Lev Parnas is now Trump's worst nightmare

[ludin]

I repeat, unlike what the nitwit, WH Press Sec said, Lev has actually exposed himself MORE legally in going public. He has no cooperation agreement probably thanks to Bill Barr.

Lev is not trying to protect against prosecution. Everything he is saying can be held against him in a court of Law. If anything he is trying to get as much into the public domain as possible in an effort to avoid being fitted for a pair of cement overshoes. Our criminal President and his malignant pathologies are the real threat to Lev.

As far as Lev trying to push the envelop and force a cooperation agreement out of somebody, that would be the Hail Mary pass of Hail Mary passes at this point.

Parnas is a known liar and fraud. he has shown that he will do and say anything.
schiff is a known liar and fraud he is has proven that he will do and say anything in order to try and impeach trump.
in fact he won head of his committee chair based on that fact alone.

So when we put two people that love to lie and committ fraud together do you honestly think that we can trust any information?
why did schiff not release all of the information and only cherry pick once again what was released?

yeah don't question
don't expect honesty.
as long as it is anti-trump slurp it down.
obey


everything that he listed was nothing but a projection of what you people do.

also there is a quote button for a reason. not that you care about honest discussion.
Unlike you i am waiting to see the full information and facts.

just like maddow schiff has been known and it has been proven that he cannot be trusted to
release the full information.

just like he didn't call one of the most important people to the stand which is the guy in charge of the money.
why did he not testify? ol yea because he told everyone that the money was held up for a legal reason.

that is why his testimony was buried in a stack of other stuff and why he was never called openly to testify at
the hearing.

 

[jnug]

Parnas is a known liar and fraud. he has shown that he will do and say anything.
schiff is a known liar and fraud he is has proven that he will do and say anything in order to try and impeach trump.
in fact he won head of his committee chair based on that fact alone.

So when we put two people that love to lie and committ fraud together do you honestly think that we can trust any information?
why did schiff not release all of the information and only cherry pick once again what was released?

yeah don't question
don't expect honesty.
as long as it is anti-trump slurp it down.
obey


everything that he listed was nothing but a projection of what you people do.

also there is a quote button for a reason. not that you care about honest discussion.
Unlike you i am waiting to see the full information and facts.

just like maddow schiff has been known and it has been proven that he cannot be trusted to
release the full information.

just like he didn't call one of the most important people to the stand which is the guy in charge of the money.
why did he not testify? ol yea because he told everyone that the money was held up for a legal reason.

that is why his testimony was buried in a stack of other stuff and why he was never called openly to testify at
the hearing.

So is Trump. They are a perfect pair aren't they?

As for why Lev was not called, he was not called because his is an ongoing prosecution. The House really just wanted his documents and his phone records out of SDNY as they are the actual evidence here. They really don't want him because he is part of an ongoing prosecution. They would have needed an indication from Lev that he would be wiling to testify without benefit of a Congressional Immunity. They would not have held out a Congressional Immunity to Lev with an active prosecution in process. That Lev has decided to go public having handed over the documents is all Lev. Congress has nothing to do with that.

 

[ludin]

So is Trump. They are a perfect pair aren't they?

congrats on not reading my post.

 

[VanceMack]

Hmmm...where have we seen this in the past..........

Oh...thats right...

 

[jnug]

congrats on not reading my post.

Oh you said somewhere in your post that Trump is a known liar and fraud? Gee I guess I missed that.

 

[jmotivator]

Lev Parnas was seeking to oust the ambassador long before he claimed on Maddow.

I mean, it showed up in his own indictment that he had been seeking to oust the ambassador at the behest of "Congressman-1" and "Ukrainian government officials"...

 

[jnug]

Lev Parnas was seeking to oust the ambassador long before he claimed on Maddow.

I mean, it showed up in his own indictment that he had been seeking to oust the ambassador at the behest of "Congressman-1" and "Ukrainian government officials"...

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The Ukraine government official in question was ex-Prosecutor Lutsenko who Lev discussed extensively. How far back do you want to go?

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Documents don't lie. Parnas is a fraud and a clown but he has nothing left to lose telling the truth. Trust him with caution. That being said, documents and text messages are legit.

Trump done ****ed up, and there is no reasonable explanation for some of this stuff.

1. Why didn't Trump just fire Yovanovitch?

2. Why didn't Trump have Barr use the LE we have to investigate Biden back in 2016?

I do not believe in coincidence. But I believe the evidence says something like this; Yovanovitch was legit in her crusade against corruption in the Ukraine (irrefuted.) Trump and Giuliani were working with corrupt Ukrainians upset at losing power (irrefuted). Trump had two choices. Fire Yovanovitch legitimately, since the ambassador serves at the behest and pleasure of the president; or, construct a fake narrative to support the idea that the PREVIOUS regime and investigators were NOT corrupt, and that Yovanovitch was an obstacle to clearing corruption, which requires massive suspension of belief of evidence and precedent.

Trump chose the second. He chose to besmirch and smear her record. Attack her as an individual. Resorted to petty shaming and blacklisting. Why? No conservative has answered this yet. Not one.

No one can give me a reasonable explanation for why Trump didn't just replace her and avoid this whole thing - because the answer is this - he KNEW what he was doing was corrupt - he KNEW what he was doing was illegal. He KNEW what he was doing was unethical and merited removal. So he had to try and smear Yovanovitch to make the case she had to be removed, to support his false narrative about her and Ukraine.

You know the right will claim Parnas is a fraud, a thug, a criminal, and in typical dishonest and idiotic fashion, they don't question why Parnas was working with Trump and his people? Because Trump is a criminal and a fraud

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Parnas is a known liar and fraud. he has shown that he will do and say anything.
schiff is a known liar and fraud he is has proven that he will do and say anything in order to try and impeach trump.
in fact he won head of his committee chair based on that fact alone.

So when we put two people that love to lie and committ fraud together do you honestly think that we can trust any information?
why did schiff not release all of the information and only cherry pick once again what was released?

yeah don't question
don't expect honesty.
as long as it is anti-trump slurp it down.
obey


everything that he listed was nothing but a projection of what you people do.

also there is a quote button for a reason. not that you care about honest discussion.
Unlike you i am waiting to see the full information and facts.

just like maddow schiff has been known and it has been proven that he cannot be trusted to
release the full information.

just like he didn't call one of the most important people to the stand which is the guy in charge of the money.
why did he not testify? ol yea because he told everyone that the money was held up for a legal reason.

that is why his testimony was buried in a stack of other stuff and why he was never called openly to testify at
the hearing.

And yet, they all worked with Trump. Who is a fraud and a liar. Glad your finally on board with what a POS Trump is

 

[KLATTU]

I just thought it was funny when I read your post and got deja vu like didn't I read the exact same thing just a couple minutes ago.

I don't usually check to see if it's been copies because most people here have integrity to source something if they copy it or probably use their own brains to come up with an original post.

If I saw something that I thought I had seen before, I wouldn't give it a second's thought.Weird what preoccupies some people.

 

[Sampson Simpson]

congrats on not reading my post.

Nobody reads your posts because your trolling is really ****ty and your posts complete fiction. ANd you never read anything anyway, so as usual, bad trolls just project constantly

 

[jnug]

You know the right will claim Parnas is a fraud, a thug, a criminal, and in typical dishonest and idiotic fashion, they don't question why Parnas was working with Trump and his people? Because Trump is a criminal and a fraud

Like I said, what Congress wanted was Lev's phone records and his documents, not necessarily him as he is engaged in an ongoing prosecution. Congress got what they wanted out of Lev though it took awhile.

Phone records and documents don't make for interesting television but they fill in the holes and connect the dots in this case. I am not convinced that the Congress will ever want Lev to testify as they will not want to grant him a Congressional Immunity while he is engaged in an on ongoing prosecution and the Impeachment trial will be over long before Lev's prosecution is over. I am sure Lev's attorney knows that.

If anything Lev is just trying to keep from being fitted for a pair of cement overshoes and wants to get as much on the record and in the public domain in any medium possible to protect himself.

 

[element94]

my spidey senses tell me we should wait for everything he claimed to be corroborated. Parnas is a thug who's been perfectly happy playing with bad people for a long time, and we don't know yet whose game he's playing.

I think we should exercise as much caution here as we exercised when waiting to see if we could actually trust michael cohen.

lololol

 

[j brown's body]

If it turns out to be true, it certainly won't be surprising. Trump is surrounded by people who feel he can do whatever he wants, and of course, with thugs. He is a thug.

 

[element94]

Your emotions are overcoming your logic.

My logic told me Trump was corrupt waaaay before he was President, and the evidence of it continues to come out with increasing frequency.
Hearsay, you guys like that word, but it ain't gonna save you, because Parnas was their man, acting on their orders: Trump to Giuliani to Parnas, and Parnas has the connecting evidence. Not good for Donny, not good at all!

 

[bongsaway]

your projections are fallacies. do not realize this?

Really? All I hear from trump and his supporters is this whole thing is a hoax, a witch hunt. Are you telling me it's not?

 

[Piglet]

My logic told me Trump was corrupt waaaay before he was President, and the evidence of it continues to come out with increasing frequency.
Hearsay, you guys like that word, but it ain't gonna save you, because Parnas was their man, acting on their orders: Trump to Giuliani to Parnas, and Parnas has the connecting evidence. Not good for Donny, not good at all!

I heard much the same thing when Trump was running against Hillary -- all the predictions that he could never win. Then I heard similar claims all throughout the Mueller investigation. Now this.

Forgive me if I just roll my eyes and shake my head.

 

[Obscurity]

You know the right will claim Parnas is a fraud, a thug, a criminal, and in typical dishonest and idiotic fashion, they don't question why Parnas was working with Trump and his people? Because Trump is a criminal and a fraud

He IS A fraud, and a criminal and a thug and dishonest.

That's not in dispute.

 

[element94]

I heard much the same thing when Trump was running against Hillary -- all the predictions that he could never win. Then I heard similar claims all throughout the Mueller investigation. Now this.

Forgive me if I just roll my eyes and shake my head.

This isn't about whether or not he can win, of course he can win with enough faithful-until-the-end dogs like yourself. It's about corruption, and you support it, because it is beyond denying now.
I thought the Senate trial was already over with the coverup, but that just got a lot harder to move forward with.

 

[Piglet]

This isn't about whether or not he can win, of course he can win with enough faithful-until-the-end dogs like yourself. It's about corruption, and you support it, because it is beyond denying now.
I thought the Senate trial was already over with the coverup, but that just got a lot harder to move forward with.

Keep telling yourself that. To me, it sounds like more of the status quo.

 

[element94]

Keep telling yourself that. To me, it sounds like more of the status quo.

I'm telling you.

 

[TomFitz]

I repeat, unlike what the nitwit, WH Press Sec said, Lev has actually exposed himself MORE legally in going public. He has no cooperation agreement probably thanks to Bill Barr.

Lev is not trying to protect against prosecution. Everything he is saying can be held against him in a court of Law. If anything he is trying to get as much into the public domain as possible in an effort to avoid being fitted for a pair of cement overshoes. Our criminal President and his malignant pathologies are the real threat to Lev.

As far as Lev trying to push the envelop and force a cooperation agreement out of somebody, that would be the Hail Mary pass of Hail Mary passes at this point with Bill Barr as AG.

I have a suspicion that Trump had more to do that than Barr.

This is a pattern with him. One of his flunkies gets caught, and he does the “hardly knew the guy” act.

Anyone who owns a television has seen Trump do this repeatedly over the last three years. He did it during his Presidential campaign, first to Corey Lewendowski, and then, famously, to Paul Manafort.

 

[TomFitz]

Parnas is a known liar and fraud. he has shown that he will do and say anything.
schiff is a known liar and fraud he is has proven that he will do and say anything in order to try and impeach trump.
in fact he won head of his committee chair based on that fact alone.

So when we put two people that love to lie and committ fraud together do you honestly think that we can trust any information?
why did schiff not release all of the information and only cherry pick once again what was released?

yeah don't question
don't expect honesty.
as long as it is anti-trump slurp it down.
obey


everything that he listed was nothing but a projection of what you people do.

also there is a quote button for a reason. not that you care about honest discussion.
Unlike you i am waiting to see the full information and facts.

just like maddow schiff has been known and it has been proven that he cannot be trusted to
release the full information.

just like he didn't call one of the most important people to the stand which is the guy in charge of the money.
why did he not testify? ol yea because he told everyone that the money was held up for a legal reason.

that is why his testimony was buried in a stack of other stuff and why he was never called openly to testify at
the hearing.

I didn’t bother with most of your post other than the first and last paragraphs.

Your last paragraph is false. The House did supboena Parnas. He is one of the witnesses that Trump is hiding by order.

Your first paragraph is quite probably true.

The only hesitation Parnas might have on that score, was to make sure he knew what he was getting out of it.

 

[OscarLevant]

Maddow went for it hook line and sinker on the day the impeachment articles were delivered to the Senate.





Roberts not speaking up for the three branches of the government, ie, American Tricameralism, means Roberts gets what he deserves unless or until he does speak up for it. Problematical at best.

Pompeo's been letting his armband show more and more since he went to State. Zelensky getting elected made Trump be a bad boy and go quid pro quo which started this whole thingy.

Parmas seemed more ticked at Buffalo Bill Barr for not quashing the indictment against him by sdny. Yet if half of what Parmas says is true it's still BIG if not huge, but that's if. If Parmas whole story which is huge is airtight then it's probably an indicator it was spun somewhere else. If Parmas story can be picked apart for an inconsistency here or there then it's probably an indication of simple human error in recalling and trying to present real events, events that are complicated and interwoven in real life.

Plus Parmas is fluent in English whereas his partner is much less so. Parmas being fluent in English makes his understanding of things said and done in English more credible, to include a silent look or glance in context.

Yet Parmas has added a lot of confusion to the already existing chaos so we can be sure Putin is happier for it whether Putin has a hand in it directly or not. Parmas needs to be checked out forthwith. I've seen stuff that says Parmas did business back in Ukraine with Michael Cohen's father in law and that Cohen is encouraging Parmas.

Well, it does put Barr as a witness, and so he must recuse himself. But, of course, he won't do that, he's too much of a Trump butt kisser.

 

[OscarLevant]

Nothing he said in the interview is acceptable testimony -- it's all hearsay. He made the comment that he knew what Trump knew but he never communicated with Trump.

He was a direct witness. You have no idea what constitutes 'acceptable testimony'.