Michael Savage ... huh ?

[bullseyelqcs]

Actually, your response makes no sense in comparison to what I posted. People still support CNN but I have stated they are the lowest rated cable new network out there. And from that statement you have arrived at I think Alex Jones is factually correct because people watch him?



CNNs rating aren't the lowest because they were truthful. They are the lowest because people decided they were mostly fake news and got tired of listening to the same old lies night after night. And if Alex Jones had a rating it would be substantially lower than CNNs. Alex Jones is looked upon as a fraud and a conspiracy theorist hence he is only an internet show with a few thousand viewers. Much like anyone on the planet could have with very little financial commitment.

So yeah, obviously, the stupid and ignorant are watching Alex Jones while the more intelligent will provide more viewership to what they perceive as stable intelligent news. You can't have it both ways just because you don't like Fox. Fox maintains 2/3rds more viewers than CNN and millions upon millions more than Alex Jones. Are you starting to see a pattern here. Thats because there is a pattern.

CNN and Fox are not daily entertainment programing. They are news resources. People aren't tuning in for laughs, game shows, or medical advice. So there ratings only have one single qualifier. A news resource. The higher the viewer ratings, the more that particular network is trusted for accuracy. There isn't any other ratings for news networks.

Interesting premise for an argument, since of the 34 constantly showing shows on the network, only 3 of them are actual news. That means that less that 10% of the shows on Fox "News" are actual news programs. The rest consist of entertainers spewing opinion about the news. That is how they have gotten away with this **** for so long. They profess to tell people the news, and when called on the inaccuracy of that "news" report, the fall back on the boilerplate response of not being journalists, but entertainers. Then, they don't have to hold themselves to the same standard that they hold the actual journalists they constantly rail against to.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

If that were true, how would you explain the fact that CNN ratings have tanked to the lowest cable news network falling even below Nickelodeon while Fox has maintained the number 1 viewership in cable news for 3 years now. Now you have other Liberal media outlets like NYT refusing to allow their reporters to be on CNN because they don't want to be viewed in the same light as fake news.

You post isn't supported by any of the current events taking place in any viewer ratings provided by all of the network cable viewership reports.

First off Michael Savage is primarily a radio host. He has nothing to do with cable news ratings. Second, extolling the virtues of cable news ratings is like claiming that the best Little League team is worthy of being inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Even the worst broadcast network news outranks the cable news channels in the ratings.

In a earlier career I spent a lot of time on the road and I listened to all the right-wing pundits on the radio both local and syndicated. They are all a bunch of phonies. Their fake outrage was simply intended to gin up ratings nothing more.

 

[Condor060]

Interesting premise for an argument, since of the 34 constantly showing shows on the network, only 3 of them are actual news. That means that less that 10% of the shows on Fox "News" are actual news programs. The rest consist of entertainers spewing opinion about the news. That is how they have gotten away with this **** for so long. They profess to tell people the news, and when called on the inaccuracy of that "news" report, the fall back on the boilerplate response of not being journalists, but entertainers. Then, they don't have to hold themselves to the same standard that they hold the actual journalists they constantly rail against to.

So what is the difference between CNN, MSNBC, and FOX. They all have the same formats.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

So what is the difference between CNN, MSNBC, and FOX. They all have the same formats.

Nobody has tried to make the claim that Crossfire is actual news. The same can't be said for The Five.

That is the difference. Nobody tries to claim that the opinion shows on CNN or MSNBC are anything other than that. Well nobody besides conservatives when they need to complain that a "news" show made something up. Those same people will tell you that Sean Hannity and Mark Levin are shooting you the straight ****.

 

[Nickyjo]

If that were true, how would you explain the fact that CNN ratings have tanked to the lowest cable news network falling even below Nickelodeon while Fox has maintained the number 1 viewership in cable news for 3 years now. Now you have other Liberal media outlets like NYT refusing to allow their reporters to be on CNN because they don't want to be viewed in the same light as fake news.

You post isn't supported by any of the current events taking place in any viewer ratings provided by all of the network cable viewership reports.

Fox has high ratings I assume because of the demographics of who watches cable tv news: middle aged or older white guys who trend conservative. Fox gives them what they like. Has little to do with accuracy or quality of reporting. In addition, as one of those guys I watch it from time to time cause I like looking at women’s legs. Put pants on them and watch their ratings plummet. When Fox first appeared, Esquire had an item on them titled: “Fair and balanced... and *****.” Still true.

 

[Condor060]

Fox has high ratings I assume because of the demographics of who watches cable tv news: middle aged or older white guys who trend conservative. Fox gives them what they like. Has little to do with accuracy or quality of reporting. In addition, as one of those guys I watch it from time to time cause I like looking at women’s legs. Put pants on them and watch their ratings plummet. When Fox first appeared, Esquire had an item on them titled: “Fair and balanced... and *****.” Still true.

That doesn't make sense. How would those same demographics change for CNN as they were the number 1 rated news in the very same cable news network for years.

 

[foolardi]

love his use of { } brackets instead of standard parentheses (), or by using a comma or dash to separate parts of a sentence or thought.

It's like someone fed him intravenously with some weird mix of bad poetry and computer programming until he couldn't tell them apart. That, mixed with the fact that it doesn't seem like English is their first language, or that they're just really uneducated.

Making a point { decidedly } to Attack a poster instead of replying to the thread's
context is a message board violation.

 

[foolardi]

That doesn't make sense. How would those same demographics change for CNN as they were the number 1 rated news in the very same cable news network for years.

This is not Your Grandfather's CNN.Where we had a great anchor Bernie Shaw and
guys like John Holliman and Peter Arnett of the infamous " Boys of Baghdad " reporting.
Run like a Mongolian Chieftain by Ted Turner.

 

[foolardi]

love his use of { } brackets instead of standard parentheses (), or by using a comma or dash to separate parts of a sentence or thought.

It's like someone fed him intravenously with some weird mix of bad poetry and computer programming until he couldn't tell them apart. That, mixed with the fact that it doesn't seem like English is their first language, or that they're just really uneducated.

Starting off a sentence w/o capitalizing the fist letter of the first word ... anyone.! { " love " }
" Winning anyone " - now embarrassed Charlie Sheen.

 

[Mina]

The near ubiquitous Grand Wizard of Talk Radio { to hear him tell it }
is back in his preternatural form.Meaning he's found a way to complain about
something many thought almost impossible.The man who claims { about every 5
minutes } how thoroughly original and utterly unigue his comments are.If someone got a
nickel for every time Dr.Savage { has one or two Ph.D's depending on if it's sunny outside
or rainy,like in Paris } is back in true form { castigating mode } and his newest victim or
target is our President.Who he claims every show he was the one most responsible for his
election.The guy who felt it necessary to change his last name and has virtually No
colleagues in Talk Radio,yet pleads how he's a bona fide conservative in the truest sense of
the word.I wonder how many CPAC he's attended.Maybe One,more likely ... None.
He lives to do basically 3 things On air.Self-promote and brag incessantly on hisself,
call out in the most vitriolic of words and names,anyone he's upset with.And find a way
to copy or plagiarize the latest new saying or punditry that is very fasionable.It literally
drives him batty.And he of course responds in the most vocal of tones.Usually yelling
and of course threatening and name-calling to the point of making Judge Roy Bean seem meek
{ Infamous eccentric saloon-keeper and Justice of the Peace with his own
laws [ The Law West of the Pecos ].Judge Roy Bean,if around today would have
nothing on Dr.Savage ... Today.Or yesterday or last year.Maybe in Eternity,we'll just have
to wait and see.
I could have predicted this.That Savage would eventually Turn on Donald Trump.
Because in the most simplest of explanations ... It's what the guy does.
He appeals to those { Like New Yorkers and those from New Jersey } who love to hear
potty mouths and those who call out as if in some Mafioso private club,others.
For no apparent reason.Just because.Maybe it's something to dr beats listening to
raindrops hit the nearest windowpane.
Savage made the top of The Drudge Report the other day.The N.Y.Times ran an article
explaining how President Trump, is no longer the hero for Michael Savage.In fact,he's
turned almost on a dime into a Anti-hero of sorts.Because Savage swears he can't tolerate
anyone seen as some demigod.Which is really choice.USDA Prime and make no mistake
about it.The Man { or Doctor } who can't Literally go 5 minutes w/o bragging on himself
while castigating and name-calling others in his field is now The Biggest and most explainable
example of a nouveau Baron Munchausen.The parallel is stunning.Nothing short of
picture perfect.
The Man who can't keep his big fat trap shut long enough to spare any insects in his
vicinity is Proving just Who He is.
A Complete and demonstrable Loud Mouth Hypocrite.

Savage has never been a serious commentator. He's just a shock jock for the right, and his brand niche requires him to occasionally fire at politicians on the right, as well as the left. But it's funny to watch the Cult of Trump freak out about that. I've never seen a politician who inspires such mindless, obsequious devotion as Trump.

Ironically, I think it comes down to how self-evidently awful he is. It's very much the way religions actually become more fervent when their underpinnings are exposed as false. When the religious become aware that they've been following a false prophet (e.g., when Jesus' generation passed and the end of the world didn't come the way he'd prophesized it would in their time), it's painfully embarrassing, because of how much energy and self-worth the followers have invested into it. It's simply not possible for most people to admit they erred that much on something that close to their hearts, so they double down and become more strident and absolute in their reality-defiance. The more vulnerable they feel, the less they can tolerate anything that threatens their ideas. And so cults get weirder and more committed when they realize they've built their castles on sand.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

That doesn't make sense. How would those same demographics change for CNN as they were the number 1 rated news in the very same cable news network for years.

And for many years CNN was the only news outlet on cable. That was before Reagan did away with the Fairness Doctrine and opened the door for the likes of Rupert Murdoch. Even then, CNN never held a candle to broadcast news outlets when it came to ratings.

And the idea that a cable channel's ratings is indicative of the objectivity of their reporting is ludicrous on its face.

 

[Condor060]

And for many years CNN was the only news outlet on cable. That was before Reagan did away with the Fairness Doctrine and opened the door for the likes of Rupert Murdoch. Even then, CNN never held a candle to broadcast news outlets when it came to ratings.

And the idea that a cable channel's ratings is indicative of the objectivity of their reporting is ludicrous on its face.

Yet the day the Mueller report came out, CNNs ratings tanked. All evidence to the contrary. CNN and Fox have been competing cable news networks for 25 years. CNN was #1 and Fox was #3.

Fox is now #1 and CNN is #22

 

[Condor060]

This is not Your Grandfather's CNN.Where we had a great anchor Bernie Shaw and
guys like John Holliman and Peter Arnett of the infamous " Boys of Baghdad " reporting.
Run like a Mongolian Chieftain by Ted Turner.

CNN and Fox have been competing cable new networks for 25 years. CNN was ranked number 1 and Fox number 3. Now fox is now number 1 and CNN is 22nd.

 

[Nickyjo]

That doesn't make sense. How would those same demographics change for CNN as they were the number 1 rated news in the very same cable news network for years.

Just guessing here, but CNN had the field to themselves for a while. Fox business model caught up to them.

 

[Condor060]

Just guessing here, but CNN had the field to themselves for a while. Fox business model caught up to them.

Absolutely true. Fox came into the market 25 years ago so they have been competitors for quite some time now. CNN was #1 and the closes Fox came was #3. Until the Trump campaign started 3 years ago.

Fox has been #1 now for 63 consecutive months and after the Mueller report dropped, CNN nosedived to #22. That is a pretty dramatic fall. Even other media host (NYT) have refused to allow their reporters to be interviewed by CNN now as they don't want to be associated with the views of the station.

 

[Mason66]

Friendly tip: format your posts with proper spacing and punctuation so that they are readable.

The above compressed word-salad is migraine inducing.

I got through 5 lines, but that was it.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Yet the day the Mueller report came out, CNNs ratings tanked. All evidence to the contrary. CNN and Fox have been competing cable news networks for 25 years. CNN was #1 and Fox was #3.

Fox is now #1 and CNN is #22

Again, you base the quality of a news outlet on its Nielsen ratings? Popularity = good reporting?

Based on that, CBS News is WAAAAY better than Fox News, by literally millions of viewers.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

The near ubiquitous Grand Wizard of Talk Radio { to hear him tell it }
is back in his preternatural form.Meaning he's found a way to complain about
something many thought almost impossible.The man who claims { about every 5
minutes } how thoroughly original and utterly unigue his comments are.If someone got a
nickel for every time Dr.Savage { has one or two Ph.D's depending on if it's sunny outside
or rainy,like in Paris } is back in true form { castigating mode } and his newest victim or
target is our President.Who he claims every show he was the one most responsible for his
election.The guy who felt it necessary to change his last name and has virtually No
colleagues in Talk Radio,yet pleads how he's a bona fide conservative in the truest sense of
the word.I wonder how many CPAC he's attended.Maybe One,more likely ... None.
He lives to do basically 3 things On air.Self-promote and brag incessantly on hisself,
call out in the most vitriolic of words and names,anyone he's upset with.And find a way
to copy or plagiarize the latest new saying or punditry that is very fasionable.It literally
drives him batty.And he of course responds in the most vocal of tones.Usually yelling
and of course threatening and name-calling to the point of making Judge Roy Bean seem meek
{ Infamous eccentric saloon-keeper and Justice of the Peace with his own
laws [ The Law West of the Pecos ].Judge Roy Bean,if around today would have
nothing on Dr.Savage ... Today.Or yesterday or last year.Maybe in Eternity,we'll just have
to wait and see.
I could have predicted this.That Savage would eventually Turn on Donald Trump.
Because in the most simplest of explanations ... It's what the guy does.
He appeals to those { Like New Yorkers and those from New Jersey } who love to hear
potty mouths and those who call out as if in some Mafioso private club,others.
For no apparent reason.Just because.Maybe it's something to dr beats listening to
raindrops hit the nearest windowpane.
Savage made the top of The Drudge Report the other day.The N.Y.Times ran an article
explaining how President Trump, is no longer the hero for Michael Savage.In fact,he's
turned almost on a dime into a Anti-hero of sorts.Because Savage swears he can't tolerate
anyone seen as some demigod.Which is really choice.USDA Prime and make no mistake
about it.The Man { or Doctor } who can't Literally go 5 minutes w/o bragging on himself
while castigating and name-calling others in his field is now The Biggest and most explainable
example of a nouveau Baron Munchausen.The parallel is stunning.Nothing short of
picture perfect.
The Man who can't keep his big fat trap shut long enough to spare any insects in his
vicinity is Proving just Who He is.
A Complete and demonstrable Loud Mouth Hypocrite.

I'll summarize. Michael Savage has turned on Donald Trump according to the OP. That must mean there is something wrong with Michael Savage because we all know that Trump is the greatest president ever.

Have you ever considered that maybe Trump is the problem?

 

[Grandpappy]

CNN was a big source of all the fake "bombshells" and breathless reports of the demise of the Trump administration in the last two years. All BS, all for ratings. Fox, on the other hand, had a more realistic approach in covering the Mueller/fake news/spygate story.
Who's more credible?

 

[foolardi]

Savage has never been a serious commentator. He's just a shock jock for the right, and his brand niche requires him to occasionally fire at politicians on the right, as well as the left. But it's funny to watch the Cult of Trump freak out about that. I've never seen a politician who inspires such mindless, obsequious devotion as Trump.

Ironically, I think it comes down to how self-evidently awful he is. It's very much the way religions actually become more fervent when their underpinnings are exposed as false. When the religious become aware that they've been following a false prophet (e.g., when Jesus' generation passed and the end of the world didn't come the way he'd prophesized it would in their time), it's painfully embarrassing, because of how much energy and self-worth the followers have invested into it. It's simply not possible for most people to admit they erred that much on something that close to their hearts, so they double down and become more strident and absolute in their reality-defiance. The more vulnerable they feel, the less they can tolerate anything that threatens their ideas. And so cults get weirder and more committed when they realize they've built their castles on sand.

I did not post that sentence structure.With broken gaps after each sentence.

 

[foolardi]

I'll summarize. Michael Savage has turned on Donald Trump according to the OP. That must mean there is something wrong with Michael Savage because we all know that Trump is the greatest president ever.

Have you ever considered that maybe Trump is the problem?

That is not what I put up as thread.With broken gaps after each sentence.
Someone is manipulating my sentence structure.

 

[Pound4abrown]

Nah, it's his 'thing'; y'know, edgy, individual, urban cool, rebellious non-conformism:lamo

yeah the ee cummings of the DP

 

[Pound4abrown]

This isn't English class.Stop derailing threads.Is that Plain enough English for you to read.

So if you don't care enough about how your comments are presented, why should anyone else?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

I did not post that sentence structure.With broken gaps after each sentence.

So what? When someone quotes you, they are entitled and allowed to correct your grammar, spelling, and punctuation. As long as they do not alter your meaning, there is nothing improper about it. Responsible journalists do that quite frequently.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Have you ever considered that maybe Trump is the problem?

Blasphemy!