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Mark my words, trump's support will evaporate and shock most when it does

Mr Person said:
I suppose he could also make a sex tape with Hillary Clinton. That'd do the trick.









(All: I sincerely apologize for polluting your minds with that).
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No. The stooges would just say Hillary is a whore, and Trump got some.
 
Fletch said:
Thats odd, because the most poorly educated live in inner cities like Baltimore where 1/3 of their public schools have zero students proficient in math. Zero. Yet they all vote for democrats. So I guess in truth, it is you libs that love the poorly educated since it is you libs who run the education systems that are failing them.
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But the socialist Dem/Libs are brilliant! The list is long but a few at the top: Pelosi, Biden, Sanders, Ocasio, Maxine Waters, Rashida Tlaib,
 
Perotista said:
Today, Trump does have the support of most Republicans. Will that support evaporate once he leaves office, sure it will. That happens to all former presidents.
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Sometimes, you get responses that are just tedious from people who do not understand the post. This is one. I did not quote most, but obviously - to most - I'm not talking about the typical evaporation of support presidents see.

Very favorable indicates strong support, somewhat favorable is wishy washy as is somewhat unfavorable. Why in the beginning was half of the Republican Party leery of Trump where as today most Republicans are steadfastly behind Trump? I think the reason is the Democrats reaction to Trump.
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The phrase "a mile wide and an inch deep" means nothing to you. I might as well have posted in Latin for all you understood it. Ironically, you're unwittingly right when you point at Democrats' response to trump as a factor. Which is a reason WHY the support is shallow, as it's not based on something more substantive about trump; you're making my point. But you get it wrong when you suggest Democrats' reaction is wrong.
 
MorrisDay said:
But the socialist Dem/Libs are brilliant! The list is long but a few at the top: Pelosi, Biden, Sanders, Ocasio, Maxine Waters, Rashida Tlaib,
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Bernie Sanders has a lot more to offer the country than every Republican in Congress combined.
 
Jesse Booth said:
The man has done more in three years to further gun control than Obama did in 8, and he's growing the deficit at record rates. He would, in fact, have to get caught calling his retard supporters retards to lose their support at this point.
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Trump banned bump stocks. His singular contribution to gun control.

Trump wouldn’t lose a single supporter if a recording of him calling them every name in the book surfaced. He’d just lie, saying it was a con put on by the MSM and anti American leftists.
 
Cardinal said:
Knock on the doors of known Democrats leading up to the election so that they vote. That's the contribution you can make that'll actually make a difference. Go to Swing Left and enroll.
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Go away and knock on doors yourself instead of the useless post above.
 
Craig234 said:
Go away and knock on doors yourself instead of the useless post above.
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Knocking on doors and getting people out to vote is demonstrably the most effective way to make a difference.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
- Make education more accessible (includes both STEM, vocational) - Trump owns this issue
- Make healthcare more accessible Riiiiighhht!
- Make alternative energy more competitive - Ho hum
- Reform immigration - Trump owns this issue
- Restore dignity and statesmanship to the Oval Office - I give you one
- Reconcile racial and ethnic tensions - Trump owns this issue
- Restore environmental protections - Trump owns this issue
- Rebuild infrastructure - Trump owns this issue
- Reduce the despair quotient - Trump owns this issue
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You show more insight than the candidates. Still, looking at your list, Trump has filched several of the issues. For example, there are inroads in K-12 school choice, The EPA is finally responding to inquiries and requests, infrastructure is something Nancy Pelosi will not even discuss. Funny that you don't mention the economy and jobs, two traditional Democrat banners.

The last one is choice. Of Trump's many successes, restoring hope is the biggest. It's on the hat--Make America Great Again. Following eight years of Barack Obama apologizing for our success and telling us that the jobs were not coming back, the turn around is massive.

I could not have made a better case for Trump. Bravo.
 
Cardinal said:
Knocking on doors and getting people out to vote is demonstrably the most effective way to make a difference.
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Not your posting that post? Huh.
 
Craig234 said:
Not your posting that post? Huh.
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I'm 100% aware that posting on an anonymous debate forum effects no positive change. That's why when I am in interested in creating real positive outcomes, I do the door-to-door thing to get like-minded people out to vote.
 
Craig234 said:
trump has support that's 'a mile wide but not deep' from his cult. All they see now are the dazzling lights of his cons, but at some point, just watch.

I don't know when that will be. There was a movie, "A face in the crowd", tarring Andy Griffith, when he played a very trump-like character who became a very powerful voice in American politics. He just mowed down political opponents.

Someone close to him saw the danger he posed, and recorded him talking about his supporters as idiots, and aired it. His fame and power were ended immediately. That's one way.

It could be when trump does something his base strongly disapproves of - or simply when he leaves office and Republican politicians turn on him. It's hard to say what the event will be.

But at some point, a lot of people are going to come out of the cult, wonder what they had been thinking, and start saying they never much liked him anyway.

They can't see it now, but they will. In 1972, Nixon was re-elected winning 49 states. Less than two years later he had support in the 20 percent's, and was the most reviled president in history. And he had decades of history with America as a leading politician. He had actual accomplishments, and a lot less cynical country (until his crimes made them more cynical).

There's no 'there there' to trump's support. It's not really about him. It's a sugar high, it's hate and resentment and 'haha screw you establishment you don't like trump but we forced him on you', that's intense for his followers but has no solidity, no substance, nothing to make it last.

His power comes from the fear of the rest of his party's politicians saying 'the Emperor has great clothes', but that will evaporate the first chance that comes along. Some have already abandoned him, but the big rush will be at some key event. I won't mention other leaders who went from personality cults to despised, beyond a few examples, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, whose deeds have almost nothing to do with trump.

But their maniacal personality cults went far further than trump can dream - yet collapsed overnight. See the name of the city of 'Stalingrad' for just one example. And they, too, had much more substance than empty suit trump - Stalin winning WWII, Mao winning a revolution in China, etc. They had substance (and great evil deeds) trump does not. He's OBADA - One big ass distraction, America.

Even his opponents will go through some of the same experience.

They'll come to realize he wasn't the real issue, and they were too worked up over him instead of the real issues. trump would like to be a great change agent like a Mao or a Stalin or a you know who, and if he could, this would be a different situation, but he can't and won't. He's just a con man who isn't doing anything but trolling and reaching new lows of incompetence for the office he has. He'll be seen like Sarah Palin.
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With or without Trump, for the Bible to remain true the devil's crowd will have to get stronger and stronger politically until the antichrist shows up declaring himself to be god. I think America will go down that deluded road before the end.
 
Cardinal said:
I'm 100% aware that posting on an anonymous debate forum effects no positive change. That's why when I am in interested in creating real positive outcomes, I do the door-to-door thing to get like-minded people out to vote.
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Neat trick, to post while knocking.
 
bearpoker said:
W has already taken the male Sarah Palin slot. We've even sort of forgiven him for destabilizing the Middle East because, hay, he's a nice man, and we really blame Cheney anyway. Me too. It's all because next to Trump, W looks like a saint.

Trump won't get to be Palin, but when he's out of office, either by losing the election or at the end of his second term, he will become a pariah. Craig's right about that. Suddenly no one will have really liked him anyway. The trouble is that we'll all be stuck with the fallout, just like the shareholders that Trump stuck with his failed casinos.
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Ohhhhhhhh NO, if I have anything to say about it Trump hardcore supporters aren't going to get away with pretending they didn't really like him, at least not here.
I can understand people who just voted for him because they didn't like Hillz, or because they're committed Republicans, or because they thought they'd give him a fair shot, or because they didn't realize the choice they were making...I can understand a LOT.

What I can't and won't "understand" are the ones who, after his crooked ways are clearly indicated, continue to double down on everything he says and does regardless. Trump's Star Apologists will not be weaseling their way out of that.
 
Jesse Booth said:
The man has done more in three years to further gun control than Obama did in 8, and he's growing the deficit at record rates. He would, in fact, have to get caught calling his retard supporters retards to lose their support at this point.
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And even then they'd pretend they didn't hear. he's not losing his base. he can't get Dems or new voters, and may lose moderate Republicans and swing voters, but he will not lose his hard core. That bottoms out at around 30% of the electorate and they'll stand by him no matter what.

They already have
 
Jay59 said:
Gee. An extreme left wing group thinks that businesses run the EPA. Shocker. There is no evidence and no specifics.

Have you got anything believable?
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Columbia University is extreme left wing?
Okay Jay, if you say so.
 
Craig234 said:
trump has support that's 'a mile wide but not deep' from his cult. All they see now are the dazzling lights of his cons, but at some point, just watch.

I don't know when that will be. There was a movie, "A face in the crowd", tarring Andy Griffith, when he played a very trump-like character who became a very powerful voice in American politics. He just mowed down political opponents.

Someone close to him saw the danger he posed, and recorded him talking about his supporters as idiots, and aired it. His fame and power were ended immediately. That's one way.

It could be when trump does something his base strongly disapproves of - or simply when he leaves office and Republican politicians turn on him. It's hard to say what the event will be.

But at some point, a lot of people are going to come out of the cult, wonder what they had been thinking, and start saying they never much liked him anyway.

They can't see it now, but they will. In 1972, Nixon was re-elected winning 49 states. Less than two years later he had support in the 20 percent's, and was the most reviled president in history. And he had decades of history with America as a leading politician. He had actual accomplishments, and a lot less cynical country (until his crimes made them more cynical).

There's no 'there there' to trump's support. It's not really about him. It's a sugar high, it's hate and resentment and 'haha screw you establishment you don't like trump but we forced him on you', that's intense for his followers but has no solidity, no substance, nothing to make it last.

His power comes from the fear of the rest of his party's politicians saying 'the Emperor has great clothes', but that will evaporate the first chance that comes along. Some have already abandoned him, but the big rush will be at some key event. I won't mention other leaders who went from personality cults to despised, beyond a few examples, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, whose deeds have almost nothing to do with trump.

But their maniacal personality cults went far further than trump can dream - yet collapsed overnight. See the name of the city of 'Stalingrad' for just one example. And they, too, had much more substance than empty suit trump - Stalin winning WWII, Mao winning a revolution in China, etc. They had substance (and great evil deeds) trump does not. He's OBADA - One big ass distraction, America.

Even his opponents will go through some of the same experience.

They'll come to realize he wasn't the real issue, and they were too worked up over him instead of the real issues. trump would like to be a great change agent like a Mao or a Stalin or a you know who, and if he could, this would be a different situation, but he can't and won't. He's just a con man who isn't doing anything but trolling and reaching new lows of incompetence for the office he has. He'll be seen like Sarah Palin.
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His support will fade just as soon as the left proves the Collusion/Obstruction scandal. Of course if they don't he will end up with more votes. Maybe the left needs something else to scream. Yeah, racism. That's the ticket.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Columbia University is extreme left wing? Okay Jay, if you say so.
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Most Universities are quite liberal. Columbia even more than most.

In any event, this is not a scholarly paper. It's an opinion piece about the new Director of EPA. Use of phrases like climate-denier shreds any possibility of impartiality. It's an attack piece.
 
uptower said:
And even then they'd pretend they didn't hear. he's not losing his base. he can't get Dems or new voters, and may lose moderate Republicans and swing voters, but he will not lose his hard core. That bottoms out at around 30% of the electorate and they'll stand by him no matter what.
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It bottoms out about 42%. He can and has gotten new voters.
Don’t Assume Trump’s Approval Rating Can’t Climb Higher. It Already Has. - The New York Times

Most of the country does not see the same Donald J Trump that you. They see a President that stands up for American interests abroad and delivered a sound economy and jobs domestically. It's called looking past the superficial.
 
Jay59 said:
It bottoms out about 42%. He can and has gotten new voters.
Don’t Assume Trump’s Approval Rating Can’t Climb Higher. It Already Has. - The New York Times

Most of the country does not see the same Donald J Trump that you. They see a President that stands up for American interests abroad and delivered a sound economy and jobs domestically. It's called looking past the superficial.
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'Most' of the country is not 42%. And that number is just polling of 'likely' voters. In real terms he has a much lower support. However you can take comfort in the fact a lot of them may not vote (or may be suppressed), so in an election he gets a higher number than his real base. But he doesn't get any more votes in real numbers than he did last time, when he lost by 3 million in the popular vote. Expect a wider spread this time - at least 5 million - whether he manages to scrape together a win in the EC or not.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Shock humor loses its effectiveness if it is overused to the point that the act is not shocking anymore.

Trump has so lowered the bar that it seems nothing is offensive now. Shouldn’t the media just make every outrageous act a number and move on.
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Trump has convinced his idiot base that being an immoral and abusive prick is perfectly acceptable. After all, if it's ok for someone in such an exalted position to behave like that, it must be a fine example to follow.
 
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