Lying Down While Black: 'Merka

[VanceMack]

The OP thinks it's all fine and dandy not to stop for the cops and then refuse to get out of the vehicle for 5 minutes.

The OP thinks it's all fine and dandy for people to interfere with a police stop.

Racists! Racists! Racists everywhere!

Trump's Murica!

Its the idiot left and their clown car full of morons that cloud the real and actual incidents of racism that DO occur. They are too busy trying to turn every tragic incident into a political attack and wedge issue. Sick disgusting ****s the lot of them.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Its the idiot left and their clown car full of morons that cloud the real and actual incidents of racism that DO occur. They are too busy trying to turn every tragic incident into a political attack and wedge issue. Sick disgusting ****s the lot of them.

Exactly. Nobody is denying that there are actual racial incidents.

There are racial incidents every day in the USA and they are not always white vs. black.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

The OP thinks it's all fine and dandy not to stop for the cops and then refuse to get out of the vehicle for 5 minutes.

The OP thinks it's all fine and dandy for people to interfere with a police stop.

Racists! Racists! Racists everywhere!

Trump's Murica!

The video link is in OP ( YouTube ) . Even after he got to grandma's he refused to get out of the car for several minutes and then hoped out with an attitude. Either way, fleeing the police in a vehicle makes it a felony under Texas law and if you watch the video, he had plenty of places to pull over before he got to grandma's house.

His 90 year old gramma was taking out of her ass and then fell over without being touched. The 'high drama' was started by the little ****ing moron running from the cop, then acting like a tool when he got out of the car. And people like you feed into his moronic actions trying to turn his ****ing stupidity into a racial incident.

YOU are the problem,

If you keep driving when the police try to pull you over . . . it won't go well for you.

Out of curiosity - is the first few minutes a police chase or not? I was expecting to hear sirens - I didn't watch any further than that because I want to know if it's standard in the USA that several police cars follow you without sirens and you should automatically pull over?

How was the driver supposed to know he has to pull over? Are Americans mind-readers now?

 

[Port & Starboard]

Out of curiosity - is the first few minutes a police chase or not? I was expecting to hear sirens - I didn't watch any further than that because I want to know if it's standard in the USA that several police cars follow you without sirens and you should automatically pull over?

How was the driver supposed to know he has to pull over? Are Americans mind-readers now?

If you get lit up......you pull over.

 

[holbritter]

Facedown on his grandmother’s grassy Texas lawn, a young black man cried as officers pointed guns at him for his alleged failure to heed a stop sign. Neighbors and loved ones watching his May 16 arrest called for 21-year-old Tye Anders to put his hands down and screamed at officers for having their firearms ready. “He’s scared. Y’all have guns on him. He’s black,” one woman called out to the officers. “Do y’all not see how many black people are getting shot?” Police wanted Anders to walk toward them while they had their guns drawn, but Anders refused. “I’m scared,” he shrieked. His 90-year-old grandmother, dressed in a cream-colored nightgown, exited her brick home and stood by her wailing grandson with a walking stick in her left hand. “We just need him to comply so we can talk to him,” an officer said, according to dash-cam footage released by the City of Midland. Four officers moved closer to the pair to arrest Anders, with another one nearby with gun in hand. Anders’s grandmother fell during the arrest and chaos ensued.
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Anders is facing a felony evading charge. Police were trying to initiate a traffic stop for Anders’s alleged failure to stop at a traffic sign but he continued to drive to his grandmother’s house, according to a statement provided by Midland Public Information Officer Erin Bailey. Officers repeatedly instructed Anders to exit his car. When he did, instead of cooperating by walking toward them, “he stopped and laid on the ground,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ther-video-shows-they-claim-he-ran-stop-sign/


"The suspect approached me" is one of many typical excuses for shooting. "He should have complied," the usual suspects usually say. This guy knew that. This guy knows about all the black people killed (or beaten then charged with resisting arrest). He was ****ing his pants. So he lies down to show he is no threat.

Felony evading charge for this? He did stop. He did get out. The one thing he didn't do is walk towards cops who were pointing guns at him.




It's sickening that one can say in all seriousness "at least they didn't start shooting." What is wrong with the police in this country? I know people all around the world. I never hear about this kind of insanity happening with any regularity in other European countries, etc. It's ridiculous.

Can you please explain exactly what the cops were supposed to do? Car runs a stop sign and DOESN'T pull over, but continues to drive. Then sits in the driveway for over 6 MINUTES while being told to get out of the car 11 TIMES.

What the **** are the cops supposed to think? Are they mind readers? Then you some people shrieking and escalating the whole thing and the cops are still being calm telling him what to do, while he lays down, gets up, lays back down, waving his arms, crying and screaming acting like he's ****ing high or something. What a **** show, brought on by the civilians ONLY. Then grandma falls on him.....NOT ONE PERSON TOUCHED HER....and the freaking screaming women and everyone freaks out. All because he ran a stop sign and refused to pull over.
Then you hear them say "Well, now we got a ****ing story to tell" and laughing.


Seriously? And this is the cops fault? They did absolutely nothing wrong, so you picked the wrong video to try and paint them as the bad guys.

 

[holbritter]

Assaulting grandma didn't help.

NO ONE TOUCHED GRANDMA. Did you actually watch the video?

 

[holbritter]

If you look at the situation and don't see anything to complain about, I don't know what to tell you. Their behavior was completely over the top given the situation. They acted like they were trained to escalate everything, not de-escalate it.

And what the ultimate disposition of the case is is irrelevant to the thread, since the thread is about the behavior of the police on the scene. Relatedly, the behavior of similar cops on similar scenes throughout the country.



They act like they're going into a hot landing zone when it's some guy too scared to walk so he lies down. I don't want that in my country. I want cool-headed, intelligent, compassionate police officers. And sure, pay them better and the like for what we demand.

I expect better of law enforcement. Instead Americans are all to happy to give them a pass on things that you or I would go to jail in a heartbeat for.




Did you not watch the video in the article? He's limp, not moving, etc., and they've got guns pointed everywhere, etc. It's crazy. Grandma passes out. Cops are blocking people from helping her for a while until just one of them has the sense not to be a psychotic asshole and lets one of the granddaughters elbow him out of the way. All the civilians are terrified because - duh - they're black, and this is who black people die at cop hands.

What the hell is wrong with America that people can look at that video and say "yeah, that all seems reasonable for a stop sign violation"?




I swear, one of the most beneficial technologies for human beings would be the ability to have your consciousness temporarily transferred or altered such that you really could experience a slice of life from someone else's perspective. Have a couple of mandatory uses through youth. See how the various "other sides" live.

Did YOU watch it? He's waving his arms around, getting on his knees, lying back down. Where in any of that video is he limp and not moving??

 

[holbritter]

You really don't see the major over reaction there for nothing more than running a stop sign? I mean that cop sounded foolish screaming for him to step out of the car and saying "you ran a stop sign!!!" :doh

Please tell me what they should have done. Be exact, and not 'anything but what they did' because that's a non-answer. What exactly should they have done? He didn't just run a stop sign, he also refused to pull over and kept driving.

 

[holbritter]

Well, if you're a Trump supporter and watched that video then you clearly saw the driver run a stop sign, continue to drive after lights and sirens came on and then freak out on the cops.

If you're a social justice advocate then you clearly saw the cop profile a black man that did nothing wrong, assault his grandmother, and brutally attack him because of his race.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I saw the first situation, so that's not really fair.

 

[calamity]

Facedown on his grandmother’s grassy Texas lawn, a young black man cried as officers pointed guns at him for his alleged failure to heed a stop sign. Neighbors and loved ones watching his May 16 arrest called for 21-year-old Tye Anders to put his hands down and screamed at officers for having their firearms ready. “He’s scared. Y’all have guns on him. He’s black,” one woman called out to the officers. “Do y’all not see how many black people are getting shot?” Police wanted Anders to walk toward them while they had their guns drawn, but Anders refused. “I’m scared,” he shrieked. His 90-year-old grandmother, dressed in a cream-colored nightgown, exited her brick home and stood by her wailing grandson with a walking stick in her left hand. “We just need him to comply so we can talk to him,” an officer said, according to dash-cam footage released by the City of Midland. Four officers moved closer to the pair to arrest Anders, with another one nearby with gun in hand. Anders’s grandmother fell during the arrest and chaos ensued.
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Anders is facing a felony evading charge. Police were trying to initiate a traffic stop for Anders’s alleged failure to stop at a traffic sign but he continued to drive to his grandmother’s house, according to a statement provided by Midland Public Information Officer Erin Bailey. Officers repeatedly instructed Anders to exit his car. When he did, instead of cooperating by walking toward them, “he stopped and laid on the ground,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ther-video-shows-they-claim-he-ran-stop-sign/


"The suspect approached me" is one of many typical excuses for shooting. "He should have complied," the usual suspects usually say. This guy knew that. This guy knows about all the black people killed (or beaten then charged with resisting arrest). He was ****ing his pants. So he lies down to show he is no threat.

Felony evading charge for this? He did stop. He did get out. The one thing he didn't do is walk towards cops who were pointing guns at him.




It's sickening that one can say in all seriousness "at least they didn't start shooting." What is wrong with the police in this country? I know people all around the world. I never hear about this kind of insanity happening with any regularity in other European countries, etc. It's ridiculous.

White privilege is not ****ting your pants when stopped by cops in the middle of nowhere one night. And, certainly, we will never see a white man in the same position as this black guy for running a stop sign.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

If you get lit up......you pull over.

OK, at which point in the video is he "lit up" or a siren sounded to warn him to pull over? That was what I was asking in my first post.

 

[Port & Starboard]

OK, at which point in the video is he "lit up" or a siren sounded to warn him to pull over? That was what I was asking in my first post.

He drove for blocks and went into the driveway.

Red flag for any officer.

Read the story.

 

[pinqy]

OK, at which point in the video is he "lit up" or a siren sounded to warn him to pull over? That was what I was asking in my first post.

This version of the video has captions and states when the lights came on.

 

[pinqy]

White privilege is not ****ting your pants when stopped by cops in the middle of nowhere one night. And, certainly, we will never see a white man in the same position as this black guy for running a stop sign.

Well, not running a stop sign, but here’s what happened to a White judge who was pulled over and refused to exit:

 

[holbritter]

White privilege is not ****ting your pants when stopped by cops in the middle of nowhere one night. And, certainly, we will never see a white man in the same position as this black guy for running a stop sign.

It was during the day in a freaking neighborhood. You didn't watch it either?

 

[calamity]

It was during the day in a freaking neighborhood. You didn't watch it either?

Uh, my remark was generic and not specific to this particular event.

 

[calamity]

Well, not running a stop sign, but here’s what happened to a White judge who was pulled over and refused to exit:

I bet he's still alive

 

[Excon]

This version of the video has captions and states when the lights came on.

Holy ****. The suspect is being an irrational, combative and belligerent ****.

 

[gdgyva]

Facedown on his grandmother’s grassy Texas lawn, a young black man cried as officers pointed guns at him for his alleged failure to heed a stop sign. Neighbors and loved ones watching his May 16 arrest called for 21-year-old Tye Anders to put his hands down and screamed at officers for having their firearms ready. “He’s scared. Y’all have guns on him. He’s black,” one woman called out to the officers. “Do y’all not see how many black people are getting shot?” Police wanted Anders to walk toward them while they had their guns drawn, but Anders refused. “I’m scared,” he shrieked. His 90-year-old grandmother, dressed in a cream-colored nightgown, exited her brick home and stood by her wailing grandson with a walking stick in her left hand. “We just need him to comply so we can talk to him,” an officer said, according to dash-cam footage released by the City of Midland. Four officers moved closer to the pair to arrest Anders, with another one nearby with gun in hand. Anders’s grandmother fell during the arrest and chaos ensued.
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Anders is facing a felony evading charge. Police were trying to initiate a traffic stop for Anders’s alleged failure to stop at a traffic sign but he continued to drive to his grandmother’s house, according to a statement provided by Midland Public Information Officer Erin Bailey. Officers repeatedly instructed Anders to exit his car. When he did, instead of cooperating by walking toward them, “he stopped and laid on the ground,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ther-video-shows-they-claim-he-ran-stop-sign/


"The suspect approached me" is one of many typical excuses for shooting. "He should have complied," the usual suspects usually say. This guy knew that. This guy knows about all the black people killed (or beaten then charged with resisting arrest). He was ****ing his pants. So he lies down to show he is no threat.

Felony evading charge for this? He did stop. He did get out. The one thing he didn't do is walk towards cops who were pointing guns at him.




It's sickening that one can say in all seriousness "at least they didn't start shooting." What is wrong with the police in this country? I know people all around the world. I never hear about this kind of insanity happening with any regularity in other European countries, etc. It's ridiculous.

HE DIDNT STOP....he drove to his grandmothers

you get lit up, and fail to stop and continue driving, THAT IS EVADING POLICE

i dont care if you are driving 25mph.....

the only time you are "allowed" to proceed is if it is so dark that the place they are trying to pull you over is deemed "dangerous"...and the judge better see it that way also

women have been known to proceed to a very well lit area for that exact reason at a "slow" pace

 

[gdgyva]

Facedown on his grandmother’s grassy Texas lawn, a young black man cried as officers pointed guns at him for his alleged failure to heed a stop sign. Neighbors and loved ones watching his May 16 arrest called for 21-year-old Tye Anders to put his hands down and screamed at officers for having their firearms ready. “He’s scared. Y’all have guns on him. He’s black,” one woman called out to the officers. “Do y’all not see how many black people are getting shot?” Police wanted Anders to walk toward them while they had their guns drawn, but Anders refused. “I’m scared,” he shrieked. His 90-year-old grandmother, dressed in a cream-colored nightgown, exited her brick home and stood by her wailing grandson with a walking stick in her left hand. “We just need him to comply so we can talk to him,” an officer said, according to dash-cam footage released by the City of Midland. Four officers moved closer to the pair to arrest Anders, with another one nearby with gun in hand. Anders’s grandmother fell during the arrest and chaos ensued.
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Anders is facing a felony evading charge. Police were trying to initiate a traffic stop for Anders’s alleged failure to stop at a traffic sign but he continued to drive to his grandmother’s house, according to a statement provided by Midland Public Information Officer Erin Bailey. Officers repeatedly instructed Anders to exit his car. When he did, instead of cooperating by walking toward them, “he stopped and laid on the ground,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ther-video-shows-they-claim-he-ran-stop-sign/


"The suspect approached me" is one of many typical excuses for shooting. "He should have complied," the usual suspects usually say. This guy knew that. This guy knows about all the black people killed (or beaten then charged with resisting arrest). He was ****ing his pants. So he lies down to show he is no threat.

Felony evading charge for this? He did stop. He did get out. The one thing he didn't do is walk towards cops who were pointing guns at him.




It's sickening that one can say in all seriousness "at least they didn't start shooting." What is wrong with the police in this country? I know people all around the world. I never hear about this kind of insanity happening with any regularity in other European countries, etc. It's ridiculous.

what is it about young black men that think ORDERS from police officers are just suggestions?

and when they dont follow them, they wonder WHY situations get escalated?

FOLLOW THE DAMN ORDERS

TO THE TEE....BE POLITE....BE RESPECTFUL....and then if you feel like your rights were screwed with, get a lawyer and fight it in court

dont fight it on the street....dont be a wiseass....

see the same damn thing time after time after time....do these kids not understand their LIVES depend on them doing this?

 

[PirateMk1]

Facedown on his grandmother’s grassy Texas lawn, a young black man cried as officers pointed guns at him for his alleged failure to heed a stop sign. Neighbors and loved ones watching his May 16 arrest called for 21-year-old Tye Anders to put his hands down and screamed at officers for having their firearms ready. “He’s scared. Y’all have guns on him. He’s black,” one woman called out to the officers. “Do y’all not see how many black people are getting shot?” Police wanted Anders to walk toward them while they had their guns drawn, but Anders refused. “I’m scared,” he shrieked. His 90-year-old grandmother, dressed in a cream-colored nightgown, exited her brick home and stood by her wailing grandson with a walking stick in her left hand. “We just need him to comply so we can talk to him,” an officer said, according to dash-cam footage released by the City of Midland. Four officers moved closer to the pair to arrest Anders, with another one nearby with gun in hand. Anders’s grandmother fell during the arrest and chaos ensued.
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Anders is facing a felony evading charge. Police were trying to initiate a traffic stop for Anders’s alleged failure to stop at a traffic sign but he continued to drive to his grandmother’s house, according to a statement provided by Midland Public Information Officer Erin Bailey. Officers repeatedly instructed Anders to exit his car. When he did, instead of cooperating by walking toward them, “he stopped and laid on the ground,” she said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ther-video-shows-they-claim-he-ran-stop-sign/


"The suspect approached me" is one of many typical excuses for shooting. "He should have complied," the usual suspects usually say. This guy knew that. This guy knows about all the black people killed (or beaten then charged with resisting arrest). He was ****ing his pants. So he lies down to show he is no threat.

Felony evading charge for this? He did stop. He did get out. The one thing he didn't do is walk towards cops who were pointing guns at him.




It's sickening that one can say in all seriousness "at least they didn't start shooting." What is wrong with the police in this country? I know people all around the world. I never hear about this kind of insanity happening with any regularity in other European countries, etc. It's ridiculous.

First we have too many police officers, most simply do not have the temperament necessary to do the job properly. Secondly their training is such that it militarizes and makes them emphasis law enforcement rather than what they originally were which is peace officers, the mentality is completely different. The solution is much more careful continuous vetting of officers and far less of them, paid much much more. This is a specialized job that requires a talent and personality combination that is quite frankly rare it needs to be compensated such that those people see it as a viable first or second career. Further it should be encouraged people should go back to defending themselves and resolving problems on their own rather than calling the police at first sign of trouble. The community should also not use the local police as a source of revenue generation.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

He drove for blocks and went into the driveway.

Red flag for any officer.

Read the story.

Someone else found the answer you couldn't provide.

This version of the video has captions and states when the lights came on.

Thank you. As a Brit - seeing so many handguns out for a traffic violation is very unusual. Is that how your police are trained in the USA?

 

[Port & Starboard]

First we have too many police officers, most simply do not have the temperament necessary to do the job properly. Secondly their training is such that it militarizes and makes them emphasis law enforcement rather than what they originally were which is peace officers, the mentality is completely different. The solution is much more careful continuous vetting of officers and far less of them, paid much much more. This is a specialized job that requires a talent and personality combination that is quite frankly rare it needs to be compensated such that those people see it as a viable first or second career. Further it should be encouraged people should go back to defending themselves and resolving problems on their own rather than calling the police at first sign of trouble. The community should also not use the local police as a source of revenue generation.

Nice fantasy.

Good read.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Someone else found the answer you couldn't provide.



Thank you. As a Brit - seeing so many handguns out for a traffic violation is very unusual. Is that how your police are trained in the USA?

What a crock!

Refusing to stop for blocks, and then pulling into a private driveway, and then refusing to exit the car for 5 minutes would be a red flag for the most docile police officer.

I don't care what you think about American police officers.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

What a crock!

Refusing to stop for blocks, and then pulling into a private driveway, and then refusing to exit the car for 5 minutes would be a red flag for the most docile police officer.

I don't care what you think about American police officers.

Clear that "de-escalation" is a word you and your police are unused to.