Lisa Page's interview

[Ikari]

And it's not drunk driving if you get home safe, right?

Exercising my vote in a conscionable manner is not akin to drunk driving. You don't need to regurgitate your propaganda, I've heard it all before. You're just wrong is all.

 

[nota bene]

I think it was two people texting each other. How many white whales do the republicans have?

All these theories are gone. Up in smoke.

How long can the republicans continue to lie, endlessly, about things that are disproven? The media shouldn't even interview these people anymore. The lies are just endless.

No, it wasn't just two adulterers texting each other; it was two FBI agents texting each other.

 

[trouble13]

She was involved with one other FBI agent sending PRIVATE texts back and forth. They were not on Twitter or any other public forum. Yes they had some bias. It was never meant to be public. The FBI made them public which they should not have.

Her and Peter were removed from their positions when this was discovered. If we make it illegal in this country for people to criticize a president, we are on our way to a dictatorship. Their biggest mistake was using government phones to share the texts.

Both their lives have been ruined and they are in constant receipt of harassing threats. Trump is not happy with that. He want's blood. He is not going to get it.

While they may of been intended to be private texts, they were sent on a device that did not belong to them. If they were using private devices the texts would of only come out via a warrant. Their own stupidity exposed them.

What you eloquently are trying to down play as "some bias" i would characterize as open animonisty toward Trump and anyone who voted for him. It was also more than just expressing that they did not like him. They were also conspiring, albeit covertly, to take action against Trump. Hopefully the upcoming IG report will give us more insight to the extent of what those efforts were and what her role in those efforts were.

She is a lot of things but an innocent victim is not one of them. Being mocked in public is the least of her worries.

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[j brown's body]

You're saying she's innocent, yet you're just going to ignore how she's not... yeah, call me when this thread returns to reality.

Please provide the proof that she tried to "bring down" Trump.

 

[humbolt]

She was involved with one other FBI agent sending PRIVATE texts back and forth. They were not on Twitter or any other public forum. Yes they had some bias. It was never meant to be public. The FBI made them public which they should not have.

Her and Peter were removed from their positions when this was discovered. If we make it illegal in this country for people to criticize a president, we are on our way to a dictatorship. Their biggest mistake was using government phones to share the texts.

Both their lives have been ruined and they are in constant receipt of harassing threats. Trump is not happy with that. He want's blood. He is not going to get it.

Some bias? These were purported to be two progessional adults working at high levels in the Justice department. I suppose the notion of blind justice is lost on you. Their texts exchanges were entered on government issued equipment, and they sacrificed their privacy the minute they did so. Too freaking bad. They blurred the line between professional conduct and personal emotions themselves.

I've seen high schoolers behave more responsibly. Page doesn't get a pass, and she has no ground at all to claim she's been victimized. She's completely responsible for her own juvenile actions.

 

[j brown's body]

While they may of been intended to be private texts, they were sent on a device that did not belong to them. If they were using private devices the texts would of only come out via a warrant. Their own stupidity exposed them.

What you eloquently are trying to down play as "some bias" i would characterize as open animonisty toward Trump and anyone who voted for him. It was also more than just expressing that they did not like him. They were also conspiring, albeit covertly, to take action against Trump. Hopefully the upcoming IG report will give us more insight to the extent of what those efforts were and what her role in those efforts were.

She is a lot of things but an innocent victim is not one of them. Being mocked in public is the least of her worries.

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If you don't have any proof that she tried to bring down Trump, aren't you really saying that she should be punished for her freedom of expression?

Because that's what it sure looks like.

 

[trouble13]

She was cleared by the Inspector General. Your boy did it and you know it.

Did what?
Are you still stuck on thinking he and Russia conspired to steal the election, lmao

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[JasperL]

So says the Epstein loyalist.

The woman got caught and now she's acting like she is innocent, which is just preposterous.

What crime did she commit, except speaking ill of Dear Leader?

 

[j brown's body]

Some bias? These were purported to be two progessional adults working at high levels in the Justice department. I suppose the notion of blind justice is lost on you. Their texts exchanges were entered on government issued equipment, and they sacrificed their privacy the minute they did so. Too freaking bad. They blurred the line between professional conduct and personal emotions themselves.

I've seen high schoolers behave more responsibly. Page doesn't get a pass, and she has no ground at all to claim she's been victimized. She's completely responsible for her own juvenile actions.

She should be fired and ridiculed because she expressed a personal opinion on government issued equipment?

What gets lost in this mindless tirade is that law enforcement knew that Russia was interfering in the presidential campaign, that the Trump campaign was meeting with Russians, and that they were lying about it.

One can easily see these texts as a reflection of professional concern.

 

[trouble13]

If you don't have any proof that she tried to bring down Trump, aren't you really saying that she should be punished for her freedom of expression?

Because that's what it sure looks like.

I dont know to what extent she was involved but her communications indicate her desire to bring him down. Whether she broke any laws or not, her opinions are not immune from critism. Trump has a right to Express his opinions too. Freedom of expression cuts both ways.

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[OscarLevant]

Innocent?
She was literally involved as one of the plotters working to undermine his presidency. She got caught and now is whining about being mocked over it.

Perhsps if she acted more professionally to begin with her fragile delicate feelings would still be in tact.

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Hear her side of the story, and I've yet to see evidence of how having a first amendment protected opinion affected her work product.

And, i believe the IG agrees?


As for "fragile", let's see how you would feel, as someone who wasn't supposed to be famous, nor wanting it, how you'd feel if the most powerful man in the world ragged on your ass for over 2 years.

And, again, did you read her side of the story, i.e, are you being objective?


Moreover, my point is more about the president's unrelenting and unjust, conduct unbecoming of a president, behavior.

 

[nota bene]

Questions aren't answers, nor do they presume answers. It's a sign of how little Trump's conspiracy theorists have going for them that they keep trying to make something out of one sentence from a discussion an FBI agent had with his girl friend.

I'm really perplexed by the denial that two FBI agents who despised Trump were talking about stopping a Presidential candidate from being elected.

From ABC News:

More than 100 pages of newly-recovered text messages show that former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page used authorized channels within the FBI to help shape what they viewed as misguided media reports, and they expressed deep concern about politically-motivated leaks they suspected came from outside the FBI and Justice Department.

...Before being relegated to the FBI's human resources division last year and then fired from the FBI last month, Strzok helped lead the agency's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and any possible contacts between Trump associates and Russian operatives. Page was an attorney for the FBI. Batch of new Strzok-Page texts shows FBI efforts to shape news reports - ABC News

John Solomon, writing at The Hill 7-19-2018, called Strzok and Page the "poster children for the next “Don’t Text and Investigate” public service ads airing soon at an FBI office near you" (and yes, I know...eeeek! Boo! Hiss! John Solomon! Oh, well, then, dismissed!):

Their extraordinary texting affair on their government phones has given the FBI a black eye, laying bare a raw political bias brought into the workplace that agents are supposed to check at the door when they strap on their guns and badges.

It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to “stop” Trump from becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments.

The Justice Department’s inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question. Opinion: One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American | TheHill

 

[Obscurity]

No, it wasn't just two adulterers texting each other; it was two FBI agents texting each other.

And?

The IG report explicitly lays out that there was no malfeasance. Sorry, the mythology is gone, up in smoke.

 

[JasperL]

Thats right. It was never meant to be public. Which is why they expressed their true identities and why they exposed themselves and their bull**** conspiracy with Andy McCabe to overthrow a duly elected president.

The funny thing is...you think what you just wrote HELPED her case and DIDNT somehow paint her as even MORE of a rat piece of ****.

What's missing are the actions to "overthrow" the piece of **** Trump, or any determination that there were any such illegitimate actions.

 

[nota bene]

And?

The IG report explicitly lays out that there was no malfeasance. Sorry, the mythology is gone, up in smoke.

Well, alrighty then.

 

[Obscurity]

I'm really perplexed by the denial that two FBI agents who despised Trump were talking about stopping a Presidential candidate from being elected.

From ABC News:

More than 100 pages of newly-recovered text messages show that former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page used authorized channels within the FBI to help shape what they viewed as misguided media reports, and they expressed deep concern about politically-motivated leaks they suspected came from outside the FBI and Justice Department.

...Before being relegated to the FBI's human resources division last year and then fired from the FBI last month, Strzok helped lead the agency's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and any possible contacts between Trump associates and Russian operatives. Page was an attorney for the FBI. Batch of new Strzok-Page texts shows FBI efforts to shape news reports - ABC News

John Solomon, writing at The Hill 7-19-2018, called Strzok and Page the "poster children for the next “Don’t Text and Investigate” public service ads airing soon at an FBI office near you" (and yes, I know...eeeek! Boo! Hiss! John Solomon! Oh, well, then, dismissed!):

Their extraordinary texting affair on their government phones has given the FBI a black eye, laying bare a raw political bias brought into the workplace that agents are supposed to check at the door when they strap on their guns and badges.

It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to “stop” Trump from becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments.

The Justice Department’s inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question. Opinion: One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American | TheHill

2 agents with personal political opinions. If I were in the FBI, I'd have been worried about someone like Donald Trump being elected also. He is a loose cannon, a total moron, and completely unable to lead in the capacity needed.

Page and Different Strokes had personal opinions of the president. I am sure they didn't want him elected, like the majority of individuals in this country didn't want him elected.

That doesn't mean anything, at all.

 

[j brown's body]

I dont know to what extent she was involved but her communications indicate her desire to bring him down. Whether she broke any laws or not, her opinions are not immune from critism. Trump has a right to Express his opinions too. Freedom of expression cuts both ways.

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As far was we know, she wasn't involved at all. This is more right-wing conspiracy mongering. They seem to stand for little else anymore, and that should concern all of us.

No one is saying the president doesn't have the right to free speech, but to bully someone and lie about someone so unmercifully reflects a much greater problem - a president with the emotional maturity of a disgruntled 8th grader. That should concern all of us too.

 

[Obscurity]

Well, alrighty then.

Smoke. It's all up in smoke. You gonna keep insisting there's a there, there, when no there, there, has been established? In MULTIPLE investigations?

 

[OscarLevant]

Not even a little shocking how the rat party and the media machine is rushing to spin Lisa Page as some poor unwitting victim.

The totality of her texts indicate EXTREME bias in their work but also very clearly exposes the rat conspiracy withing the FBI to overthrow a duly elected president.

And you folk just ignore all that because of your constant mindless hatred of TTTRRRRUUUUUUMMMMPPPPPP!!!!! Of course you do. Because are Lisa Page. You are Peter Strzok. You are Andy McCabe. Collectively...you are all the same people. Same mindset. Same excuses. Same corruption. Anything to get Trump.

If you can point to evidence that her personal constitutionally protected opinion affected her work product, please provide it.

 

[KLATTU]

What crime did she commit, except speaking ill of Dear Leader?

Well we aren't exactly sure, are we?

Mueller hated Dear Leader and he stacked his team with people like Page who hated Dear Leader . So we'll never know.

 

[JasperL]

she is lucky she wasn't charged with conspiracy and sedition charges.
same goes with stzok, mccabe, and comey.

So, criticizing Dear Leader is the new "sedition" in a nominally free country? Appears so, because you can't identify any seditious acts.

 

[trouble13]

Hear her side of the story, and I've yet to see evidence of how having a first amendment protected opinion affected her work product.

And, i believe the IG agrees?


As for "fragile", let's see how you would feel, as someone who wasn't supposed to be famous, nor wanting it, how you'd feel if the most powerful man in the world ragged on your ass for over 2 years.

And, again, did you read her side of the story, i.e, are you being objective?


Moreover, my point is more about the president's unrelenting and unjust, conduct unbecoming of a president, behavior.

I think i am being objective. Im open to hearing whats in the IG report and the DOJ report before making up my mind about her.

The only thing im saying is that her complaining that trump mocked her is silly.

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[j brown's body]

2 agents with personal political opinions. If I were in the FBI, I'd have been worried about someone like Donald Trump being elected also. He is a loose cannon, a total moron, and completely unable to lead in the capacity needed.

Page and Different Strokes had personal opinions of the president. I am sure they didn't want him elected, like the majority of individuals in this country didn't want him elected.

That doesn't mean anything, at all.

Their concern may well have been professional. Trump's a crook. That should concern not just law enforcement personnel, but all of us.

 

[JasperL]

Right, so I should believe a person who was ****ing a married man, while plotting what to do to ensure the person voters selected to be President doesn't get sworn in.

Surely you're not worried about adultery given who's President. He's the greatest adulterer of all time!

More to the point, what illegitimate acts did she take to take down Trump? Specifically.

 

[humbolt]

She should be fired and ridiculed because she expressed a personal opinion on government issued equipment?

What gets lost in this mindless tirade is that law enforcement knew that Russia was interfering in the presidential campaign, that the Trump campaign was meeting with Russians, and that they were lying about it.

One can easily see these texts as a reflection of professional concern.

She should not be surprised that her opinions were exposed. There's every indication that the content of their opinions guided their professional actions as well. Their personal beliefs regarding Trump are not in any way a foundation for professional action within the Justice department. Maybe you should consider the Mueller report conclusions again. Sounds like you and Schiff need to get that irrefutable evidence of collusion out there in public.