McCain: No American has seen healthcare bill, but I'm sure Russia has

[Praxas]

Snopes LOL!

I accept your concession you can't refute any of it. Funny you can't con.

 

[WCH]

this was in the post above the one you replied to



and this is in addition to Praxas' post 50. so now that its been proven, what your new "narrative" to rationalize the current republican BS? Oh and you'll notice that Bubbabgone cut and ran from his "hypocrite" narrative.

Like I said, up until lately, it didn't matter.

BTW: the NYTimes is a Leftist rag deluxe. You must of forgotten that.

 

[WCH]

I accept your concession you can't refute any of it. Funny you can't con.

It far more likely, that with your attitude, you are the 'con'.

 

[Praxas]

It far more likely, that with your attitude, you are the 'con'.

Prove it then I gave the evidence and all you say is "nuh uh" like a con. Show what is incorrect about the link con.

 

[WCH]

Prove it then I gave the evidence and all you say is "nuh uh" like a con. Show what is incorrect about the link con.

You forgot us "cons" don't trust MSM or left-leaning sites like Snopes any longer. In turn, we believe nothing you say either.

The other article is just an apples and oranges comparison.

 

[jamesrage]

ttp://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/338633-mccain-no-american-has-seen-healthcare-bill-but-im-sure-russia-has?rnd=1497987409


Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he hasn't met an American who has seen the Senate Republicans' healthcare bill yet, though he's "sure the Russians have" gotten their hands on it, Bloomberg reported.

Asked Tuesday whether he has seen a copy of the legislation, McCain said he has not.

"Nor have I met any American that has," he added, according to Bloomberg. "I’m sure the Russians have been able to hack in and gotten most of it."

McCain is one of a number of senators growing frustrated with Senate Republican leaders' efforts to draft the healthcare overhaul measure.

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McCain: No American has seen healthcare bill, but I'm sure Russia has | TheHill

One of the few goods thing about Obama being president is that piece of **** RINO McCain wasn't president. We would probably have WWIII if that ****er won 2008.

 

[Praxas]

You forgot us "cons" don't trust MSM or left-leaning sites like Snopes any longer. In turn, we believe nothing you say either.

The other article is just an apples and oranges comparison.

No you cons don't like the truth and you can't refute what I posted. Typical con. Lying is the only thing most cons do well.

When challenged you guys run away or just post gibberish because you can't actually refute anything. Run away con it is what you are good at.

 

[WCH]

No you cons don't like the truth and you can't refute what I posted. Typical con. Lying is the only thing most cons do well.

Goodness, you're redundant.

 

[Cigar]

One of the few goods thing about Obama being president is that piece of **** RINO McCain wasn't president. We would probably have WWIII if that ****er won 2008.

Keep it down, he may hear you, he's still a Senator :2razz:

 

[Praxas]

Goodness, you're redundant.

Goodness you keep proving you can't refute anything and run away.

 

[Vern]

Like I said, up until lately, it didn't matter.

no silly, up until now it didn't exist. So again, you and yours complained when you thought dems did it. Now you are perfectly fine with it. That makes you and yours hypocrites.

BTW: the NYTimes is a Leftist rag deluxe. You must of forgotten that.

The things in the NYT are documented. Your pathetic "nuh uh" is not debate, its just flailing. And your flailing is just the desperation of a person who wants to cling to lying narratives. Again, you do yourself and America a disservice by clinging to them. If you want to debate (we both know you don't) then post what you think the facts are. Oh and back them up.

 

[Vern]

Not really. I can't type out every possibility to cover some random person's interpretations of what I am saying. If I don't state that I am breathing, am I typing this from the grave? Methinks you assume too much.

FYI - you are 0 for 1 at guessing what I am going to narrate next. (friendly banter)

first let me thank you for hitting the reply button. and let me thank you for not posting the false "dems did it too" narrative that WCH is currently cutting and running from (and bubbabgone long since cut and ran from). of course he resorted to "I don't have to believe the facts" narrative after his first one blew up. But you didn't reply to my post. I addressed your point that "sure, dems had meetings but they were mean to republicans" by pointing out that republicans not voting for Obamacare was a dishonest and partisan ploy. We know this because they told us it was their plan.

 

[WCH]

first let me thank you for hitting the reply button. and let me thank you for not posting the false "dems did it too" narrative that WCH is currently cutting and running from (and bubbabgone long since cut and ran from). of course he resorted to "I don't have to believe the facts" narrative after his first one blew up. But you didn't reply to my post. I addressed your point that "sure, dems had meetings but they were mean to republicans" by pointing out that republicans not voting for Obamacare was a dishonest and partisan ploy. We know this because they told us it was their plan.

You call it "cut and run" when in reality it's "fed up arguing with either liars or those who have terrible memories" You chose.

 

[Vern]

You call it "cut and run" when in reality it's "fed up arguing with either liars or those who have terrible memories" You chose.

WCH, you made a claim that I’ve proven false. I posted a legitimate news source to prove it. you’ve whined, flailed and deflected but you’ve provided nothing to dispute the facts. Nobody expects you to have the integrity to admit you were wrong and foolishly (and obediently) believed a lying conservative narrative for 7 years. that “conservative” simply doesn’t exist. But nobody expects you to continue your childish whining and flailing either. This is a debate forum. Please back up your claims or prove the NYT is lying about how long Obamacare was debated. Not that you care (because it's reality) but Obamacare was introduced into congress on 9/17/2009. President Obama signed it 6 months later. You cant whine away those facts either.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/3590/actions

 

[zimmer]

I know this is really cynical and mean, but I really do hope The Republicans Repeal Obamacare and take this country back to the Healthcare it had 2008. Only then, will people realize what they had and then gave away. Unfortunately, this is how low informed people learn, and how the poor and elderly are impacted first and most.

Hopefully they will realize, the people who are looking to take away their Government backed Healthcare, would never give up their own Government backed Healthcare. Because it's a great deal for them.

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[Vern]

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zimmer, I know this is pointless but I don't think giving 20 million people health insurance, improving the quality of healthcare and reducing the deficit stinks. Can you explain how that "stinks" and how increasing costs to Americans via lower subsidies and higher premiums while reducing the number of people with insurance by 23 million doesn't "stink". thanks in advance.

 

[joG]

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It would be good to start by reducing public per capita health care spending to the levels of social democracies like Germany or Holland. They are direct economic competitors and are already free riding safty and international security. We really cannot afford spending more on everything.

 

[Peter King]

ttp://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/338633-mccain-no-american-has-seen-healthcare-bill-but-im-sure-russia-has?rnd=1497987409


Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he hasn't met an American who has seen the Senate Republicans' healthcare bill yet, though he's "sure the Russians have" gotten their hands on it, Bloomberg reported.

Asked Tuesday whether he has seen a copy of the legislation, McCain said he has not.

"Nor have I met any American that has," he added, according to Bloomberg. "I’m sure the Russians have been able to hack in and gotten most of it."

McCain is one of a number of senators growing frustrated with Senate Republican leaders' efforts to draft the healthcare overhaul measure.

more...

McCain: No American has seen healthcare bill, but I'm sure Russia has | TheHill

Wow, I did not know McCain had a sense of humor.

 

[Nuber]

first let me thank you for hitting the reply button. and let me thank you for not posting the false "dems did it too" narrative that WCH is currently cutting and running from (and bubbabgone long since cut and ran from). of course he resorted to "I don't have to believe the facts" narrative after his first one blew up. But you didn't reply to my post. I addressed your point that "sure, dems had meetings but they were mean to republicans" by pointing out that republicans not voting for Obamacare was a dishonest and partisan ploy. We know this because they told us it was their plan.

The R's told us that their opposition was their plan, yet they were somehow dishonest in opposing it? I think that back in the day the R's were completely honest, opposed PPACA in every way they could while maintaining their political integrity. At the same time the D's have wanted to move the health care needle closer to single payer for decades. PPACA got them closer. The D's were just as honest and upfront about their intentions.

Right now, the R's do not have a filibuster proof Senate. The R's will have to present PPACA lite because it will have to have enough D's to prevent filibuster.

Dishonest? No. Partisan? Yes. I call it politics.

 

[Vern]

The R's told us that their opposition was their plan, yet they were somehow dishonest in opposing it? I think that back in the day the R's were completely honest, opposed PPACA in every way they could while maintaining their political integrity. At the same time the D's have wanted to move the health care needle closer to single payer for decades. PPACA got them closer. The D's were just as honest and upfront about their intentions.

Right now, the R's do not have a filibuster proof Senate. The R's will have to present PPACA lite because it will have to have enough D's to prevent filibuster.

Dishonest? No. Partisan? Yes. I call it politics.

So, in your world, President Obama compromising on the republican plan of mandates is a secret plan to move to single payer and republicans opposing mandates after supporting them for 20 years is integrity. There's nothing to say if you refuse to accept reality.