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Lindsey: Trump Did Nothing Wrong in His Own Mind.

JasperL said:
MOM! HE DID IT TOO/FIRST!!

GOP defense.... :roll:
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The defense is a simple one. You need actual EVIDENCE to remove a POTUS and said evidence has to reach the standard demanded by the Constitution. That is why impeachment was DOA from the beginning.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Hillary was Secretary of State and trafficked top secret documents on her private server. An actual crime by the way ask Eric Snowden and Julias Assange.
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What Trump does in casual conversations in person, even with Russian officials, and on the phone with everyone and his cousin, but Hillary was investigated up and down and inside out and found not to have committed a crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/12/hillary-clinton-most-exonerated-politician-ever/
 
veritas1 said:
Hey, how's that homeless problem coming along? Oh right, you compassionate and moral types do nothing but abet it. Spare me the self righteous blather.
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Deflection. Rejected.
 
Lisa said:
That claim assumes that Trump is both cognizant of the law and has a moral center to know the difference between right and wrong.

Miss Lindsey should learn to keep his mouth shut because it isn't helping Trump's case.
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One has to wonder if John McCain was still alive what would Miss Lindsey's opinion of Trump currently be?
 
veritas1 said:
The defense is a simple one. You need actual EVIDENCE to remove a POTUS and said evidence has to reach the standard demanded by the Constitution. That is why impeachment was DOA from the beginning.
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The only standard the Constitution demands is a two thirds vote in the Senate. Writings of Hamilton and other Founders, however, suggest that abuse of Presidential power that jeopardizes serious interests of the Republic is the clearest kind of impeachable conduct.
 
JackA said:
The only standard the Constitution demands is a two thirds vote in the Senate. Writings of Hamilton and other Founders, however, suggest that abuse of Presidential power that jeopardizes serious interests of the Republic is the clearest kind of impeachable conduct.
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The writings of Hamilton and other Founders don't mean a thing in this cockamaimy world of ours. All that matters is the Republicans hold the senate (thank god) so the lynch mob is temporarily held at bay. When the Democrats flip Texas the country is done.
 
JackA said:
The only standard the Constitution demands is a two thirds vote in the Senate. Writings of Hamilton and other Founders, however, suggest that abuse of Presidential power that jeopardizes serious interests of the Republic is the clearest kind of impeachable conduct.
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No, actually the thing Hamilton most warned about in Federalist #65 is exactly what's happening, that being a totally partisan impeachment. Hamilton spoke of the danger of one party using impeachment as a political weapon. In fact, Pelosi and Nadler made this exact point back in 1998 when Clinton was being impeached. Now, they totally ignore their own warnings in the headlong rush to get Trump. As for the Constitution, vague accusations of "abuse of power" do not meet the standard for impeachment. Nor does "obstruction of Congress", whatever that is.
 
veritas1 said:
No, actually the thing Hamilton most warned about in Federalist #65 is exactly what's happening, that being a totally partisan impeachment. Hamilton spoke of the danger of one party using impeachment as a political weapon. In fact, Pelosi and Nadler made this exact point back in 1998 when Clinton was being impeached. Now, they totally ignore their own warnings in the headlong rush to get Trump. As for the Constitution, vague accusations of "abuse of power" do not meet the standard for impeachment. Nor does "obstruction of Congress", whatever that is.
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I know what it is but don't expect me to understand it for you...
 
lemmiwinx said:
The writings of Hamilton and other Founders don't mean a thing in this cockamaimy world of ours. All that matters is the Republicans hold the senate (thank god) so the lynch mob is temporarily held at bay. When the Democrats flip Texas the country is done.
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The country is done the minute the Dems regain the WH and especially so if they also control Congress. Like I've said, there will be a four year window during Trump's 2nd term for people to figure out what they're going to do when the left regains power and goes full Communist. People should use that time wisely.
 
Moonglow said:
I know what it is but don't expect me to understand it for you...
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Really? The Dems claimed that Trump going to the courts was obstruction as though he didn't have every legal right to do so. The Dems would rather we not have three separate and distinct branches of government. In fact, they don't even want two, if they can help it.
 
lemmiwinx said:
Hillary was Secretary of State and trafficked top secret documents on her private server. An actual crime by the way ask Eric Snowden and Julias Assange.
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On what charges did the DOJ bring against Hillary Clinton for "trafficking top secret documents on her server" ? This issue and Benghazi made me believe that Clinton Derangement Syndrome is real. I don't know how anyone can look at this whole story and see anything other than a high-ranking person who legitimately wanted to not use two mobile devices and whose technical support made a bad choice.

Oh and about those charges, there were none. Yes, there was a major investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of state and that investigation found no evidence of deliberate mishandling of classified information.

The finding by the U.S. State Department, released on Friday by Republican Senator Chuck Grassley's office, follows a three-year investigation, for which Clinton handed over roughly 33,000 emails.

Assertions of wrongdoing had been a major cornerstone of President Donald Trump's 2016 election campaign—with repeated chants and demands to "lock up crooked Hillary"—however, Trump made no mention of the findings on Friday.

The investigation was launched by Grassley in 2017 when he was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Hillary Clinton Cleared of Mishandling Classified Information After 3-Year Private Email Probe, Trump So Far Silent

So all of your bogus "trafficking" claims has been emphatically proven false by Trump's own investigation. Isn't it about time for you to eliminate that false tale out of your repertoire. Give it up already, it's fake.
 
veritas1 said:
Hey, how's that homeless problem coming along? Oh right, you compassionate and moral types do nothing but abet it. Spare me the self righteous blather.
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And you've done what, to help your homeless brothers & sisters?
 
Chomsky said:
And you've done what, to help your homeless brothers & sisters?
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Besides charity? I'm talking about the people who actually have the power to do something about it; the people in charge. It's funny but the only people who actually went out to LA and cleaned up a large section of the homeless encampment were Christian volunteers. The MSM, of course, ignored it.
 
Chomsky said:
Is this the underpinnings of an "incompetence" defense?
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More likely a "too stupid to form the requisite intent" defense. It's what saved Jr. in his tower meeting.

ETA: I guess that's really the same thing.
 
veritas1 said:
Leftists talking about right and wrong and morals.:lamo
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Trumpist who celebrates pissing on honor, duty, and the concept of basic human decency talks about someone else's relationship to morality. :lamo






veritas1 said:
I do dismiss it when the people using it have shown no concern over right or morals up to this point.
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For that to mean anything, someone would have to value your opinion. For someone to value your opinion, you would have to not be a super-cheerleader for Trump who is willing to tell any stupid lie to defend him.
 
Mr Person said:
Trumpist who celebrates pissing on honor, duty, and the concept of basic human decency talks about someone else's relationship to morality. :lamo
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The radical left knows nothing of honor, duty or decency and is utterly unqualified to assess its presence, or lack thereof, in others.
 
iguanaman said:
Trumpists brushing them all off with stupid statements. Party of law and order my ass. :lamo
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No, we simply won't aid the raping of the Constitution that the left is engaging in. Nothing funnier than leftists talking about the founders and the Constitution, two things they hate as long as they don't have to do with attacking Trump. And they think they're fooling people with their fake, pious bull***t.
 
JackA said:
Lindsey Graham Bizarrely Defends Trump: 'He Did Nothing Wrong In His Mind' | HuffPost

This is a defense? Trump is to be understood, it seems, the way you would the craziest sort of lunatic, except that instead of putting him in an asylum we will let him continue to run the country.
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He sold his soul long ago, along with pretty much any rabid Trump supporter. They don't even try to make their lies rational because that isn't the point. It's all about virtue-signalling "love Trump, **** liberals" to other Trumpists, and "**** liberals" to everyone else (who, undoubtedly, becomes a 'liberal' merely by virtue of not worshiping at Trump's cesspool).
 
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