionary tactic.

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well on top of that he was giving speeches on behalf of political candidates and events on behalf of political orgs like the college republicans at berkeley. I highly doubt these are things carlin or many other comedians ever consider
 
RAMOSS said:
He also does not like women, is a 'men's right activist', claims LGBT should drop the T, says that there are no such things as lesbians, and being gay is a choice.

Isn't it nice to know you don't exist?
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well now i understand why republicans fawn over him. Like i said, worst gay 'advocate' ever. Still, for republicans that represents progress
 
chromium said:
well now i understand why republicans fawn over him. Like i said, worst gay 'advocate' ever. Still, for republicans that represents progress
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Well, yes. He also has problems 'he is not a conservative', so it makes me wonder why he got invited to CPAC to begin with in the first place.
 
Henrin said:
Considering the issue is not related, it should.
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And yet the same trans haters today were (and often still are) gay haters yesterday. The same politicians pursuing the same discrimination, even in the same bill like HB2.

Issues don't have to be identical to share a cause. For instance i can't understand or have sympathy for racial activists who oppose the gay rights movement. They're totally different, but the effect is the same - people being trampled on as 2nd class

Henrin said:
He does? That seems pretty hard to believe considering he said he would like to be cured of his homosexuality.
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He said it's more nurture than nature...and no it shouldn't be hard to believe. Reactionaries looking to make a profit will say anything and everything
 
RAMOSS said:
Well, yes. He also has problems 'he is not a conservative', so it makes me wonder why he got invited to CPAC to begin with in the first place.
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Because Berkeley is bastion for liberalism and they wouldn't let him speak there. You think many at CPAC know the first clue of his economic comments in the past? He's a conservative "celebrity" by way of he was opposed by liberals

It's like is Trump really a conservative? Who cares, the liberals hate him!
 
RAMOSS said:
Well, yes. He also has problems 'he is not a conservative', so it makes me wonder why he got invited to CPAC to begin with in the first place.
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He was the CPAC "token gay". Once the pedophile story broke, they had no choice but to uninvite him.
 
As soon as Milo crap hit the fan the political right was universal in condemning his statements.


After Roman Polanski drugged and raped a 13 year old, more than 100 Hollywood liberals, including Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, Darren Aronofsky, and David Lynch, signed a petition to keep him out of prison.
 
Like they had a choice. If they actually believed half the rhetoric they put out, the CPAC would have never invited him in the first place.
 
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