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Mika From Morning Joe Says "It's Our Job To Control What People Think"

Kal'Stang

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How many of you agree with Mika? Is it their job to control what people think?

Personally I think what she said was disgusting and indicative of what pretty much all of the major "news" media thinks.

 
Kal'Stang said:
How many of you agree with Mika? Is it their job to control what people think?

Personally I think what she said was disgusting and indicative of what pretty much all of the major "news" media thinks.

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Naaaah, dude; she was saying that the media's job is to out what Trump is doing to people's thinking.
 
Kal'Stang said:
How many of you agree with Mika? Is it their job to control what people think?

Personally I think what she said was disgusting and indicative of what pretty much all of the major "news" media thinks.

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Yeah cutting it off just when she was explaining what she meant, way to go.
 
Kal'Stang said:
How many of you agree with Mika? Is it their job to control what people think?

Personally I think what she said was disgusting and indicative of what pretty much all of the major "news" media thinks.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/02/22/msnbcs_brzezinski_trump_thinks_he_can_control_exactly_what_people_think_but_thats_our_job.html

She tweeted later that she "said the media's job was to keep President Trump from making up his own facts, NOT that it's our job to control what people think."
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Of course, that is also obvious from the context of what she was saying. But do not let honesty get in your way...

Edit: this is also from over a year ago...
 
Redress said:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/02/22/msnbcs_brzezinski_trump_thinks_he_can_control_exactly_what_people_think_but_thats_our_job.html



Of course, that is also obvious from the context of what she was saying. But do not let honesty get in your way...

Edit: this is also from over a year ago...
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That it happened over a year ago is irrelevant if its still happening. :shrug:

And her tweet was/is a lie considering there is video evidence of what she actually said. Maybe if she had instead said that she "meant to say" there'd be some leeway, but that's not what she tweeted. She doubled down by attempting to say that she said something which video evidence, and transcript provided by your own link, shows that she did not say.
 
Kal'Stang said:
That it happened over a year ago is irrelevant if its still happening. :shrug:

And her tweet was/is a lie considering there is video evidence of what she actually said. Maybe if she had instead said that she "meant to say" there'd be some leeway, but that's not what she tweeted. She doubled down by attempting to say that she said something which video evidence, and transcript provided by your own link, shows that she did not say.
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What she actually said, when you look at the whole quote, was that it was the medias job to not let Trump make up his own facts. I know, I know, you want so badly to think that some one said it is their job to control what people think that you cannot examine the quote critically, but instead have to let others tell you what she meant. The irony in that is immense, but the simplest explanation is usually the one that fits, and given a choice between her saying that it is the media's job to control what people think, on the air, or that she was referring to not letting Trump make up facts, one is a whole ****load more likely. But you will never believe that because it does not fit with the narrative you want to build...

And of course the final irony is she did not say what you have in quotes in the thread title. That is simply your interpretation. Please do try and fail less.
 
Redress said:
What she actually said, when you look at the whole quote, was that it was the medias job to not let Trump make up his own facts. I know, I know, you want so badly to think that some one said it is their job to control what people think that you cannot examine the quote critically, but instead have to let others tell you what she meant. The irony in that is immense, but the simplest explanation is usually the one that fits, and given a choice between her saying that it is the media's job to control what people think, on the air, or that she was referring to not letting Trump make up facts, one is a whole ****load more likely. But you will never believe that because it does not fit with the narrative you want to build...

And of course the final irony is she did not say what you have in quotes in the thread title. That is simply your interpretation. Please do try and fail less.
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Directly from the transcript of your own link:

SCARBOROUGH: Exactly. That is exactly what I hear. What Yamiche [Alcindor] said is what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talk to who were Trump voters and are still Trump supporters. They go, 'Yeah you guys are going crazy. He's doing -- what are you so surprised about? He is doing exactly what he said he is going to do.'

BRZEZINSKI: Well, I think that the dangerous, you know, edges here are that he is trying to undermine the media and trying to make up his own facts. And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job.
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I even gave video proof in the OP.

Sorry but you saying what she "meant" vs what she actually said are two very different things.
 
Mika From Morning Joe Says "It's Our Job To Control What People Think"

Kal'Stang said:
That it happened over a year ago is irrelevant if its still happening. :shrug:

And her tweet was/is a lie considering there is video evidence of what she actually said. Maybe if she had instead said that she "meant to say" there'd be some leeway, but that's not what she tweeted. She doubled down by attempting to say that she said something which video evidence, and transcript provided by your own link, shows that she did not say.
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I find this phenomenon that the media tells people what to think lacking in current mainstream American culture. Most people don't even know what trump tweets everyday and could care less. Along with the toxic anti-media culture that is prevalent in our society. If someone is allowing the media to control what they think. I'm not seeing it in anybody but the current POTUS with his love affair of fox news.

There is no there there.


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Kal'Stang said:
How many of you agree with Mika? Is it their job to control what people think?

Personally I think what she said was disgusting and indicative of what pretty much all of the major "news" media thinks.

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That's not quite how I heard it either but remember, Roger Ailes summed it up to Nixon in his 1969 memo, "A Plan For Putting the GOP on TV News"


"Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication.
The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you."
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Roger Ailes' Secret Nixon-Era Blueprint for Fox News
 
Kal'Stang said:
Directly from the transcript of your own link:



I even gave video proof in the OP.

Sorry but you saying what she "meant" vs what she actually said are two very different things.
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I sure hope you don't think she meant that "it's our job" 'to make up their own facts'.
Please tell me you don't think that.
Think Daniel Inouye.
 
To think she meant that it's their job to make up the facts would be an extremely Rovian way of looking at it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community#Origin

"That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do".
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(Karl Rove)
 
Kal'Stang said:
That it happened over a year ago is irrelevant if its still happening. :shrug:

And her tweet was/is a lie considering there is video evidence of what she actually said. Maybe if she had instead said that she "meant to say" there'd be some leeway, but that's not what she tweeted. She doubled down by attempting to say that she said something which video evidence, and transcript provided by your own link, shows that she did not say.
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Honestly, she could have in fact misspoke. The fact that she didn't actually retract or correct what she said, makes that possibility a remote one if you ask me.

It's the job of the news media to present the facts, and allow the public to form their own conclusions. They are not supposed to present the public with facts, packaged with the media's predetermined conclusions... which is exactly what Mika and the majority of the mainstream media do on a daily basis.

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Kal'Stang said:
How many of you agree with Mika? Is it their job to control what people think?

Personally I think what she said was disgusting and indicative of what pretty much all of the major "news" media thinks.

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This isn't the first time. She has at least one other time said that it was her (the media's) job to tell people what to think.
 
Grim17 said:
Honestly, she could have in fact misspoke. The fact that she didn't actually retract or correct what she said, makes that possibility a remote one if you ask me.

It's the job of the news media to present the facts, and allow the public to form their own conclusions. They are not supposed to present the public with facts, packaged with the media's predetermined conclusions... which is exactly what Mika and the majority of the mainstream media do on a daily basis.

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Exactly. If she had retracted or corrected what she said then I wouldn't have made this thread. But she didn't.
 
Kal'Stang said:
If you have a more complete video I'd like to hear it. Though how anyone can explain away that statement I have no idea.
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What I her say was that 'Trump is trying to undermine the media, so that if the economy worsens he can explain it away. so that he can tell people what to think... that's you job to...'

She may have continued and said, 'that's you job to fact-check what Trump says to combat his lies...'

But we don't know since the video ends prematurely.
 
Probably some sort of Freudian slip by Mika, but she is telling the truth. Many of us have known of this for a very long time.

Edward Bernays was hired for this purpose, and Josef Goebbels explained it very well. The perceptions of the public are very tightly controlled and highly manipulated.
 
Lovebug said:
So what's your point? They did it so it's ok for them to do it?
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I think you might want to scroll back and re-read, because that is not what I said either.
It's not my job to reprint what I said two pages ago, you go look it up if you're interested, it's right there after Kal.
 
MTAtech said:
She tweeted later that she "said the media's job was to keep President Trump from making up his own facts, NOT that it's our job to control what people think."

https://twitter.com/morningmika/status/834463604531404800

BTW, this was a year ago, February.
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Exactly, think Daniel Patrick Moynihan (I said Inouye earlier but that was a brain fart!)

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."
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Mika was saying that Trump isn't allowed to make up his own facts, and that it's the media's job to provide the facts.
 
Look, it's clear that conservatives think they found an "aaa-HAAAA!" moment, so they're going to cling to it the way my dog clings to a beef rib she snatched off the dinner table.

And it's pure projection because as I pointed out earlier, Karl Rove set the tone for Republicans back in the runup to the Iraq War and has never even commented on his statement since, neither doubling down nor walking it back.

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Perhaps they are feeling guilty about Rove.

Personally, when I read that statement, I hear the voice of Ralphie Wiggum.

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And Ailes set the tone a generation ago in his wet dream about Fox News, so Mika's little brain fart isn't bothering me in the least. The Right has Fox News, and at some point President Murdoch, who is 194 years old, is going to die, and his kids do not share his politics.
 
Kal'Stang said:
How many of you agree with Mika? Is it their job to control what people think?

Personally I think what she said was disgusting and indicative of what pretty much all of the major "news" media thinks.

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That comment is to journalism what 'juicing' is to the Olympics. The aim of the news media is to present all pertaining information (a judgement) so that the reader/viewer can make up their own mind.

The wise have thrown their TV's out the window. I resigned from television news in 1988 with "television news is an oxymoron, good bye". TV has greately deteriorated since then leading to such interesting events as Hillary Clinton running for president against Donald Trump.
 
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