McCabe recommended for prosecution. Will he flip?

[Airyaman]

Your assertions mean nothing. Its opinion, meaning that Mueller stated that no conspiracy exist between the Trump campaign and the Russians, meaning your assertions were wrong.

I think you are confused. You made an assertion about me. That is why I said "I'm sure you can link to all of my posts that support this assertion."

 

[Airyaman]

This letter from McCabe's lawyers to Liu is based on rumors presented by the media.

Let me know when those rumors are confirmed as fact.

Did you miss the line where it states "At a minimum, based on our discussion with Mr. Cooney and Ms. Gaston this afternoon, it is clear that no indictment has been returned".

Those are the lawyers from the US Attorney's office.

 

[Craig234]

McCabe allegedly lied to investigators about leaks he made concerning the Obama DOJ wanting him to obstruct justice.
It's no worse than what Flynn did.

McCabe didn't do anything remotely close to what Flynn did.

Whether McCabe even misled about the release of information is disputed - but the release of information was releasing the truth to counter lies. Those trump lies are the root of the issue.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Did you miss the line where it states "At a minimum, based on our discussion with Mr. Cooney and Ms. Gaston this afternoon, it is clear that no indictment has been returned".

Those are the lawyers from the US Attorney's office.

If the grand jury failed to return an indictment, then the case against McCabe is weak.

 

[lurchadams]

Is this the beginning of the end for the Obama crew? Will McCabe be put in solitary like Manafort in an effort to squeeze him? Will Brennan, Clapper, Comey and the rest of the Clinton/DNC inspired collusion crew be looking over their shoulders? Who will cut a deal? Somewhere Martha Stewart and General Flynn are smiling.

Manfort was put in solitary for witness tampering.

 

[Lutherf]

McCabe didn't do what Flynn did. McCabe wasn't a foreign agent lying about conversations with the Russian ambassador to investigators. And then committing witness tampering and entering a phony cooperation agreement where he was just collecting information on the investigation to feel to trump to help him not get caught for his crimes.

If Felicity Huffman gets 2 weeks for faking her kid's college application then McCabe deserves at least a month for lying to the FBI.

 

[Athanasius68]

McCabe didn't do anything remotely close to what Flynn did.

Whether McCabe even misled about the release of information is disputed - but the release of information was releasing the truth to counter lies. Those trump lies are the root of the issue.

The IG report said otherwise.

The root of the problem was the Obama DOJ leaning on Mr. McCabe for the FBI to stop an investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
McCabe leaked that they did this, then lied about the leak (and blamed other FBI offices for the leak).

 

[Mycroft]

Did you miss the line where it states "At a minimum, based on our discussion with Mr. Cooney and Ms. Gaston this afternoon, it is clear that no indictment has been returned".

Those are the lawyers from the US Attorney's office.

"We have no independent knowledge of whether the reporting is accurate but for present purposes we assume that the grand jury may have voted a no true bill." "We do not know the specific basis for the rumors..."

That means that they are guessing...plain and simple...based on baseless rumors. That means they don't know for a fact that the grand jury actually declined to vote an indictment.

Like I said...let me know when those rumors are confirmed as fact.

 

[Craig234]

The IG report said otherwise.

The root of the problem was the Obama DOJ leaning on Mr. McCabe for the FBI to stop an investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
McCabe leaked that they did this, then lied about the leak (and blamed other FBI offices for the leak).

Yes, and the IG report is disputed as pressured by trump. No, the root of the problem were trump lies that McCabe had prevented the Clinton investigation because he was being a partisan Democrat, and he leaked facts that he had done the opposite to counter the trump lies, protecting both his and the FBI's reputation from the trump lies.

 

[Craig234]

If Felicity Huffman gets 2 weeks for faking her kid's college application then McCabe deserves at least a month for lying to the FBI.

It's disputed whether he lied - but by your rule, trump deserves a life sentence for his lies.

 

[Athanasius68]

Yes, and the IG report is disputed as pressured by trump. No, the root of the problem were trump lies that McCabe had prevented the Clinton investigation because he was being a partisan Democrat, and he leaked facts that he had done the opposite to counter the trump lies, protecting both his and the FBI's reputation from the trump lies.

The leaks occurred prior to the election.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Is this the beginning of the end for the Obama crew? Will McCabe be put in solitary like Manafort in an effort to squeeze him? Will Brennan, Clapper, Comey and the rest of the Clinton/DNC inspired collusion crew be looking over their shoulders? Who will cut a deal? Somewhere Martha Stewart and General Flynn are smiling.

I think your cart is in front of your horse. Let's see if he's actually prosecuted, or not; I'm betting not.

 

[Craig234]

The leaks occurred prior to the election.

I need to make a correction. McCabe was being attacked by some as going soft on the Clinton investigation, but as far as I can tell, it wasn't by trump partisans, but by some FBI investigators in an internal dispute. I haven't been able to find good records on who all made the attacks.

Here's how the NY Times summarized it:

Mr. McCabe authorized an F.B.I. spokesman and lawyer to speak to The Journal to rebut suggestions that he had put the brakes on the investigation. These types of interactions between journalists and government officials — known as “background calls” — are common in all federal agencies and administrations as officials try to correct inaccuracies or provide details and nuance before reporters publish information.

It just refers to 'suggestions', without details on who made them.

 

[RAMOSS]

My guess is that he has been HIGHLY disillusioned with DC politics and maybe he did want to be accepted at one point but I really suspect that now he just wants to get a deal done with China. My guess is that at this point he'd like nothing more than to get something done in spite of the establishment rather than with their help.

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Chuck and Nancy show around immigration issues told him all he ever needed to know about how the establishment works.

I think you are giving Trump all too much credit. He is used to YES men, and can't handle disagreement.

 

[Cardinal]

Is this the beginning of the end for the Obama crew? Will McCabe be put in solitary like Manafort in an effort to squeeze him? Will Brennan, Clapper, Comey and the rest of the Clinton/DNC inspired collusion crew be looking over their shoulders? Who will cut a deal? Somewhere Martha Stewart and General Flynn are smiling.

 

[nitroexpress]

Has a grand jury been empaneled? If not then the recommendation is worthless.

Like I keep saying, the establishment does not eat itself and McCabe, as corrupt as he is, has a key to the executive washroom. The ONLY person that will get burned by the establishment is Trump and that's because he's not one of them and they don't want him or his family to become one of them.

McCabe said he told Comey everything. Comey said it was a lie and he didn't know squat. Now there is a divide waiting to be exploited.

 

[nitroexpress]

The case against McCabe is already weak and gets a whole lot weaker when his defense lawyer will be able to introduce the over fifty tweets Trump has made calling for the head of McCabe in political revenge.

Stewart and Flynn lie once and get nailed. McCain is on record as lying 3 times. Surely he will be held accountable? In the end, a whole lot of Dems heads should be rolling.

 

[nitroexpress]

Really? I'm sure you can link to all of my posts that support this assertion.
Grand Jury already declined to indict. Next.

"there could be a dozen or more good explanations for why there has been no public announcement of a McCabe indictment. The other investigations could be complicating things. It could be that the Washington grand jury’s investigation is broader in scope than we’ve been led to believe. It could be something as simple as the availability of necessary witnesses, the availability of enough grand jurors to constitute a quorum, or the happenstance that the case is taking more time to present than the defense lawyers and media think it should".

McCabe Grand Jury Indictment: Making Sense of the Rumors | National Review

 

[Lutherf]

McCabe said he told Comey everything. Comey said it was a lie and he didn't know squat. Now there is a divide waiting to be exploited.

I have very little confidence in the GOP getting anything done. They just aren't cut out for knock down, drag out politics.

The Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Clinton, and Rice crew have made it clear that the investigation into Trump was a counter-intelligence operation rather than a criminal espionage investigation and, under that rule book , can do pretty much anything they want to ass long as there is some minimal predicate. Basically someone would have to prove that there was no basis for the investigation because the "evidence" had either been manufactured from whole cloth or was so thin that no reasonable person would bother to look at it. Odds are that even if everybody and their uncle knew that the "evidence" was crap it would still stand a legal test for presenting a valid predicate for a CI investigation.

That's the bad news.

The worse news is that in failing to really fight this travesty the GOP has allowed a new precedent to be established for the way a presidential candidate of one party can be abused investigated by the other party. Political shenanigans like this will continue to get worse until the people choose to simply accept whatever DC tells them.

 

[iguanaman]

Trump has never belonged or felt he belonged and it eats him up, imo.

Because decent people are not inclined to associate with criminals or those that do. Trump has a long history of criminal associations.

From the public record and published accounts like that one, it’s possible to assemble a clear picture of what we do know. The picture shows that Trump’s career has benefited from a decades-long and largely successful effort to limit and deflect law enforcement investigations into his dealings with top mobsters, organized crime associates, labor fixers, corrupt union leaders, con artists and even a one-time drug trafficker whom Trump retained as the head of his personal helicopter service.

Just What Were Donald Trump's Ties to the Mob? - POLITICO Magazine

 

[haymarket]

Stewart and Flynn lie once and get nailed. McCain is on record as lying 3 times. Surely he will be held accountable? In the end, a whole lot of Dems heads should be rolling.

Your phony right wing whataboutism is pretty pathetic as any sort of excuse.

 

[iguanaman]

I have very little confidence in the GOP getting anything done. They just aren't cut out for knock down, drag out politics.

The Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Clinton, and Rice crew have made it clear that the investigation into Trump was a counter-intelligence operation rather than a criminal espionage investigation and, under that rule book , can do pretty much anything they want to ass long as there is some minimal predicate. Basically someone would have to prove that there was no basis for the investigation because the "evidence" had either been manufactured from whole cloth or was so thin that no reasonable person would bother to look at it. Odds are that even if everybody and their uncle knew that the "evidence" was crap it would still stand a legal test for presenting a valid predicate for a CI investigation.

That's the bad news.

The worse news is that in failing to really fight this travesty the GOP has allowed a new precedent to be established for the way a presidential candidate of one party can be abused investigated by the other party. Political shenanigans like this will continue to get worse until the people choose to simply accept whatever DC tells them.

So you did not read the Mueller report......

 

[iguanaman]

McCabe said he told Comey everything. Comey said it was a lie and he didn't know squat. Now there is a divide waiting to be exploited.

LOL Yes get Comey as a witness for Trump's witchhunt. :lamo

 

[Kurmugeon]

Is this the beginning of the end for the Obama crew? Will McCabe be put in solitary like Manafort in an effort to squeeze him? Will Brennan, Clapper, Comey and the rest of the Clinton/DNC inspired collusion crew be looking over their shoulders? Who will cut a deal? Somewhere Martha Stewart and General Flynn are smiling.

He will be murdered, just like Jeffry Epstien.

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[Athanasius68]

I just do not see a strong case there. And the revenge prosecution as ordered by Trump simply is the icing on the cake for McCabe. I see this ending up badly for those who want McCabes head on the pick outside the castle wall.

McCabe already said he did it.
He says he made innocent mistakes.