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Kudos to Japan

1. Thank you for sharing that (depressing) information.

2. I am keenly disappointed that Japanese leaders have decided to go down that road.

3. Hopefully, when the Japanese people start to see the effects of that new policy on their harmonious society, they will vote in new leaders who put the brakes on such changes.


Have a nice weekend.

Something has to be done about Japan's demographic issues. They need immigrants and they seem to have a plan to integreate them successfully. What do you suggest they do?
 
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Something has to be done about Japan's demographic issues. They need immigrants and they seem to have a plan to integreate them successfully. What do you suggest they do?

Hi.

I do NOT know what they should do.

I do remember reading that some Japanese thinkers feel that there IS a way without resorting to immigration. But I have forgotten their plan.

Immigration is, of course, a hot potato, so I will end this post with these words: IMHO (repeat: opinion) Japan's famed cultural harmony will be negatively impacted if the policy is put into effect.


Have a nice weekend!
 
Hi.

I do NOT know what they should do.

I do remember reading that some Japanese thinkers feel that there IS a way without resorting to immigration. But I have forgotten their plan.

Immigration is, of course, a hot potato, so I will end this post with these words: IMHO (repeat: opinion) Japan's famed cultural harmony will be negatively impacted if the policy is put into effect.


Have a nice weekend!

What exactly is the danger to Japanese culture if immigrants are integrated? There are only two solutions, immigration or increasing births. You would have to restructure the entirety of Japanese society for the latter and that will take at minimum two generations to work and will require a lot of political will and money the Japanese just do not have. Japan does need those reforms like actually enforcing working hour regulations, increasing participation of women in the economy, creating affordable housing, reforming education, creating incentives for having children, and many others.
 
What exactly is the danger to Japanese culture if immigrants are integrated? There are only two solutions, immigration or increasing births. You would have to restructure the entirety of Japanese society for the latter and that will take at minimum two generations to work and will require a lot of political will and money the Japanese just do not have. Japan does need those reforms like actually enforcing working hour regulations, increasing participation of women in the economy, creating affordable housing, reforming education, creating incentives for having children, and many others.
I love the chutzpah of our Western Liberal Democracy!
What is the danger you ask? Answer: extinction.

There are only two solutions, immigration or increasing births.
There's a third option in traditional Japanese culture: seppuku.
Extinction with honor.
 
And what does western liberal democratic chutzpah know of this cultural condition?

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Shinto
 
I want to know what it means to absorb Shinto as one's cultural heritage.

not sure you can gain that understanding without living among it

to me, the closest comparison would be with native American faith practices
 
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Sex Every Afternoon: Pink Film and the Body of Pornographic Cinema in Japan
by
Michael John Arnold

Chapter 1 History: Legends of the Pink Margin

The theatrical soft-core pornographic film industry of Japan is perhaps one of the most unusual commercial film production systems in the world. The industry formed in the early 1960s as a form of low-budget, adult oriented, and semi-independent film production that filled theaters as television spread and mainstream movie attendance declined. Identified in public discourse with a term coined by journalist Murai Minoru in 1963,1 these Pink Films (pinku eiga) still linger on the screens of dozens of Japan’s darkest, dungiest movie theaters today.

Until recently, the Pink industry was capable of producing scores or hundreds of new productions a year. Only a short time after Pink Film’s inauguration, mushrooming independent production companies produced an output nearly overwhelming the number of releases from the major studios.2 For half a century, this prolific industry has managed to supply a wide variety of genres and stories that rival and in some ways surpass the diversity of mainstream Japanese films in domestic release: anything from melodramatic period films to psychedelic neo-horror stories, lighthearted comedies about the day to day life of businessmen in the capital, feverish tales of sadism and sexual power, and even the kinds of politically or visually experimental offerings that tempt the desires of international film festivals.
https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/116708/maiku_1.pdf
 
not sure you can gain that understanding without living among it

to me, the closest comparison would be with native American faith practices
You're perfectly correct. That was my point.
 
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Pink Bodies:
On the Aesthetic and Ideological Dimensions of the Female Body in Japanese Pink Cinema

by Frédéric St-Hilaire

Abstract:
Pink cinema, a genre of erotic Japanese film that emerged in the early 60s, has exerted a large influence on Japanese cinematic history both stylistically and industrially. Known for its short length, small budgets and presence of erotic elements like nudity and sex scenes, Pink
film has surprisingly been understudied in the West given its large span (its heydays lasted from the late 60s to the late 80s) and impressive production (at its height in the late 70s it accounted for 70% of Japanese cinematic production). This thesis seeks to rectify this by
taking a chronological look at Pink cinema in relation to its main iconographic concern, the female body. To do this, this thesis will engage with genre theory as well as feminist theories of abjection allied with close analysis of key films over the years to understand the aesthetic
and ideological underpinnings of the genre.
https://curve.carleton.ca/system/fi...iesontheaestheticandideologicaldimensions.pdf
 
Japan is going extinct, laudable as this one case is, it's not enough for their own country.

Japan's Population Is In Rapid Decline : NPR

Japan needs to become a lot more open to change and take in WAY more immigrants than they are currently. Their baby boom happened before WW2, so all those people are dying now, which not even an accelerated birth rate would be sufficient to repair. Which is unlikely, given that Japan's young people are having the least amount of sex of probably any major country. How are they going to afford social services for the elderly if they don't get workers in who can earn an income and help provide for this society?

They likely don't want to open up because preserving their culture is very important to them. Bringing in people from other places would dilute them. They aren't a melting pot like the United States. Although the United States is getting a little touchy about culture. With the whole appropriation thing.
 
They likely don't want to open up because preserving their culture is very important to them. Bringing in people from other places would dilute them. They aren't a melting pot like the United States. Although the United States is getting a little touchy about culture. With the whole appropriation thing.

1. Let's all hope that they do NOT open up. It would be one of the greatest tragedies in the history of personkind.


2. Haven't you heard? Many textbooks no longer describe this country as a "melting pot." It is now a "salad bowl," that is to say, groups X, Y, and Z live in the same country, but each group maintains its particular identity. Forget the idea of "As American as apple pie." That pie now has at least three fruits!
 
1. Let's all hope that they do NOT open up. It would be one of the greatest tragedies in the history of personkind.


2. Haven't you heard? Many textbooks no longer describe this country as a "melting pot." It is now a "salad bowl," that is to say, groups X, Y, and Z live in the same country, but each group maintains its particular identity. Forget the idea of "As American as apple pie." That pie now has at least three fruits!

Text books try, but it's still a melting pot. That can't change if it does our culture dies.
 
From Melting Pot to Rich Fondue

From Drama to Dream to Melodrama

In search of a new metaphor for America

by

TheParser
CLAX1911
Angel



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The melting pot is a monocultural metaphor for a heterogeneous society becoming more homogeneous, the different elements "melting together" with a common culture or vice versa, for a homogeneous society becoming more heterogeneous through the influx of foreign elements with different cultural backgrounds, possessing the potential to create disharmony within the previous culture. Historically, it is often used to describe the assimilation of immigrants to the United States.

The melting-together metaphor was in use by the 1780s. The exact term "melting pot" came into general usage in the United States after it was used as a metaphor describing a fusion of nationalities, cultures and ethnicities in the 1908 play of the same name.
Melting pot - Wikipedia

melting pot
1. A crucible, or similar pot, used to fuse mixtures of metals etc.
2. (idiomatic) A place where many divergent things (often races or cultures, but also talents) come together and are homogenized.
melting pot - Wiktionary

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The First Melting Pot

The first Melting Pot opened in April of 1975 in Maitland, Fla., just outside of Orlando. It was a cozy, quaint location, and its first menu consisted of just three items: Swiss cheese fondue, beef fondue and a chocolate fondue dessert. However, as the restaurant's popularity expanded, so did its menu and ambiance.

Mark Johnston, who was working his way through college as a waiter at The Melting Pot, noticed the popularity boost and, with the help of his brothers Mike and Bob, scraped together funding to open The Melting Pot of Tallahassee in 1979 (with the blessing of the original owners in Maitland...of course). The Tallahassee location grew enormously popular, and within one year, its success paved the way for future franchise expansion.

Building A Close Knit Fondue Family

From the start, the Johnston brothers were diligent in their search for energetic entrepreneurs who were as excited as they were about the concept and its potential. Their commitment to building a close knit fondue family proved successful.
The Melting Pot - The Original Fondue Restaurant

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Fondue (au fromage) ... is a Swiss melted cheese dish served in a communal pot (caquelon or fondue pot) over a portable stove (réchaud) heated with a candle or spirit lamp, and eaten by dipping bread into the cheese using long-stemmed forks. It was promoted as a Swiss national dish by the Swiss Cheese Union (Schweizerische Käseunion) in the 1930s, and was popularized in North America in the 1960s.

Since the 1950s, the term "fondue" has been generalized to other dishes in which a food is dipped into a communal pot of liquid kept hot in a fondue pot: chocolate fondue, fondue au chocolat, in which pieces of fruit or pastry are dipped into a melted chocolate mixture, and fondue bourguignonne, in which pieces of meat are cooked in hot oil or broth.
Fondue - Wikipedia

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I took leave to be a bit playful, gentlemen, seeing as you two have shown yourselves to be members of the Party of Reason and endowed with a sense of fun as well.
They likely don't want to open up because preserving their culture is very important to them. Bringing in people from other places would dilute them. They aren't a melting pot like the United States. Although the United States is getting a little touchy about culture. With the whole appropriation thing.

1. Let's all hope that they do NOT open up. It would be one of the greatest tragedies in the history of personkind.


2. Haven't you heard? Many textbooks no longer describe this country as a "melting pot." It is now a "salad bowl," that is to say, groups X, Y, and Z live in the same country, but each group maintains its particular identity. Forget the idea of "As American as apple pie." That pie now has at least three fruits!

Text books try, but it's still a melting pot. That can't change if it does our culture dies.
 
Quote of the Day

"The tragic irony of the diversity argument is that it entails the end of diversity in the world."
—Angel Trismegistus, Unexamined Lives


 
1. Thank you for sharing that (depressing) information.

2. I am keenly disappointed that Japanese leaders have decided to go down that road.

3. Hopefully, when the Japanese people start to see the effects of that new policy on their harmonious society, they will vote in new leaders who put the brakes on such changes.


Have a nice weekend.

I agree with you

Immigration adds unattended consequences . Just like with us

Instead of addressing to why there is so low fertility, they go and open up a whole another can of worms

History doesn't repeat it'self, but it sure rhymes

Twain
 
after living among them for four years, i would have to say that their xenophobism is not exceeded by any other asian culture, and it far exceeds that evidenced by the people of the southeast asian cultures


i will use the overused expression about the japanese belief that "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down" as applicable to this scenario. japan is a safe and efficient society ... as well as a xenophobic one rigidly adhering to the past


the japanese were the perfect audience for someone like Deming, who helped the auto manufacturers become state of the art by making consistent, incremental improvements. what we tend not to see emerge from the japanese society are innovative NEW ideas and approaches. that is what the USA and israel do well. i suspect being a melting pot allows such innovations to surface in a way not often found in japan
In my experience( based upon living in all of the mentioned countries) no Japans xenophobia is not exceeded by any other countries but it sure is matched. GOP spurned some time in Korea outside of soul. Or some time in China or Vietnam. All of them are fairly equal when it comes to that.

Its true Japanese culture in some ways is very conformist but in other ways not so much. Look at their fashion just as an example. No one else in the world could pull of some of the nonsense you see every day riding the Tokyo subway.
 
Because of censorship, or are you talking aesthetics?

Both. First obviously the censorship sucks. And secondly no one who is actually enjoying sec makes the kind of noises all women in Japanese porn make. Including Japanese women. It's one thing to be super vulgar and overt the top like in American porn but virtually every Japanese girl in porn sounds like she is about to start crying. That and the weird as hell fetishes that are in so much Japanese porn is just crazy
 
Both. First obviously the censorship sucks. And secondly no one who is actually enjoying sec makes the kind of noises all women in Japanese porn make. Including Japanese women. It's one thing to be super vulgar and overt the top like in American porn but virtually every Japanese girl in porn sounds like she is about to start crying. That and the weird as hell fetishes that are in so much Japanese porn is just crazy
I take your points, but I think they apply chiefly to the later stuff, the shot-on-video stuff. The early stuff, the stuff from the 70s, the 35mm stuff, the pinku and roman porno from that era, were very well done all around, or so I would argue.
 
Japanese Zen

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Japanese Zen
Zen is the Japanese variant of Chan Buddhism, a Mahayana school that strongly emphasizes dhyana, the meditative training of awareness and equanimity. This practice, according to Zen proponents, gives insight into one's true nature, or the emptiness of inherent existence, which opens the way to a liberated way of living.
Japanese Zen - Wikipedia

Japanese Zen Buddhist Philosophy
Zen aims at a perfection of personhood. To this end, sitting meditation called “za-zen” is employed as a foundational method of prāxis across the different schools of this Buddha-Way, through which the Zen practitioner attempts to embody non-discriminatory wisdom vis-à-vis the meditational experience known as “satori” (enlightenment). A process of discovering wisdom culminates in the experiential dimension in which the equality of thing-events is apprehended in discerning them. The most distinguishing feature of this school of the Buddha-Way is seen in its contention that wisdom, accompanied by compassion, is expressed in the everyday “life-world” when associating with one’s self, people, and nature. The everyday “life-world” for most people is an evanescent transforming stage in which living is consumed, philosophically speaking, by an either-or, ego-logical, dualistic paradigm of thinking with its attendant psychological states such as stress and anxiety. Zen demands an overcoming of this paradigm by practically achieving an holistic perspective in cognition, so that the Zen practitioner can celebrate, with a stillness of mind, a life of tending toward the concrete thing-events of everyday life and nature. For this reason, the Zen practitioner is required to embody freedom expressive of the original human nature.
Japanese Zen Buddhist Philosophy (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Ensō
Zen shares many symbols with other forms of Buddhism, but there are a few that are unique to Zen. (In this section, for simplicity's sake, the term Zen often includes Chan). The enso, for example, is a symbol that is often used to represent Zen. The enso is a circle drawn in a single brush stroke. It may be large, painted with a broad vigorous stoke, or it may be narrow and refined. It may be a perfect circle, or it may be imperfect in some way. An enso might seem simple to draw but only a few painters are known for their excellent enso, which are said to represent their mastery of Zen.

The enso carries a variety of meanings. It can symbolize emptiness or fullness, presence or absence. All things might be contained within, or, conversely, excluded by its boundaries. It can symbolize enlightenment, or it can symbolize the moon, which is itself a symbol of enlightenment—as in the Zen saying, "Do not mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself." (In other words, do not mistake doctrines, teachings, or explanations, which are intended to guide one toward enlightenment, for enlightenment itself.)
Zen - Symbolism

Ensō
The ensō symbolizes absolute enlightenment, strength, elegance, the universe, and mu (the void). It is characterised by a minimalism born of Japanese aesthetics.
Ensō - Wikipedia

What Does the Ensō Circle Mean?
In their wisdom and simplicity, Zen masters will state that an Enso Circle cannot be explained. It can only be experienced. Those who practice the art of the Enso will state that it is both simple and hard. Both of these statements explain this ancient Japanese art form perfectly.
What Does the Ensō Circle Mean? | The Zen Symbol Explained
 
Quote of the Day

"The tragic irony of the diversity argument is that it entails the end of diversity in the world."
—Angel Trismegistus, Unexamined Lives


What is this dumb **** even supposed to mean
 
What is this dumb **** even supposed to mean
Like, you actually expect this blatantly ignorant rudeness to be taken seriously? Only long irremediable experience in internet chat could induce such folly.
Peace out, pilgrim.
 
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