Let’s pretend that we are the founding fathers righting the bill of rights and constitution

[Irwin Corey]

I would submit an article that would make it illegal for any elected official to knowingly lie to his constituency.

Argument to support?

It's common ****in sense.

Campaign contribution limits on amount (which would have to adjustments for inflation built in) and to Living Human Beings that are Citizens of The United States and of legal voting age.

Term limits for all elected and appointed Federal office's.

Specific prohibition of privately held Central Banking, strict limits on the size of any bank (system/corporation) prohibiting them from going across state lines and alliances that would subvert this provision.

Prohibition of Federal Income taxes.

Strict anti-trust laws and limits on scope and size of corporations.

Strict rules on leasing natural resources and land so that they remain a NATIONAL resource that all AmeriCANs benefit from, the revenue generated to provide for education, retirement and health benefits of all and construction and maintenance of national infrastructure projects; that cannot EVER in anyway be siphoned off for other programs. This may be a revenue source for financing free beer (joking but this would be the peoples money).

Prohibition of taxing individuals, localities and States and then redistributing those monies back to individuals, localities and States to control how the money is used.

 

[humbolt]

I absolutely support you on this but I do need ask, who pays? Nothing is "free" and as much as I'd like to have beer as a right before I vote in the affirmative I need to know how it gets paid for.

Same way we pay for "free" anything. Hang on. There's something wrong there. Why are we paying for free stuff? Somebody's lying here. I'll get to the bottom of this.

 

[Babykat]

I would submit an article that would make it illegal for any elected official to knowingly lie to his constituency.

Argument to support?

It's common ****in sense.

That sounds awesome write up to include how we are going to enforce it and detect liars. Also punishment for breaking said law.


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[humbolt]

So wealthy people don't get free beer, their money gets taken and used to buy others beer. Sounds like democratic socialism to me. No thanks.

True. In reality, every thing in life demands a quid pro quo.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Sounds good. I’m stuck in a disaster zone right now. So there isn’t much for me to do.


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I am not sure that I know how to write this in proper "legalese" or "constitutionalese" but in layman's terms it would need to assert and confirm that, for constitutional purposes, a person is a single viable living individual of flesh and blood, and that no organized artificial construct or corporate group may be defined or present themselves as a single individual person for public, civic or political purposes, and that such corporate personhood is restricted to business and commercial contractual obligations only.

I'm well aware of the possibility that this may also impact the political aspirations of unions, but I believe that a level playing field is just that, a LEVEL playing field, and what's good for the goose is also good for the gander.

Not being an expert on constitutional law or any kind of attorney whatsoever, I may have unintentionally created a minefield, so I am counting on smarter and brighter persons than myself to alert me as to any pitfalls or unintended consequences which might arise as a result.

Be kind, it's not every day someone is asked to write a constitutional amendment!

 

[AlbqOwl]

What I would like to see in this tread is people submitting constitutional articles or amendments with an argument to support it. Others can debate against it or vote for it. With 10 votes it is ratified. But please keep in mind your main objective is to support your individual states and keep as much power as you can at the state level.


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The courts will have no power to overturn or change any law or to write any law and will judge all matters on the letter and intent of existing law. The court can write opinion on how a law conflicts with the State or Federal Constitution, but it is then up to the legislative authority to rescind or amend the law. If the law is silent, then so is the court.

 

[noonereal]

That sounds awesome write up to include how we are going to enforce it and detect liars. Also punishment for breaking said law.


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Easy, either by a preponderance of the evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt

penalty? Public execution.

 

[D_NATURED]

So what I’m hearing from both of you is only legal individual citizens hold the rights of citizenship. (Rights of citizenship meaning rights to vote, propose bills, run for office and other wise influence government) and No organization or group can hold the rights of citizenship. How would this effect political parts being they are groups.


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Political parties don't lobby and bribe themselves. If we get these corporate "persons" out of the game, their dirty money will go with them. At that point, our representatives will have to represent US, not them.

Certainly, you must see the contradiction of setting up a representative government, of, by and for the people that, ultimately, just represents the moneyed interests, not people at all.

 

[D_NATURED]

Same way we pay for "free" anything. Hang on. There's something wrong there. Why are we paying for free stuff? Somebody's lying here. I'll get to the bottom of this.

The liars are right wing demagogues who use the straw man"free stuff" to describe the social safety net. Indeed, nothing is free and everyone knows it.

Who should pay for it? All of us, especially the rich.

 

[Deuce]

Term limits would actually be counterproductive. We need people who know their jobs.

*votes for a guy with zero governing experience to sit in the most important government seat on the planet*

 

[Moderate Right]

*votes for a guy with zero governing experience to sit in the most important government seat on the planet*

*didn't vote for a guy with zero governing experience to sit in the most important government seat on the planet*

 

[Athanasius68]

I would have an ammendment stating that, legally, a "person" cannot be a corporation or any group of people, can only be a sentient, biological entity and that any non-persons are restricted from political speech, lobbying and voting.

Abolishing political parties...?