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Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman retires, citing campaign of ‘bullying’ and ‘retaliation’ by Trump after i

We'll see. November 4th is the only poll that counts. Thing with polls is the questions they ask and who they ask them of. like COVID, I don't know anyone who has ever been polled. For all I know they are polling Berkeley professors.

de Nile isn't only a river in Egypt.


Half of active-duty service members are unhappy with Trump, new Military Times poll shows

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“Over time, as the president has been involved with more controversial things connected to the military — whether it’s the border wall or the pardons or the way that Secretary Mattis left — that has changed the view of him,” said retired Marine Corps Col. Dave Lapan, who worked as a department spokesman during both the administrations of Trump and Obama. “And they’ve seen more indications that he hasn’t been a great commander in chief. So, they’re moving closer to where the rest of the public is.” “We know the military tends to follow the general public but lag conservative. We know that Trump is not as popular with the general public as he has been, and that he hasn’t really built upon his base. Now we’re seeing that reflected in the military, too.”


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When asked about Trump’s decision to use military construction funds to build his controversial southern border wall, 59 percent said they disapprove of his decision. More than half rated current U.S. relations with “traditional allies” like NATO as poor. “His comments with McCain were upsetting to a lot of folks, but it was probably more in the senior ranks,” [Lapan] said. “For junior troops, Mattis is much more popular. So they are changing their minds more.” Troops were split evenly on the ongoing impeachment proceedings in Congress. In the poll, 47 percent said they back the impeachment, 46 percent said they were opposed. That’s roughly the same breakdown as the rest of the American public.


Half of active-duty service members are unhappy with Trump, new Military Times poll shows


While the Pentagon authorizes this survey by Military Times & Syracuse University Veterans Center, Pentagon has a number of qualifiers, restrictions, permissions, appropriate processes and procedures etc that allow active duty service members to express themselves voluntarily and freely on their own time and for the poll takers to respect the chain of command always. All the same the question topics, methods and opinions do reflect civilian polls in general.
 
Vindman was detailed to the WH NSC by the chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff.

After Trump chased Vindman out of the WH the LTC returned to the chairman of the JCS.

He was approved for the rank of colonel by the Pentagon Colonels Promotion Board signed off on by SecDef Esper. While you're prattling on about deep state Trump is in deep sh!t with the armed forces over this too among many serious trangressions against our troops and our national security.

I retract the un-elected portion of Vindman's resume.:roll:
 
de Nile isn't only a river in Egypt.


Half of active-duty service members are unhappy with Trump, new Military Times poll shows

December 17, 2019
109K
Troops' opinion of Trump heads down | Military Times Reports


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Half of active-duty service members are unhappy with Trump, new Military Times poll shows


While the Pentagon authorizes this survey by Military Times & Syracuse University Veterans Center, Pentagon has a number of qualifiers, restrictions, permissions, appropriate processes and procedures etc that allow active duty service members to express themselves voluntarily and freely on their own time and for the poll takers to respect the chain of command always. All the same the question topics, methods and opinions do reflect civilian polls in general.

Want to see a poll that has almost always been right? Here ya go

Professor doubles down on prediction model of Trump'''s chances in 2020 | Fox News


91% chance of winning. 4 more years. Get ready.
 
you guys keeping track of the folks who back a New York City crook and conman over a military member?


they aren't pro military/life/small government/truth/transparency. and they never have been.
 
Has Vindman stopped srying and whining yet?

BWAH! I was bullied. I tried to enact a coup on Twump wid Schiff's help and he spanked me mommy! BWAH! I'm quittin now mommy. Twump is big bad orange man bully.
 
Has Vindman stopped srying and whining yet?

BWAH! I was bullied. I tried to enact a coup on Twump wid Schiff's help and he spanked me mommy! BWAH! I'm quittin now mommy. Twump is big bad orange man bully.

Has ranger tab

Wounded in combat but finished his tour anyway

Let's compare that to the toughest things you have ever done.


I'll wait. Lol
 
Has ranger tab

Wounded in combat but finished his tour anyway

Let's compare that to the toughest things you have ever done.


I'll wait. Lol

He's a soy boy like Stelter
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...um=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most

An Army officer who played a high-profile role in President Trump’s impeachment proceedings is retiring from the military over alleged “bullying” and “retaliation” by the president, his lawyer said Wednesday.

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who served as a national security aide at the White House until earlier this year and was up for promotion to colonel, will leave the military instead, his lawyer, David Pressman, said in a statement.
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Up for promotion to colonel, Vindman was harassed & intimidated for his testimony in the Trump impeachment trial.

If you actually believe that's why he retired, your naiveté is truly astonishing.
 
The Trumpists will cheer this result Trump's utter corruption.

Remember: the ugliness is the point.

Yes, patriots tend to cheer when seditious foreigners are drummed out of positions of authority.
 
What I do remember is that the Republican majority in the House never did vote on a choke hold.

So you so not recall Eric Holder defying congress? I remember Holder defying congress.
 
Has ranger tab

Wounded in combat but finished his tour anyway

Let's compare that to the toughest things you have ever done.


I'll wait. Lol

Let's compare Vindman to my Uncle who was killed in combat. My uncle took his squad to blow up a Bridge in South Korea and was later killed in combat in a rice paddy. Vindman is alive to commit crimes against the president.
 
And he still whined about his commander in chief, so he's a whiner and a quitter.

He’s a good example of a useful idiot the left exploits. They aren’t used to republicans that fight back. The left are bullies and use people in the military ( which they despise), race, gender, etc to insulate them from any questions that would expose them for the useful idiots they are. If there’s a flaw in there scheme, and you point it out, then you’ll be accused of attacking a “ war hero”. They keep the pressure on by lying, misrepresenting the persons position, etc. They will continue to attack, and we must fight them back at every turn. It’s exhausting, but they must be exposed for the Marxist fanatics they are.
 
this says it all about the caliber of the CinC

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Likely he realized he will never get a promotion, and likely trump is not even behind it. The guy injected opinion and politics into his task which is a no go, likely his oer is now bad enough he would never be considered for promotion even if eligable.

In the military as an officer, doing something bad but not getting kicked out usually makes you end up at a desk job frozen in your rank, aka a career ender. Most likely he realized his superior did not write a good oer and most likely wrote a bad one, and his carreer was now stuck on stay at that rank until retirement or retire now. You must remember not everything is top level pentagon when it comes to promotions, nco's have an ncoer and officers have oer's, things going badly on them can either halt rank progression or severely limit it.

That makes plenty of common sense.
 
He’s a good example of a useful idiot the left exploits. They aren’t used to republicans that fight back. The left are bullies and use people in the military ( which they despise), race, gender, etc to insulate them from any questions that would expose them for the useful idiots they are. If there’s a flaw in there scheme, and you point it out, then you’ll be accused of attacking a “ war hero”. They keep the pressure on by lying, misrepresenting the persons position, etc. They will continue to attack, and we must fight them back at every turn. It’s exhausting, but they must be exposed for the Marxist fanatics they are.

Schiff belongs in the hall of shame for what he did to Vindman.
 
Want to see a poll that has almost always been right? Here ya go

Professor doubles down on prediction model of Trump'''s chances in 2020 | Fox News


91% chance of winning. 4 more years. Get ready.

No I'm not interested in your polls because you -- same as Trump -- don't know what you're doing in this or how self destructive it is.

The Military Times - Syracuse University Veterans Center survey I presented in scrolling says what it finds at the time of the polling. It is a what is poll that is based on the sampling of respondents at a particular time on specific issues and concerns. It has zero interest in predicting anything. MT simply shows annually at the end of each year what it is the respondents say. That Trump's trend line on that accounting is strongly negative is Trump's doing. Period.


So if you want to serve polls and volley 'em you can forget it. And here's the reason: For every poll you've got I've got one too that says the opposite. So it might be time for you to hit the showers and chill a bit on this and for a while. After all you're the guy who made a fragmented claim about the military vote that you are entirely unable to support. All that came from it is that you got me to link to Breitbart which I was pleased to do in this instance and only this instance...


Prof Who Predicted 40-Seat Blue Wave Guarantees Trump 2020 Defeat: Dem Starts with 278 Electoral Votes


A Christopher Newport University professor [Rachel Bitecofer] who accurately predicted that Democrats would flip 40 House seats in the 2018 midterm elections believes that President Donald Trump will lose the 2020 election because the Democrat challenging him will begin the race with 278 Electoral College votes. “Trump’s 2016 path to the White House, which was the political equivalent of getting dealt a Royal Flush in poker, is probably not replicable in 2020 with an agitated Democratic electorate.”

"The complacent electorate of 2016, who were convinced Trump would never be president, has been replaced with the terrified electorate of 2020, who are convinced he’s the Terminator and can’t be stopped. Under my model, that distinction is not only important, it is everything." Bitecofer told O’Donnell that “this ain’t our granddaddy’s electorate anymore” and “the time when you could persuade large swathes of the electorate over has passed.” “I’m not saying that moderates aren’t important or that there aren’t moderates, there certainly are and they can be appealed to – although Democrats don’t do it well – but really it’s all about the base,” said Bitecofer, who believes Trump will have to spend resources and play defense in Arizona, Texas, North Carolina, and Georgia.

Prof Who Predicted 40-Seat Blue Wave Guarantees Trump 2020 Defeat: Dem Starts with 278 Electoral Votes


Neither professor mentions the China Global Plague of CV-19 btw.
 
Vindman didnt obey the law, he bypassed his superior and broke protocol to snitch on the POTUS.

Just the facts... and as you can see if you are still reading the thread, the anti-Trumps don't like the facts.
 
So you so not recall Eric Holder defying congress? I remember Holder defying congress.

You're trying to put words in my mouth even though I never read your Morning Report enshrined under glass as it is.

You guys couldn't hold a candle to LTC Vindman which is the real source of your anger.

And hate.

Republicans were so angry against Holder they decided to make a choke hold policy against black guys anywhere which is where we are today.
 
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No I'm not interested in your polls because you -- same as Trump -- don't know what you're doing in this or how self destructive it is.

The Military Times - Syracuse University Veterans Center survey I presented in scrolling says what it finds at the time of the polling. It is a what is poll that is based on the sampling of respondents at a particular time on specific issues and concerns. It has zero interest in predicting anything. MT simply shows annually at the end of each year what it is the respondents say. That Trump's trend line on that accounting is strongly negative is Trump's doing. Period.


So if you want to serve polls and volley 'em you can forget it. And here's the reason: For every poll you've got I've got one too that says the opposite. So it might be time for you to hit the showers and chill a bit on this and for a while. After all you're the guy who made a fragmented claim about the military vote that you are entirely unable to support. All that came from it is that you got me to link to Breitbart which I was pleased to do in this instance and only this instance...


Prof Who Predicted 40-Seat Blue Wave Guarantees Trump 2020 Defeat: Dem Starts with 278 Electoral Votes





Neither professor mentions the China Global Plague of CV-19 btw.

Lmao, a professor who is fat challenged, ugly and is a Joy Reid fan is predicting his defeat! Go figure. Gee golly willickers, Ma! I better hide under the bed. Here is your dream woman. Rachel.webpWhy is it that left wing females are not just ugly, but butt ugly?
 
You're trying to put words in my mouth even though I never read your Morning Report enshrined under glass as it is.

You guys couldn't hold a candle to LTC Vindman which is the real source of your anger.

And hate.

Republicans were so angry against Holder they decided to make a choke hold policy against black guys anywhere which is where we are today.

Once again, Vindman contacted a attorney who despised Trump and vowed to impeach him. That attorney contacted Schiff. For almost two weeks they schemed to say there was a whistle blower when there wasn't. Then they went to the press to build up the drama. Then they lost bigly. Vindman is now crying to mommy like the sissy doughboy traitor he is. I expect he has a gig lined up with the left wing radicals called CNN, aka Communist Network News.
 
Tf I can't. You don't enter a fish in a tree climbing competition. That the civilian leadership doesn't know jack**** about the reality of the military isn't my issue. Nation building is on the people and they were trying to set up some human-rights western-loving democracy in a region that mostly doesn't understand it.

You cannot and I will show you why. It defies our history:

- After WWII, the U.S. military managed a significant share of the Marshal Plan. The military was involved with not only local security, but building local police force and various other type response agencies. It also dealt with foreign diplomats while focusing on civil engineer programs. In Japan, the military was instrumental to the creation of political parties and the promotion of their new capitalist system.

- In Vietnam, the military was the main force for the creation of security and the maintenance of government political stability. Diplomats routinely defaulted to military/CIA guidance and served mostly as eyes and ears to the White House and Congressional committees.

- But in the aftermath of the 1991 Gulf War there was no need. Kuwait simply picked up where Hussein disrupted them and the military retired to desert bases to play games with Hussein for a decade.


So, nation building has always involved the people, local and foreign civil experts, the occupying military, and our civilian diplomats. When you read from opinionated articles about it is "not the military's job to nation build," you are experiencing undefined frustration. The fact is that the military was not the entity that dropped the ball. Since the end of the Cold War our Presidents and diplomats have exponentially defaulted to the military to fix all problems. When it came to Iraq, the military was not given what it declared it needed in 2002 and 2003, the diplomats largely remained absent, the civil experts turned into an orgy for bloated foreign contracts, and our Presidents (Bush, but especially Obama) made policy decisions based on American domestic popularity polls. This is why when a tool like Trump comes along and declares that the military couldn't even win Afghanistan, it pisses me off.

* Democracy in the Middle East has long existed. This too is another false assumption. Iran was a democracy in 1953 before we re-installed the Shah. As far as the Arab world, democratic systems were in play when Europeans disrupted those systems and created monarchs and autocrats. The religion itself promotes democracy, which is the entire purpose of a shura. Shura is the Arabic word for "consultation"; and the Quran, with Muhammad himself prescribing, encourages Muslims to decide their affairs in consultation with those who will be affected by that decision. THAT is democracy and THAT is what the Islamic Modernists of the late nineteenth century built a philosophy around when pushing back on colonial masters. So, they certainly do understand it. Their problem is that enduring European occupation and later American maintenance served to create Islamists in the early twentieth century.

Of course that happened. It's tribalism and sectarianism. It takes an iron fist to keep the factions from just straight up killing each other in many of those areas. There is a reason that ISIS was able to gain so much ground an it wasn't nearly based on their fighting capability. The Kurds were our best allies, with the nearest chance at setting up something that would be stable and viable. We should've backed them to get their own homeland, if we were going to back anyone.

Their was no "iron fist" in 2010 when the Sunni leadership and the Shia leadership were agreeing about unity. They understood that the instability that their sectarian crap had caused created opportunity for IS. Malaki, an individual that proves that we learned nothing from Diem, was reluctantly allowing a unified government. This all came to a halt the moment what little military we had in the country was abruptly yanked out. With the military, as the diplomat, gone, Malaki defaulted to sectarian grudges and found plenty of bed mates. They sent Iraq backwards. But it was the Obama White House (namely Biden) that was instrumental with this.

** And the Kurds remained our allies until Trump made an irresponsible and senseless unilateral decision, that defied all rational sense and American interest. It would have been entirely impossible to help the Kurds create their own nation in 2003. That time passed some eighty years ago when the Kurds, along with the Jews in Palestine, got screwed out of the deal they made with allies during WWI. To make a countr for the Kurds today would involve carving out some of Turkey, some of Syria, some of Iraq, and some of Iran. The UN did this to create Israel after WWII. Good luck getting any of them to play ball with the Kurds.
 
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Once again, Vindman contacted a attorney who despised Trump and vowed to impeach him. That attorney contacted Schiff. For almost two weeks they schemed to say there was a whistle blower when there wasn't. Then they went to the press to build up the drama. Then they lost bigly. Vindman is now crying to mommy like the sissy doughboy traitor he is. I expect he has a gig lined up with the left wing radicals called CNN, aka Communist Network News.

No matter how you slice it it's still baloney.
 
No matter how you slice it it's still baloney.

Leftists are masters at rewriting history.What I posted are verifiable facts. Sorry you don't like 2 plus 2 equals 4.

If you guys had your way, you would still be saying Trump colluded with Russia.
 
You're trying to put words in my mouth even though I never read your Morning Report enshrined under glass as it is.

You guys couldn't hold a candle to LTC Vindman which is the real source of your anger.

And hate.

Republicans were so angry against Holder they decided to make a choke hold policy against black guys anywhere which is where we are today.

Choke holds were put in place by Democrats. Keep in mind the corrupt Democrat cities.
 
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