Lisa Page's interview

[JasperL]

What makes her worthy of Trumps mercy? She certainly didnt show him any mercy on her opinions.

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Her opinions were intended to be private. His are broadcast to hundreds of millions, perhaps billions, worldwide. It's amazing you don't see the difference.

 

[trouble13]

How would you like to be ragged on for 2 years from the president of the united states, the most powerful man in the world, who broadcasts diatribes about you to some 65 million followers on twitter?

you are not a public person deserving of that kind of treatment ( nor was she, prior to being made famous by Trump )

Also note the dire lack of empathy Trump has for this human being, who has committed no crime.

How is that silly?

If you are objective, then put yourself in her shoes, and read her side of the story.

I would suggest you put yourself in his shoes. How would feel about a person who was secretly trying to get you fired from your job? Would you be empathetic toward them or their efforts?

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[US&THEM]

From what I have seen reported so far, I think theres a strong likelyhood that she did not act professionslly or ethically. I think her bias animonisity most likely caused her to be unfair but i will stop short of saying she did anything criminal until we learn more details.

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What did you think her job was while at the FBI?

 

[MrWonka]

Yet with all these blatant crimes everywhere not a single impeachment vote has been held.

Right, because unfortunately as we've seen in this country is that evidence doesn't seem to matter. Bold faced lies told by the other side are persuasive enough that the actual act of impeaching a president while morally and legally correct could have negative consequences in an election that is already way closer than it should be.

But make no mistake about it, Donald Trump is guilty of numerous felonies that require his removal from office. The evidence against him is overwhelming. He will be charged and he will be found guilty. It's not a question of if, it's a question of how long is it going to take and how much more damage will be be able to do before then.

Furthermore, Pelosi knows that if Trump is removed from office they're just going to get a President Pence and he would actually be just as bad for the country as Trump. Worse yet, Pence could and would pardon Trump and he would be able to spend the rest of his days tweeting and golfing. Pelosi wants Trump in prison where he belongs and the only way that happens is if Democrats win the 2020 election and charge him with all this crimes as a civilian with no Republican President to pardon him.

 

[KLATTU]

No need to quote the whole thing because what you've demonstrated is Page wasn't a fan of Trump and expressed that in private texts. That's actually allowed in a free country, even when the criticism is against Dear Leader, and even the GOP.

Can you explain why these two aren't with the Fbi any more?

You know - if all they did was text each other and say they weren't fans.?

 

[JasperL]

Oh yeah right. Like if two cops were investigating you and they got caught texting one another about how much they hated you and wanted to bust you you'd stand by their first amendment rights . #Frigginphony

I'd think a general hatred of criminal scum that the cops want to bust is actually very common, and shared widely between those hoping to put the guy behind bars. That's not a problem. What is a problem is if they break the rules or laws to do it.

 

[KLATTU]

Right, because unfortunately as we've seen in this country is that evidence doesn't seem to matter. Bold faced lies told by the other side are persuasive enough that the actual act of impeaching a president while morally and legally correct could have negative consequences in an election that is already way closer than it should be.

But make no mistake about it, Donald Trump is guilty of numerous felonies that require his removal from office. The evidence against him is overwhelming. He will be charged and he will be found guilty. It's not a question of if, it's a question of how long is it going to take and how much more damage will be be able to do before then.

Furthermore, Pelosi knows that if Trump is removed from office they're just going to get a President Pence and he would actually be just as bad for the country as Trump. Worse yet, Pence could and would pardon Trump and he would be able to spend the rest of his days tweeting and golfing. Pelosi wants Trump in prison where he belongs and the only way that happens is if Democrats win the 2020 election and charge him with all this crimes as a civilian with no Republican President to pardon him.

. HE is guilty of one thing . Slamming liberal face through wallboard every day!

LAFFFRIOT!!!!

 

[trouble13]

Her private opinion she shared with one person. You understand the difference right?

I dont know how many people she shared her opinions with. For all i know she may of leaked things to the press which would give her opinions as large of audience as Trump. The size of the audience she has really isnt relevant. She voiced her opinions and he voiced his. Thats too bad she does not pike the results. Im sure trump isnt happy about the results of her opinions about him either. Stop pretending like he wasnt provoked.

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[trouble13]

But it's not silly, because public mocking by the President of the United States has very real and very bad impacts on a person's life.

Ok but she provoked him. She needs to put on her big girl pants and deal with it.

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[trouble13]

The republicans are the party that will have to do that work, and they're already undermining it.

People have to be bat**** lunatics in order to continue believing the **** these guys are feeding them.

Like... what a mockery.

Intil i see the report i have no opinion on that

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[JasperL]

Oh we know plenty , just not everything
A DOJ IG investigation confirmed that thousands of text messages between the two were lost after Strzok was removed from then-Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team, but concluded that this was the result of a faulty message collection system that had plagued the FBI for years, and not any foul play.

Well, sure we know plenty. "We" know I have a meeting at 1:30, for example, and my dog skipped breakfast, which is bad because he's diabetic.

What's missing is knowledge of any criminal or even improper act by Page, other than the texts which showed two people expressing private bad thoughts about Trump, and isn't a crime last I checked.

 

[JasperL]

Its equally interesting that an elected offical to the highest office of the land who has not been proven to commit any wrongdoing being the target of an officer of the court and its perfectly OK to conspire to derail his presidency is perfectly OK and the president just needs to lump it. What were you saying about inhumanity?

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You'll need evidence of the bolded, and you don't have any, at least as it relates to Page which is the topic of this thread.

 

[trouble13]

What did you think her job was while at the FBI?

Her job isnt to take down people she does not like

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[JasperL]

From what I have seen reported so far, I think theres a strong likelyhood that she did not act professionslly or ethically. I think her bias animonisity most likely caused her to be unfair but i will stop short of saying she did anything criminal until we learn more details.

First of all, no need to limit it to criminal, there's no evidence she did anything even IMPROPER except criticize Trump in what were intended to be private texts. And.....You're still defending the President attacking her based on no evidence.

It really is OK for government workers to express their opinions in private. It might be unwise, and stupid to do it on government issued equipment, but if the 1A doesn't protect that, it's a useless right. It's also IMO unconscionable for the President to attack someone who has not been shown to have done anything wrong other than criticize him.

 

[JasperL]

I love the manipulative language people employ to try to spin arguments. When Trump criticizes people he is smearing them and when Trump critics smear him they are criticisms. One word is emotionally charged but they are still synonyms of eachother.

You're missing the point. These are different in every meaningful way:

1) PRIVATE TEXTS "smearing" Trump or anyone else on this planet.

2) The President of the United States of America using his official platform that reaches perhaps BILLIONS of people to smear someone whose only "crime" was being critical of Trump in what were intended to be PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS.

 

[JasperL]

I would suggest you put yourself in his shoes. How would feel about a person who was secretly trying to get you fired from your job? Would you be empathetic toward them or their efforts?

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Show your evidence if you're going to make that claim.

And what the President of the United States should do is avoid publicly smearing people who so far haven't even been ACCUSED of a crime or wrongdoing beyond expressing their opinions.

 

[humbolt]

the soon to be released FBI IG report is expected to recognize that they acted professionally and without bias in their professional roles

almost everyone holds a bias. in the federal service, employees are expected not to allow those personal biases to interfere in their public work. it is also expected the IG report will confirm that was the result in these instances

I'll wait to see what thr IG report says, and not rely on current speculation.

Everyone is biased, but Justice department officials, among others, are expected to check their bias at yhe door, and conduct their work in an onjective fashion.

 

[VanceMack]

If you can point to evidence that her personal constitutionally protected opinion affected her work product, please provide it.

:lamo

You people are so predicable its scary. If anyone in the Trump camp said anything even half as corrupt as those disgraceful ****s said you would be ****ting kittens.

 

[humbolt]

No one can point to any "indication" that Page's professional actions were guided by bias.

I presume they did. If it's good enough for Sondland et. al, it's good enough reason to presume Page's mind led her to act on her beliefs.

 

[JasperL]

Ok but she provoked him. She needs to put on her big girl pants and deal with it.

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How? With texts that she intended to be private, and that were then released by a Trump lackey?

Well, hell, then she shouldn't bitch if the President of the United States then proceeds to try to ruin her life! Thou shalt not speak ill of Dear Leader!@!@

 

[JasperL]

Her job isnt to take down people she does not like

She's a lawyer, so that's true, but there's no evidence she tried in any way to "take down" Trump.

 

[JasperL]

:lamo

You people are so predicable its scary. If anyone in the Trump camp said anything even half as corrupt as those disgraceful ****s said you would be ****ting kittens.

Why not just admit there is no evidence? Seems to be more straightforward than that drivel.

 

[VanceMack]

I don't. I think republicans are making a big deal out of nothing. Which at this point doesn't matter anyway. It's all you've got to attempt to defend this president.

But Hillary, Hillary. My god man, give it all a rest.

If in responsible to her pathetic plaintiff wail of "He's not ever going to become president, right? Right?!” her idiot adulterer lover had said "gosh honey...I sure hope not..." you might have a point. That didnt happen. The lead investigators in both the email sham investigation and one of the leads in the Trump investigation stated “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it” along with a specifically defined strategy including direct meetings with Deputy Director McCabe on a plan to overthrow the results of an election. Thats not conjecture...thats admitting to a criminal conspiracy.

 

[JasperL]

I presume they did. If it's good enough for Sondland et. al, it's good enough reason to presume Page's mind led her to act on her beliefs.

Ah, good BUTWHATABOTU!!! Always a good fallback!

 

[US&THEM]

Her job isnt to take down people she does not like

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Yet she didn’t do anything remotely close to what you accuse her of doing. Facts would help your argument.