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Lactatia: Obvious Child Abuse

Comparing what adults do to what children do is ridiculous...not the same thing at all...children are still growing and developing, are easily influenced, which is why they need parents to guide and direct them...adults are free to make their own decisions in life...
 
Elvira said:
Comparing what adults do to what children do is ridiculous...not the same thing at all...children are still growing and developing, are easily influenced, which is why they need parents to guide and direct them...adults are free to make their own decisions in life...
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And can I assume you believe that this little boy is being guided and directed in the wrong direction? Which, if so, is entirely your opinion and your right to express it. I'd disagree, and so, presumably, would his parents.
 
Elvira said:
Comparing what adults do to what children do is ridiculous...not the same thing at all...children are still growing and developing, are easily influenced, which is why they need parents to guide and direct them...adults are free to make their own decisions in life...
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I don't presume you know that this is under the influence of the parents. Sure they might encourage it, but that is really their business.
 
Andalublue said:
Maybe things are very different over here, but there's a real tradition of straight men in drag in British entertainment. In pantomime the dame role is always taken by a man, usually a straight man. That's kinda the joke, a hairy arsed bloke in a dress.
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There are difference between drag queens, cross dressers and actors in drag. They do not dress as they do for the same reasons.
 
Kal'Stang said:
All I can say is that whoever did this kids makeup needs to take lessons on how to do makeup. Seriously, that's just awful.
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But drag queens are a mockery of women. Overdone make-up and clothing is actually a mockery. The drag queens are really misogynists.
 
LadyMoonlight said:
But drag queens are a mockery of women. Overdone make-up and clothing is actually a mockery. The drag queens are really misogynists.
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:cuckoo:
 
maquiscat said:
There are difference between drag queens, cross dressers and actors in drag. They do not dress as they do for the same reasons.
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This is true. I just wasn't sure the extent to which the full spectrum of men in frocks was familiar to everyone. So:

  • RuPaul, Lily Savage, DWV = drag queens
  • Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie, Jack Lemmon/Tony Curtis in Some Like It Hot = actors in drag
  • Grayson Perry, Jaye Davidson in The Crying Game = cross-dresser

I suppose you could say that every drag queen drags up, but not everyone who drags up is a drag queen.
 
LadyMoonlight said:
But drag queens are a mockery of women. Overdone make-up and clothing is actually a mockery. The drag queens are really misogynists.
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I've heard that argument before. Way back in the Eighties radical feminist lesbians would make this silly point. Drag queens aren't pretending to be women. If they were, why would they make their outfits and make-up so overblown. "To mock women", you say. You're so wrong. If anything, it is ironically sending up male ideas of femininity. It's often extremely self-deprecating and, IMHO, if it ever does lurch into misogynistic parody, as it rarely, but occasionally does, it's very obvious and usually called out for being 'bad drag', definitely not 'fantabulosa!', to which all good drag aspires.
 
A lot of posters in here are begging the question.

A lot of "shouldn't force a child to do this" without any evidence of that being the case. Fundamentally, to make your point, you must distinguish how you determine what activities children do are "forced upon them" and which are not.

Most psychologist agree that girls were pink and boys were blue because society forces that tradition on to them, but no one bats an eyelash. I would argue a boy who's activities defy the norm is probably acting out his true desire more so than a boy who is playing with trucks simply because every other boy plays with trucks.
 
I doubt the parents are forcing this on the child but they are encouraging it, that's for sure...
 
How's this all that diferent than this JonBenét Patricia Ramseyish dolling little girls up for pageants bit again?
 
CLAX1911 said:
A drag queen is typically a gay man that isn't transgender. I suppose some of them could be straight I've just never met one that was. This seems to be a form of Cosplay.



I think the best people to deal with this issue if it even is are his parents.
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I think it's common for drag queens to be gay, but it's certainly not a requirement.
 
Zinthaniel said:
A lot of posters in here are begging the question.

A lot of "shouldn't force a child to do this" without any evidence of that being the case. Fundamentally, to make your point, you must distinguish how you determine what activities children do are "forced upon them" and which are not.

Most psychologist agree that girls were pink and boys were blue because society forces that tradition on to them, but no one bats an eyelash. I would argue a boy who's activities defy the norm is probably acting out his true desire more so than a boy who is playing with trucks simply because every other boy plays with trucks.
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At one point, pink was for boys and blue for girls. There is so much that we construct for what is supposedly natural for males of females. Ultimately very little is.
 
maquiscat said:
At one point, pink was for boys and blue for girls. There is so much that we construct for what is supposedly natural for males of females. Ultimately very little is.
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And once again, it comes out of this partriarchal male dominator god perceptual reality.
 
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