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LGBT+ pride marches in US interrupted by neo-Nazis and stampede

Lovebug said:
Have fun spinning. :)
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No spin, you just made a claim you have never justified. Why must people bitch and moan about folks that do something about this problem?
 
ecofarm said:
Yes. How does outing nazis, showing them to everyone for what they are, create more nazis. Let us be regaled by the tale of injustice that creates nazis.
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Especially since most people like them are rarely honest about their views outside their own circles. Dog whistling and meming has been the alt-reich playbook for a long time. They hide behind more innocent looking messages. The more they are unmasked the better.
 
vesper said:
From the KKK to the various radical left movements in the streets today the strategy is chaos, lawlessness, intimidation, and anarchy. The message stands in direct opposition to the Constitution, freedom, the rule of law, equal justice and free speech. By the OP this group in Detriot identified themselves as National Socialists.

I don't know about you but anyone who chooses to identify their group with the word "Socialist" is a group that is at odds with the Constitution, Freedom, the rule of law, equal justice and free speech.
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The DPRK is democratic guise.
 
ecofarm said:
An opportunity for social media to be a force for good. Out the roaches.
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.... they showed up at a televised event carrying signs. You're congratulating social media for what... not turning their cameras off? :roll:
 
bomberfox said:
Especially since most people like them are rarely honest about their views outside their own circles. Dog whistling and meming has been the alt-reich playbook for a long time. They hide behind more innocent looking messages. The more they are unmasked the better.
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Good point. Unmasking them reveals the impetus behind alt right rhetoric.
 
jmotivator said:
.... they showed up at a televised event carrying signs. You're congratulating social media for what... not turning their cameras off? :roll:
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I'm not congratulating anyone. I'm saying social media should provide the identity of every nazi there, and publish it. That's legal. They have no expectation of privacy in public.

Names. Every one. Published. That's what should be done.
 
Chomsky said:
If so, I disagree. Everyone's aware of Nazis, but very, very, few become one.

Though I suspect hate like this is a learned behaviour. And I can see naive and impressionable individuals getting caught-up where they might not otherwise.

I grew-up in a neighborhood where street gangs were common. It was the guys from messed up situations without good compass or defined self-identity, that were often the ones that joined. Not always, but often enough.
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Its always important to give someone an out as well. Till then its best to defend oneself against someone who has already made their intentions to commit genocide known.
 
rocket88 said:
LGBT+ pride marches in US interrupted by neo-Nazis and stampede | The Independent


In Detroit, an armed white supremacist group called the National Socialist Movement (NSM) descended on the annual Motor City Pride Festival, where they held placards, gave Nazi salutes and displayed armbands with swastikas.

I am without words....
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In the photos of the event there is a picture of a neo-nazi pissing on an Israeli flag. The National Socialists and the Left are so close to full agreement.

The D.C. Dyke March barred the Jewish pride flag. This LGBTQ space no longer feels safe.


Hell, maybe they just felt emboldened by the Dyke March.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not congratulating anyone. I'm saying social media should provide the identity of every nazi there, and publish it. That's legal. They have no expectation of privacy in public.

Names. Every one. Published. That's what should be done.
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Oh, OK, I was giving you too much credit, I see. Carry on.
 
jmotivator said:
Oh, OK, I was giving you too much credit, I see.
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No, you asked a stupid question because you were unable to properly read. But good luck in the future.
 
GodlessBrandy said:
As I said I do not agree with you, but I do agree you have a right to say what you think. All you do by suppressing the ability to say what you think is creating an underground format. If you believe that killing people is justified based upon what they believe is OK then you have every right to say that. And I equally have every right to say it's utter nonsense.

If I killed everyone I disagreed with based upon thinking that what they believe may be dangerous, then everyone holding a religious view of god would be dead. And that would just be the start.
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Its not a matter of everyone i or the poster disagree with. Please quit pretending like anyone is saying that.
 
ecofarm said:
No, you asked a stupid question because you were unable to properly read. But good luck in the future.
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I read perfectly well, I hadn't guessed that you are the type of person who thought that hateful speech should be countered with doxxing rather than, you know, peaceful speech.

Like I said, I had given you too much credit.
 
Wow this thread got 3leftsdoo to spam 2 pages nonstop. Mustve hit a nerve.
 
CMPancake said:
They're not people, they're Nazis. Nazis do not get to be treated like people, they deserve to get treated like Nazis.




Or you know, the Allied Forces that decided that Nazis were bad and needed to cut their **** out by way of gunfire.



You can't defend a damn thing if you believe we can't commit violence against subhumans like Nazis.



If White Americans were rallying around to call for the enslavement of blacks then black Americans have every right to kill them. This really isn't that hard.



None of those groups are presently rallying together as a political party to cull the other. Please try and keep up with the fact that Nazis are not people. It really shouldn't be that hard of a concept.
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They still are human beings. One shouldnt forget that. There are many ways of handling them giving a way out should also be one of them.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not congratulating anyone. I'm saying social media should provide the identity of every nazi there, and publish it. That's legal. They have no expectation of privacy in public.

Names. Every one. Published. That's what should be done.
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Wow you really are triggered. :lol:
 
American said:
So you want to be like white supremasists because they are socialist.
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White supremacy has no inherent connection with socialism. White supremacy isnt socialism.
 
Also i will mention the nazis had very similar rhetoric as modern day alt-righters and Trump. They complained about crisis of immigration of “backwards peoples”
 
CMPancake said:
No. Nazis don't deserve free speech. Nazis deserve to be greeted with violence. We literally had a war explaining why Nazis should be shot dead where they stand.
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Nazis certainly do not deserve the right to free speech. Just as rapists do not deserve the right to a jury trial in which their innocence is presumed. And pedophiles do not deserve the right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure. But if we wish to enjoy living in a state governed by rule of law, one in which our own personal liberties are protected, everyone must necessarily enjoy these rights simultaneously. The alternative is living in a state in which we give the government the absolute prerogative to strip people of their life, liberty and property for being part of a proscribed group (or merely being accused of being part of a proscribed group). Perhaps that appeals to you, CMPancake. I have yet to see any country in history in which awarding the state such power has gone well.
 
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bomberfox said:
White supremacy has no inherent connection with socialism. White supremacy isnt socialism.
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"They wanna be like white supremacists" is popular, validating, rhetoric in some circles.
 
bomberfox said:
White supremacy has no inherent connection with socialism. White supremacy isnt socialism.
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You are absolutely correct, bomberfox. But it must never be forgotten that Socialism is simply a belief relating to a society's economic organization; it can be divorced from other aspects of one's belief in how society should otherwise be organized. Social Democrats, National Socialists, and Marxist-Leninists are all socialists, but outside of most economic matters, they have very little in common with each other. Indeed, the two other forms of socialism (Marxist-Leninism and Nazism) hated and wished to destroy Social Democrats more than anything, because both viewed Social Democracy as the highest form of heretical treason to achieving the worker's state and the racially-pure Germany, respectively.

It is important to remember that originally the Nazi Party was genuinely a Socialist party, and a revolutionary socialist party at that. But unlike Social Democrats or the Marxist-Leninists under Stalin, theirs was not a universal socialist movement to which all people could join in, but one whose social benefits were only to be enjoyed by Germanic Aryans in a so-called "People's Community." However, Hitler killed the most radical socialist members of the Nazi movement, notably Ernst Rohm and Gregor Strasser, in order to secure his position with German militarists and industrialists who he needed in order to effectively rearm Germany in preparation for his desired mass racial struggle.
 
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