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Marci Rubio sanctions UN special rapporteur critical of Israel - The CIA must be abolished

So what? Great Britain also consists of Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and England. Bottom line; Israel has never in its history since 1948 ever accepted Palestine's right of self-determination. The 1977 Likud Party Charter makes it clear; quote, "Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty".


The aim from day one was that of Eretz Israel (Greater Israel), and as long as the Zionist, ultra-nationalist far-right leads Israel it will remain the case.
Great Britain does not consist of Northern Ireland.
 
Your inability to admit a simple mistake is pathological:

Great Britain versus the United Kingdom
It's the same place; irrespective of nomenclature. You'll get something right one day.

 
It's the same place; irrespective of nomenclature. You'll get something right one day.

Pathological.
 
Like your ignorance of political geography?
Lashing out because you couldn't admit that Great Britain and the United Kingdom is not the same place.

You probably also think that Gibraltar, the Falklands, etc. are part of Great Britain because your stubbornness, like your geography, knows no boundaries.
Pathological.
 
Remind us, how long has Gaza been under illegal occupation by Israel? You can also remind us when Palestine's right to armed resistance against belligerent occupation, under international law, was rescinded. Given some of the more ignorant posts here one could assume it was Palestine occupying Israel, not the reverse.
Does Ukraine have the legal right to armed resistance against Russia's occupation? If 'yes' then under international law Palestine enjoys that same right.
Ukraine is an established sovereign nation. Palestine is not.
Palestine is a territory occupy the land of Israel.
The U.N. with so many Muslim countries consistently voting against Israel, does not have the power to keep Israel from occupying more territory on the West Bank.
Under Trump, Israel will continue to be supported by America because Israel is too important a democracy in that region to allow such a tiny territory to continue to threaten Israel's existence.
 
Ukraine is an established sovereign nation. Palestine is not.
Palestine is a territory occupy the land of Israel.
The U.N. with so many Muslim countries consistently voting against Israel, does not have the power to keep Israel from occupying more territory on the West Bank.
Under Trump, Israel will continue to be supported by America because Israel is too important a democracy in that region to allow such a tiny territory to continue to threaten Israel's existence.
Palestine has been awarded permanent observer observer status at the UN, and her sovereignty has been recognised by a majority (147/193), of UN member states, mostly non-Muslim. Israel is nothing like a democracy-when a significant proportion of her population is treated as the South African government treated her black people; in other words apartheid. Arabs do not enjoy the same rights as other Israeli citizens, despite claims that they do-by Israel, naturally.

 
Lashing out because you couldn't admit that Great Britain and the United Kingdom is not the same place.

You probably also think that Gibraltar, the Falklands, etc. are part of Great Britain because your stubbornness, like your geography, knows no boundaries.
Pathological.
I live here mate, you don't. The Falklands are a British Overseas Territory; we fought a war in 1982 to oust Argentinian invaders, and won. Gibraltar is also a British Overseas Territory, much like distant Hawaii (which you stole), is a US state, despite it being thousands of miles from the US mainland. Now, go away and do something useful.

 
I live here mate, you don't. The Falklands are a British Overseas Territory; we fought a war in 1982 to oust Argentinian invaders, and won. Gibraltar is also a British Overseas Territory, much like distant Hawaii (which you stole), is a US state, despite it being thousands of miles from the US mainland. Now, go away and do something useful.

Continued deflection from your inability to admit your mistake. Great Britain is not the same as the United Kingdom. You are wrong no matter where you claim to live. Lies about little things, for no good reason. Pathological.
 
I think the Mark Rubio's of the world should be put on trial for treason soon. What explanation/excuse do they have for their apparent willingness to limit Americans and their constitutional freedoms on behalf of another state/nation? THats ... the definition of treason.

I would just like for an American, that supports continuing to arm and support Israel, to simply explain to me why?

Why? Israel has had 2.5 years, with almost NO restrictions, and an practically unlimited supply of support/weaponry from the U.S. to get whatever job it is that its trying to get done -- done. nd its failed, miserably. Why would you continue pouring money into what is in all practicality, a failed venture.Why is the war STILL going on? Specifically, WTF arent OUR congressmen who are forking over OUR money to Israel, ASKING THIS QUESTION 24/7 until Israel gives a suitable response?

There are many REAL explanations that could be given, if Americans actually forced a serious response. You can pick from the following:
1) Israel's stated goals -- of returning the hostages and completely defeating Hamas -- are not easily achieved by military pressure alone. IMO this is the most realistic answer. Completely defeating an insurgency, once one has risen, is VERY difficult. Americans would know, from the mistakes made in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this is the reason, than they should let Israel learn the lesson by funding a forever war by itself. But right now, they have no reason to stop this forever, cause theyre not funding it alone, so what do they care if American tax dollars get wasted?

2) Israel's stated goals are not its actual goals. Its actual goals are more akin to ethnic cleansing, under threat of genocide, and the total destruction of Gaza so that Israel may refashion Gaza for its own purposes. Unfortunately, there is a lot of credence to this idea because several Israeli politician who are part of the current government have stated openly that this should be Israel's goal. In which case, it is absolutely insane for Americans to contnue provide money for this venture. Its an expensive one, and it is in now way America's interest.

3) Israel is like a drug addicted to American money and weapons, and we keep enabling them. And why do we keep enabling them? Well, the answers, if you really wanna be gut-wrenchingly honest, are this: we have a number of people who hold an apocalyptic/evangelical view, and the gathering of Jews into Israel so that they can be destroyed or forced to convert. We also have a number of people who are no religious, but do not like Jews and are simply really anti-semitic, and see Israel as potential for a tidier solution than what Hitler did -- and gives America plausible deniability. Stick them in the middle East, let them slowly destroy their relationships with neighboring countries and Arabs by encouraging their worst instincts. Eventually, allow enough anger/hatred to build up against Israel, and then pull out support in a crucial momemnt, and jsut let the Arabs do the dirty job -- then blame the Arabs for being barbaric. Voila, hands washed free. Its a sickening but very possible explanation.
 
Northern half of Gaza would make more sense.
I said when they fixed them across that riverbed to southern gaza that they were never going to be allowed to return.

Funny how easy it is to see what Israel has planned.

Almost like they’re working from the playbook some assholes came up with in the late 1800’s…
 
Gazan residents should have little or no say-so in how Gaza is rebuilt.
They brought in Hamas. Allowed Hamas to turn it into a battleground with hundreds of underground tunnels designed to hide weapons and kill Jews.
They did little to turn Gaza into a respectable territory desiring independence in the eyes of the world.
Nothing of any good ever came from Gaza under the control of Hamas.
Hamas needs to be destroyed and Gazans need to be resettled (hopefully in Gaza) and stop being more than two million starving refugees in a wasteland.
WHY AREN'T THE SURROUNDING OIL-RICH COUNTRIES SURROUNDING GAZA DOING MORE TO HELP GAZANS SURVIVE THROUGH THE YEAR??
Because they know it’s always been Israel’s goal to force the original residents out And nobody wants to take in millions of refugees with nothing but the clothes on their backs.
 
There is no genocide. When you lie and claim there is, reality doesn’t magically change lol
“Ethnic cleansing” is the more accurate term, as it includes killing and driving out and starving and all the other ways assholes have latched on to to get rid of a population of “others”.
 
And there you go complaining again.
Both Jews and Arabs have a claim to the land, and if they can't live together then one or the other must go. IMO, Israel seems more willing to accept Arabs in Israel than Arabs are to accept Jews in Gaza. Hence, I support Israel.

I see no point in continuing a back and forth about this, you can support the Gazans/Hamas and I'll support the Israelis.
The problem is a little more shitty.

Israel could never assimilate the Arab population and maintain a permanent Jewish majority democracy for the simple reason they were already outnumbered by a people that reproduce faster than they do.

And they always had designs on more than what was allocated to them in the Mandate. “Eretz Israel” is a term used In Israel’s declaration of statehood.

Look it up. And then think about how their neighbors felt when THEY saw what that included. It absolutely included Gaza and the West Bank. They consider it all “theirs” by right of occupying the area briefly 900 or so years ago and some religious reference.
 
In addition, Hamas, if it continues to exist, will always have young recruits signing up to get money to kill Jews. What else is new.?
It has been thus so for more than 75 years even before the rise of Hamas.
Israel has had its boot on their necks the whole time.

No supporter of Israel would tolerate their lot for a day if they suddenly woke up Palestinian. They would want to shoot somebody within a week.

If Israel really wanted the Gazans to get rid of Hamas they would stop doing things that make everyday Palestinians no longer give any ****s when somebody harms them back.

You’ll deny it. But that’s because either you buy the ADL line they’ve spent so many years selling you or you are down for bad things happening to innocent people just trying to live their lives.
 
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