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It think this all boils down, we can debate all the words, this boils down in a choice, a fundamental choice. The choice is this. The choice is do you take $1 trillion and help the poor, and vulnerable, and working class in the country in their health care, subsidized by the federal government. or do you take the $1 trillion and return it to basically the wealthy of the country? That's the really the fundamental choice there.

'This Week' Transcript 6-25-17: Kellyanne Conway, Sen. Chuck Schumer, Sen. Susan Collins, and Sen. Rand Paul - ABC News



It ain't anymore complicated than that. :2wave:
 
Cigar said:
It think this all boils down, we can debate all the words, this boils down in a choice, a fundamental choice. The choice is this. The choice is do you take $1 trillion and help the poor, and vulnerable, and working class in the country in their health care, subsidized by the federal government. or do you take the $1 trillion and return it to basically the wealthy of the country? That's the really the fundamental choice there.

'This Week' Transcript 6-25-17: Kellyanne Conway, Sen. Chuck Schumer, Sen. Susan Collins, and Sen. Rand Paul - ABC News



It ain't anymore complicated than that. :2wave:
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Why stop at $1 trillion? why not 2 trillion or 3 trillion?
 
Crovax said:
Why stop at $1 trillion? why not 2 trillion or 3 trillion?
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Well, shoot. If the goal is to "help the poor and vulnerable" why would we waste the money on well exams and other crap most people don't need when we could be buying food and saving starving children in Africa?
 
Taylor said:
Well, shoot. If the goal is to "help the poor and vulnerable" why would we waste the money on well exams and other crap most people don't need when we could be buying food and saving starving children in Africa?
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Because the first world is still economically colonizing Africa and looting natural resources.
 
That's a false choice and the language he uses shows his bias. Healthcare is not subsidized by the government -- it is subsidized by the taxpayers. It is not returning money to the wealthy, it is returning money to the people that actually pay taxes.

It is more non-biased to say "It is a fundamental choice between continuing to force tax paying citizens to subsidize healthcare for those who cannot or will not pay for it themselves and returning that money back to the taxpayers."

To claim it is only going to the wealthy is to claim only the wealthy pay taxes. And to imply it is subsidized by the government implies the government actually generates its own income and doesn't take that from tax paying citizens.
 
Strange way to think about returning ill-gotten gains back to those you took them from.
 
JayDubya said:
Strange way to think about returning ill-gotten gains back to those you took them from.
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Well it's the "I got mine, get your's" type of mentality.

I guess we can also take the Muhammad Ali way of saying things; "They ain't my enemy, they're your enemy' you go fight them" ;)
 
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