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Mass Shootings in "Gun Free" Nations

TurtleDude said:
If I insulted people I'd be sanctioned. calling your stupid posts stupid posts is not an insult. and where have I talked about a "marxist conspiracy"

you ever going to even attempt to prove your idiotic claims like "HUGE SUCCESS"

you've already pissed back on your "just a form" lie
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My god you have railed on and on that gun control is a left wing Marxist conspiracy. It gives us all a good laugh but it derails the debate....which is your goal
 
TurtleDude said:
Its amazing how anti gun advocates and those who apologize for them, always read rights or Heller from the RESTRICTIONS ARE MOST Important perspective. its disgusting
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More 'gun' rubber rants that just spew out BS, a rabid sort of fling crap and ignore the facts.

FACT- anyone who dares agree with ANY sort of screening or restriction isn't a 'true' whatever the 'noble' BS title...

Fact- most 'gun' rubbers want THEIR rights but not so concerned about others Libertarian- it's all about me.... :roll:

FACT- the rabid right politicians rant about the 'cherished' 2nd A but damn sure don't trust those they inflame with all that 'gun' wavin' talk

FACT- 'gun' rubbers twist any statement agreeing with insuring basic 2nd A rights (Heller) in an attempt to keep their fear alive- anyone not for no restrictions is a 'anti-'gun' advocate...
 
notquiteright said:
More 'gun' rubber rants that just spew out BS, a rabid sort of fling crap and ignore the facts.

FACT- anyone who dares agree with ANY sort of screening or restriction isn't a 'true' whatever the 'noble' BS title...

Fact- most 'gun' rubbers want THEIR rights but not so concerned about others Libertarian- it's all about me.... :roll:

FACT- the rabid right politicians rant about the 'cherished' 2nd A but damn sure don't trust those they inflame with all that 'gun' wavin' talk

FACT- 'gun' rubbers twist any statement agreeing with insuring basic 2nd A rights (Heller) in an attempt to keep their fear alive- anyone not for no restrictions is a 'anti-'gun' advocate...
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more nonsense. when you all come up with ADDITIONAL laws that actually will impede criminals without burdening honest people let us know
 
TurtleDude said:
more nonsense. when you all come up with ADDITIONAL laws that actually will impede criminals without burdening honest people let us know
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More nonsense- when the 'gun' rubbers allow the ATF to do their duty without the rabid right restrictive laws let me know. When the 'gun' runners face actual rapid arrest, when FFL holders are held accountable for their sales, records and are inspected more than once every 7 years and those out of compliance face more frequent visits let me know.

Fact is most of the laws the rabid 'gun' rubbers screech about don't infringe on any citizen's ability to defend the home or lives. Not having a bump stock, 30 round mag, select fire weapon doesn't endanger the home owner's ability to protect his... :peace
 
LowDown said:
Washington Post:



As limitation of civil and constitutional rights and violence in the practice of politics becomes more popular with the left, and as we hear calls for socialism and communism coming from young-minds-full-of-mush millenials, it is important to remember that all through the 20th century disarming citizens was a precursor to mass murder of those citizens. Yes, it can happen here, and with every passing day it is easier and easier to see that.

Which group do you trust more? Those who want to disarm you, or those that want you to be able to defend yourself?
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Than you for posting this thread. It is very difficult to believe. I’ve never seen a stat like this...
 
notquiteright said:
More nonsense- when the 'gun' rubbers allow the ATF to do their duty without the rabid right restrictive laws let me know. When the 'gun' runners face actual rapid arrest, when FFL holders are held accountable for their sales, records and are inspected more than once every 7 years and those out of compliance face more frequent visits let me know.

Fact is most of the laws the rabid 'gun' rubbers screech about don't infringe on any citizen's ability to defend the home or lives. Not having a bump stock, 30 round mag, select fire weapon doesn't endanger the home owner's ability to protect his... :peace
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and then it will be you don't need a 15 round mag or a semi auto rifle

then a ten round magazine and a semi auto shotgun

and then a semi auto pistol

and then a revolver.

that is where its going

a government that has the power to ban the stuff you want banned has the power to ban every gun
 
vegas giants said:
Its a false choice. You can have gun control and still own a gun. Canada does it every day
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You can not defend yourself or your property with firearms. Even if someone is using a gun against you. The gun control in American is offered up by a group of people who don't know what the hell they are talking about. It is only based on doing "something" regardless of the out come, as well as the fact that they don't trust you with a certain style of firearm.
 
JLee1977 said:
You can not defend yourself or your property with firearms. Even if someone is using a gun against you. The gun control in American is offered up by a group of people who don't know what the hell they are talking about. It is only based on doing "something" regardless of the out come, as well as the fact that they don't trust you with a certain style of firearm.
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You can't defend yourself with a firearm? That is nonsense
 
LowDown said:
Washington Post:



As limitation of civil and constitutional rights and violence in the practice of politics becomes more popular with the left, and as we hear calls for socialism and communism coming from young-minds-full-of-mush millenials, it is important to remember that all through the 20th century disarming citizens was a precursor to mass murder of those citizens. Yes, it can happen here, and with every passing day it is easier and easier to see that.

Which group do you trust more? Those who want to disarm you, or those that want you to be able to defend yourself?
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I trust most the group who don't crave guns. I'm much less likely to be shot and killed being outwith such a group as the US example so dramatically illustrates
 
vegas giants said:
Prove it.
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I have relatives who live in Canada. Every case were a person used a firearm to defend themselves, the victim was charged for illegal use of a deadly weapon. You can try to disprove it if you wish!
 
JLee1977 said:
I have relatives who live in Canada. Every case were a person used a firearm to defend themselves, the victim was charged for illegal use of a deadly weapon. You can try to disprove it if you wish!
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Uh....no. That is not how this works. Cite real evidence. Or else I will just claim I have relatives in Canada who say you are nuts. LOL
 
vegas giants said:
Uh....no. That is not how this works. Cite real evidence. Or else I will just claim I have relatives in Canada who say you are nuts. LOL
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Says the guy that states "gun laws in Canada works" without showing an direct cause and affect.
 
Maccabee said:
Says the guy that states "gun laws in Canada works" without showing an direct cause and affect.
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he claims that the Canadian gun registry is a HUGE SUCCESS even though the guns they NO LONGER register are almost never used in crimes but the ones they TRIED to register are. When pressed to prove his idiotic claim (HUGE SUCCESS) his only answer is that "the people want it"
 
TurtleDude said:
he claims that the Canadian gun registry is a HUGE SUCCESS even though the guns they NO LONGER register are almost never used in crimes but the ones they TRIED to register are. When pressed to prove his idiotic claim (HUGE SUCCESS) his only answer is that "the people want it"
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They work great. God I wish we had their per capita gun deaths numbers
 
vegas giants said:
They work great. God I wish we had their per capita gun deaths numbers
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another stupid lie. their gun violence rates did not diminish due to the stupid registry
 
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