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Kosovo is Serbia

Tigerace117 said:
Because the Serbs had already committed genocide in Bosnia and were ramping up to do it again in Kosovo.
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So that means credit them the land that does not belong to them?
 
Serbia, a Slavic Orthodox Christian nation was a close ally of Russia and the CIS which followed the USSR. Western Europe and America wanted to weaken Serbia which with Soviet/Russian support was positioned to take over much, if not all, of former Yugoslavian territory in the former Yugoslavia by force if it desired to do so. Thus Europe led by Germany fostered break-away movements from the moribund Yugoslavia in Slovenia and Croatia. But things got out of control as both Croatian and Serbian militaries and paramilitaries began to use the brutal tactics of ethnic cleansing and ethnic massacre in their efforts to secure control of disputed lands they wanted. When Serbians got the upper hand in the Serbian-Croatian conflict and the struggle widened into Bosnia-Herzegovina, the West pushed harder and forced itself into the middle of the Yugoslavian civil war to limit Serbian gains and stop atrocities while Russia was weakened and could not effectively support its Slavic Allies in Serbia. The Serbs wouldn't back down and the UN wouldn't authorise the use of force except in self-defence so NATO and the USA resolved to attack Serbia. They did by intense air strikes. Serbia buckled and Peace Keeping Troops were sent in to deconflict the various enemy ethnic groups.

With the weakening of Serbia by NATO, Albanians began flooding into Kosovo which had had a substantial local Albanian majority population for years. The Albanians armed themselves and formed paramilitary units under the umbrella organisation the Kosovo Liberation Army. Albanians paramilitaries began attacking Kosovar Serbs in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. In reaction the Serbs sent into the former Yugoslavian province of Kosovo military and paramilitary forces which attacked both the KLA and Kosovar Albanians with savage fury in a counter ethnic cleansing campaign. While both sides committed grievous atrocities the West once again focused selectively upon the Serbian atrocities as a pretext to further weaken Serbia. Serbia proper was once again attacked by US-led NATO air strikes and again buckled. In the agreement to end the fighting the fate of the province of Kosovo was left purposefully vague, and later unclear directives of a possible future referendum on its status were drawn up despite vigorous objections from the Serbian state. While Albanians were allowed to continue to migrate to Kosovo, Serbs were not. Thus in time a very substantial Albanian majority was established before the referendum was held. The Albanians won the vote and the territory was ceded to Albania over Serbian objections.

So the answer to the OP's question was the West wanted to weaken pan-Slavism, Serbia and Russia and thus used the atrocities of the Yugoslavian Civil War selectively as a pretext to weaken Serbia by military action, despite heinous crimes being committed by all sides in this civil war. The removal of Kosovo was just the last step in this process of weakening and territorial dismemberment.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
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Daqueef said:
So that means credit them the land that does not belong to them?
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When you commit genocide, you can’t cry when others step in to stop you.

Germany lost a lot of land after World War Two due to that same reason.
 
Evilroddy said:
Serbia, a Slavic Orthodox Christian nation was a close ally of Russia and the CIS which followed the USSR. Western Europe and America wanted to weaken Serbia which with Soviet/Russian support was positioned to take over much, if not all, of former Yugoslavian territory in the former Yugoslavia by force if it desired to do so. Thus Europe led by Germany fostered break-away movements from the moribund Yugoslavia in Slovenia and Croatia. But things got out of control as both Croatian and Serbian militaries and paramilitaries began to use the brutal tactics of ethnic cleansing and ethnic massacre in their efforts to secure control of disputed lands they wanted. When Serbians got the upper hand in the Serbian-Croatian conflict and the struggle widened into Bosnia-Herzegovina, the West pushed harder and forced itself into the middle of the Yugoslavian civil war to limit Serbian gains and stop atrocities while Russia was weakened and could not effectively support its Slavic Allies in Serbia. The Serbs wouldn't back down and the UN wouldn't authorise the use of force except in self-defence so NATO and the USA resolved to attack Serbia. They did by intense air strikes. Serbia buckled and Peace Keeping Troops were sent in to deconflict the various enemy ethnic groups.

With the weakening of Serbia by NATO, Albanians began flooding into Kosovo which had had a substantial local Albanian majority population for years. The Albanians armed themselves and formed paramilitary units under the umbrella organisation the Kosovo Liberation Army. Albanians paramilitaries began attacking Kosovar Serbs in a campaign of ethnic cleansing. In reaction the Serbs sent into the former Yugoslavian province of Kosovo military and paramilitary forces which attacked both the KLA and Kosovar Albanians with savage fury in a counter ethnic cleansing campaign. While both sides committed grievous atrocities the West once again focused selectively upon the Serbian atrocities as a pretext to further weaken Serbia. Serbia proper was once again attacked by US-led NATO air strikes and again buckled. In the agreement to end the fighting the fate of the province of Kosovo was left purposefully vague, and later unclear directives of a possible future referendum on its status were drawn up despite vigorous objections from the Serbian state. While Albanians were allowed to continue to migrate to Kosovo, Serbs were not. Thus in time a very substantial Albanian majority was established before the referendum was held. The Albanians won the vote and the territory was ceded to Albania over Serbian objections.

So the answer to the OP's question was the West wanted to weaken pan-Slavism, Serbia and Russia and thus used the atrocities of the Yugoslavian Civil War selectively as a pretext to weaken Serbia by military action, despite heinous crimes being committed by all sides in this civil war. The removal of Kosovo was just the last step in this process of weakening and territorial dismemberment.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
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Didnt Albanians migrate a long time in Kosovo? Why did it take Serbs so long to fight back for their land? Its pretty confusing. Wasnt Miloseciv the leader at that time?
 
Daqueef said:
Didnt Albanians migrate a long time in Kosovo? Why did it take Serbs so long to fight back for their land? Its pretty confusing. Wasnt Miloseciv the leader at that time?
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Daqieef:

Yes, there had been an Albanian majority in Kosovo since before the land was conquered by Serbia in 1912. However the land of Kosovo reverted to Yugoslavian ownership after WWI. So Kosovo wasn't Serbian territory but was Yugoslavian territory. It was no longer exclusively Serbian territory. With the death of Marshal Tito in 1976 and the later rise of Slobodan Milosevic as the head of Serbia, the Serbians tried to reclaim their exclusive ownership of Kosovo but were unsuccessful due to military intervention.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
Evilroddy said:
Daqieef:

Yes, there had been an Albanian majority in Kosovo since before the land was conquered by Serbia in 1912. However the land of Kosovo reverted to Yugoslavian ownership after WWI. So Kosovo wasn't Serbian territory but was Yugoslavian territory. It was no longer exclusively Serbian territory. With the death of Marshal Tito in 1976 and the later rise of Slobodan Milosevic as the head of Serbia, the Serbians tried to reclaim their exclusive ownership of Kosovo but were unsuccessful due to military intervention.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
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After his death, that country went to crap. Tito was awesome.
 
"As for Kosovo, Russia’s position is unchanged. It has been repeatedly reiterated by President Vladimir Putin. We call for a viable, mutually acceptable solution between Belgrade and Pristina based on United Nations Security Council resolution 1244. Naturally, it must, first of all, be in line with international law and be approved by the UN Security Council," Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said. "We will accept such a solution that will be acceptable for the Serbs. We will extend all-round support to our Serbian friends to achieve this result.

We know about the results of the latest round of talks between [Serbian] President Aleksandar Vucic and [Kosovo’s] Prime Minister Albin Kurti, which was held in Brussels with the European Union’s mediation. No results were reached. On the contrary, we see a backsliding on the existing agreements, with tension in the north of Kosovo being still in place."

According to Lavrov, this is the result of the West’s policy, "which is geared to undermine all the principles of European security agreed within the OSCE." These principles envisage indivisible and equal security and Russia and Serbia are committed to them, he explained.

"We will insist on these approaches. The West’s policy toward breaking down its liabilities is continued, including on the Balkans and in the West-provoked situation in Ukraine."

tass.com

Russia calls for viable solution in Kosovo â Lavrov

The Russian foreign minister also noted that the EU-mediated talks between Serbian President and Kosovoâs Prime Minister, which were held in Brussels, have yielded no progress
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NATO’s peacekeeping force in Kosovo should “do their job” in protecting the Serb minority, or Belgrade will do it unilaterally, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic said on Sunday.

Vucic held a televised press conference after meeting a delegation of Kosovo Serbs, several days after the EU-brokered talks between Serbian and Kosovo leaders collapsed.

The crux of the dispute between the Balkan nation and its breakaway province is Kosovo’s push to declare Serbian identity documents and vehicle license plates invalid on its territory. As a result, tensions flared up in late July, with ethnic Serbs in northern Kosovo blocking roads and erecting barricades. After EU intervention, Kosovo agreed to postpone the measures until September 1.

“We have nowhere to go, we are cornered. We will save our people from persecution and pogroms, if NATO does not want to do it.”

Though Serbia and Kosovo are supposed to resume talks later this month, Vucic was not optimistic about defusing the crisis, arguing that the authorities in Pristina have rejected all “compromise solutions.”

“We shall seek a compromise in the next 10 days but I fear that the Rubicon has been crossed long ago,” he emphasized, accusing Kosovo of seeking “to finally remove the Serbian people” from the breakaway province, a statement that has been repeatedly denied by Pristina.

The Serbian president also criticized NATO for ramping up its presence in northern Kosovo, where about a half of all the local Serbs live. According to earlier media reports, the NATO-led Kosovo Force (KFOR) deployed a significant number of troops to two checkpoints at the border between Serbia and Kosovo, vowing to intervene if necessary. As of now, about 3,600 NATO troops are stationed in Kosovo.

Kosovo declared independence in 2008. However, Serbia, along with Russia and China, refused to recognize it. Moscow has accused the West of fueling the conflict between Belgrade and Pristina and pressuring Serbia to adopt anti-Russian sanctions supported by the EU. Kosovo blamed Russia for the escalation by claiming Moscow is seeking to distract international attention from its military offensive in Ukraine.

www.rt.com

Serbia issues warning to NATO

NATO should protect Kosovo’s Serbs, or Serbia will do it itself, according to the Serbian president
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In the 2005 general elections, the Democratic Party and its allies won a decisive victory on pledges of reducing crime and corruption, promoting economic growth, and decreasing the size of government. The election, and particularly the orderly transition of power, was considered an important step forward. Although Albania's economy continues to grow, the country is still one of the poorest in Europe, hampered by a large informal economy and an inadequate energy and transportation infrastructure. Albania has played a largely helpful role in managing inter-ethnic tensions in southeastern Europe, and is continuing to work toward joining NATO and the EU. Albania, with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, has been a strong supporter of the global war on terrorism.

Facts About Albania

Facts about Albania; the population, geography and economy.
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Was Kosovo at points in it's history a part of Serbia: Yes.
Is Kosovo today a part of Serbia: No.

Regarding the Kosovo Albanians, they became the majority population in Kosovo during the time most of the Balkans were under Ottoman rule and there was thus no border there, as in they over time migrated from one part of the Ottoman Empire to another.
 
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