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Kind of interesting, Small hands best and biggest supporters is our biggest enemy

my philosophy is to get rid of people who don't contribute or can't get past the no I'm not, you are routine, or the I don't like you and you are dumb routine > if people try to bring them back by commented to them to a point I feel that they are just trying to screw up my dumping them, they are gone also. This is the best way to deal with this problem.
 
By the way this thread is about president scum bag not Obama, not Clinton, not Roosevelt

No one can really identify what the thread is concisely about given the vague and unconvincing presentation.

If you cannot control your emotions how can you offer solutions?

If you have any evidence of wrongdoing please enlighten us. Sensible people are open to any evidence you may have in your possession that is currently unreported by sixteen intelligence agencies.

Caterwalling nonsensical posts are just noise.

Lets hear what comey has to day. I expect it will be yet another bust in a long line but we will see.
 
I have to add , I said the hate party just months ago said that Russia and Putin were a major enemy and massive amounts of verbiage was thrown into the idea that our military needs billions more because of the threat of Putin and Russia. I never said what the democrats thought at all. You people just can't debate about your scum bag hero without making your case on what someone else said or did. Thats just dumb.

There were Republicans that claimed that and there still are Republicans that claim that. Plenty of Republicans. So, if you're in agreement with them and they are the party of hate, then I guess it logically follows that you share in their hate.

I'm not Republican and I'm not a Democrat, so your Sunni vs Shia-like hatreds are something your two groups need to work out. If you all as individuals thought things for yourselves first, weighed different sides of the arguments, and arrived at a conclusion based on what arguments persuaded you most, them maybe your two rival religious factions might be less acrimonious.

But as it is... most the adherents of both your major religions simply accept what commandments are walked down by your religious leaders.

There are some Democrats and Republicans that don't do this. That's what resulted so many Democrats supporting Bernie Sanders and so many Republicans supporting Trump. They all believed something was wrong with the establishment politics.

I understand that you are deeply, deeply, hurt, emotionally wounded over years of Obama being bashed by Republicans. Your heart and soul was poured into him--as it would be for any religious leader elevated as Pope of that party--as if he were the Moses and you under him his Israelites.

Putin is a great leader and may go down as the greatest leader in all of Russian history. That statement does not imply he is a saint. Nor does it imply he is an evil man. What is most important to understand is he is Russian and within the Russian *political culture* he has not only been successful himself but he has accomplished to improve his country when it was on the brink of collapse. You see, in nothing I said does it imply Putin was a great political leader for Americans, for American domestic issues, or that he would ever have been successful in the political system and political culture of the United States of America.

When I took an intro. sociology course in college our text book noted in simplified terms that the bid difference between theology and sociology is that theology makes statements about how the world should be whereas in contrast sociology makes statements about how the world is. Now, admittedly, the text book oversimplified that as plenty branches of sociology assert how the world ought be and promote said changes. And likewise, theological discourse will accept that the world is oft x, y, or z way.

But the point I'm making is that Saudi Arabia has its own political system and political culture and both the United States and Russia have there own. Success and accomplishments in any of those nations politics is better judged on how well one does within the respective system and culture he or she is functioning politically in. So, I'm pointing out the Democrats LA with Skid Row. The Democrats. My view of Putin is that he would never tolerate that in one of Russia's largest, richest, and most internationally known cities if Russia could financially afford to resolve the issue. Keeping in mind how tiny Russian per capita GDP (wealth of the "average" citizen) is compared to that of the USA. Basically, Russia is still a "developing country."

 
There is only one country in the world that this country has to worry about. That would be Russia, your garbage about no sanctions is just that garbage. There is only one country who has weapons that exceed the abilities of this countries weapons. Not in number but in quality as far as its lethality is concerned. Ya I know the numbers about are military. The united states and it's main allies spend 3 out of every 4 dollars spent in the world on the military. But scum bag says we need more military. Their proposed budget bills over the last 8 years, all want massive amounts of money more spent on military.
Are you so blind to think that president scum bags ass holes where meeting Russians to protect us from a nuclear disaster. That my friend is really quite funny. The Orange monster has a whole party that he is leading around by the ring in their nose.

I think your post reflects why in the 21st century Americans are vastly behind a changing world were developing nations like India and Brazil are emerging as economic (and even regional powers) and even Russia getting back up on its feet. And why Americans are unfit to rule the world.

One well known African's view that the UN Security Council needs to be reformed:


Published on Oct 19, 2012

Kofi Annan, Former UN Secretary-General: It is indefensible today that India, Brazil, Africa and even Japan don't have permanent seats on the UN Security Council. This has to be changed or the Council will lose its influence and relevance.



Published on Jun 12, 2016

A look at why the UN Security Council is overseen by 5 member states - Russia, China, France, USA & the UK.



In this video below you will see that the UN court ruled in favor of Nicaragua against the United States, that the US was found by the UN court to have violate a fellow UN member-states rights (no member of the UN may use aggression, support rebels, or use sanctions against a fellow member-state of the UN. But assuming member-states in UN want to use any of these actions to punish another member-state, it only takes 1 of the 5 countries of the permanent Security Council to veto the action). The US vetoed anything by the UN court that tried to get the US to financially compensate Nicaragua in the billions.


What Are America's Violations Of International Law?

So, really, it is against International Law to place sanctions against Russia if Russia declines to be sanctioned. The same would apply to sanctions being placed against the USA, UK, France, or China.

Basically, the United States is attempting to act towards the whole of planet earth the way Democrats and a good chunk of Republicans complain Putin acts towards Russia.
 
I think your post reflects why in the 21st century Americans are vastly behind a changing world were developing nations like India and Brazil are emerging as economic (and even regional powers) and even Russia getting back up on its feet. And why Americans are unfit to rule the world.

One well known African's view that the UN Security Council needs to be reformed:










In this video below you will see that the UN court ruled in favor of Nicaragua against the United States, that the US was found by the UN court to have violate a fellow UN member-states rights (no member of the UN may use aggression, support rebels, or use sanctions against a fellow member-state of the UN. But assuming member-states in UN want to use any of these actions to punish another member-state, it only takes 1 of the 5 countries of the permanent Security Council to veto the action). The US vetoed anything by the UN court that tried to get the US to financially compensate Nicaragua in the billions.




So, really, it is against International Law to place sanctions against Russia if Russia declines to be sanctioned. The same would apply to sanctions being placed against the USA, UK, France, or China.

Basically, the United States is attempting to act towards the whole of planet earth the way Democrats and a good chunk of Republicans complain Putin acts towards Russia.
You really need to catch up the US and Europe are sanctioning Russia in a big way, where do you get the Idea that any of this has to go through The united nations. We have massive sanction today against Russia. No one can stop that. Catch up.
 
There were Republicans that claimed that and there still are Republicans that claim that. Plenty of Republicans. So, if you're in agreement with them and they are the party of hate, then I guess it logically follows that you share in their hate.

I'm not Republican and I'm not a Democrat, so your Sunni vs Shia-like hatreds are something your two groups need to work out. If you all as individuals thought things for yourselves first, weighed different sides of the arguments, and arrived at a conclusion based on what arguments persuaded you most, them maybe your two rival religious factions might be less acrimonious.

But as it is... most the adherents of both your major religions simply accept what commandments are walked down by your religious leaders.

There are some Democrats and Republicans that don't do this. That's what resulted so many Democrats supporting Bernie Sanders and so many Republicans supporting Trump. They all believed something was wrong with the establishment politics.

I understand that you are deeply, deeply, hurt, emotionally wounded over years of Obama being bashed by Republicans. Your heart and soul was poured into him--as it would be for any religious leader elevated as Pope of that party--as if he were the Moses and you under him his Israelites.

Putin is a great leader and may go down as the greatest leader in all of Russian history. That statement does not imply he is a saint. Nor does it imply he is an evil man. What is most important to understand is he is Russian and within the Russian *political culture* he has not only been successful himself but he has accomplished to improve his country when it was on the brink of collapse. You see, in nothing I said does it imply Putin was a great political leader for Americans, for American domestic issues, or that he would ever have been successful in the political system and political culture of the United States of America.

When I took an intro. sociology course in college our text book noted in simplified terms that the bid difference between theology and sociology is that theology makes statements about how the world should be whereas in contrast sociology makes statements about how the world is. Now, admittedly, the text book oversimplified that as plenty branches of sociology assert how the world ought be and promote said changes. And likewise, theological discourse will accept that the world is oft x, y, or z way.

But the point I'm making is that Saudi Arabia has its own political system and political culture and both the United States and Russia have there own. Success and accomplishments in any of those nations politics is better judged on how well one does within the respective system and culture he or she is functioning politically in. So, I'm pointing out the Democrats LA with Skid Row. The Democrats. My view of Putin is that he would never tolerate that in one of Russia's largest, richest, and most internationally known cities if Russia could financially afford to resolve the issue. Keeping in mind how tiny Russian per capita GDP (wealth of the "average" citizen) is compared to that of the USA. Basically, Russia is still a "developing country."

Thanks for the humor, 4 moths after The scum bag was voted in no one claims to have voted for him in fact few will even admit to be a republican, so I can hardly believe you on that point. Never said once that I had bad feeling about Putin or Russia, other then the obvious. By the way why and the hell would anyone need someone else's argument to help you make up your decision on anything. Thats the trouble with the right and the ring in their nose. Your excuse for the hate party voting in the scum bad is a joke and a half. He was elected because a large group of this country are controlled by their hatred and everything the scum bag say is based on hatred and all things bad and ugly. Your nonsense about Putin I just read around, to goofy.
Your idea that Russia is a developing nation is stopped totally, with the sanctions and the Putin's build up of his Military , a military that only exist as a threat to us. We don't even live in the same world my friend .
 
No what I'm going for is the fact that people who voted in President scum bag are mindless and the biggest threat to this country today. Scum bag has to go and he can take his admirers with him. This country will go nowhere until that happens. How could anyone think any different , unless they are stupid , that electing a candidate that put people at the head of departments that they hate is not good for this country. Mindless anti Americans.

I get the idea that if I could offer you a 90 minute class on understanding the so-called scum that you would refuse to even go, much less listen.

We call that willful ignorance.

You dig deeper into muck.

Into the hate.

:thumbdown
 
Thanks for the humor, 4 moths after The scum bag was voted in no one claims to have voted for him in fact few will even admit to be a republican, so I can hardly believe you on that point.

I'm too fiscally liberal to be Republican. Likely, I'm more fiscally liberal than you are. I tend to be more fiscally liberal on par with your Western and Northern European countries.

American Democrats tend to be more fiscally conservative than liberals in Europe. Ergo, why LA run by Democrats has a Skid Row, which many Europeans regard as in a Third World state of condition.

Metropolitan LA has an economy the size of the entire prosperous country of the Netherlands. You won't see the City of Amsterdam with any equivalent Skid Row.



Never said once that I had bad feeling about Putin or Russia, other then the obvious. By the way why and the hell would anyone need someone else's argument to help you make up your decision on anything. Thats the trouble with the right and the ring in their nose. Your excuse for the hate party voting in the scum bad is a joke and a half. He was elected because a large group of this country are controlled by their hatred and everything the scum bag say is based on hatred and all things bad and ugly. Your nonsense about Putin I just read around, to goofy.
Your idea that Russia is a developing nation is stopped totally, with the sanctions and the Putin's build up of his Military , a military that only exist as a threat to us. We don't even live in the same world my friend .

You don't even seem to know what you are talking about. But if Russia's military exists only as a threat to the United States then I guess Russia's neighbors like Poland have nothing to fear from Russia.




Now, I could be wrong, so I will defer to others that know a lot more on the subject of military warfare, and especially naval warfare, but my guess is that Russia isn't strong enough as a military naval power to match the US navy naval force to naval force.

The Russian naval force is probably more than capable of defeating a Brazilian naval force (which has outdated naval ships) particularly with its fleet of submarines. But I believe the Russian aircraft carrier is old by today's standards and Russia only has one. The United States has more aircraft carries than any country on earth I think. I think about 7 or 12 of them. And I could be wrong but I suspect the US has more naval cruiser ships too than Russia.

So, if I am correct, Russia is not challenging the or threatening the US as a military naval power.

In terms of air power I don't know.

Russia has the largest tank force on earth but that is pretty much a defense force for is gigantic land territory. Russia is the largest country in land terms on earth.

Basically, I'm saying its military is a strong military force regionally. Like Brazil's military is a strong military force in its region (South America).
 
I'm too fiscally liberal to be Republican. Likely, I'm more fiscally liberal than you are. I tend to be more fiscally liberal on par with your Western and Northern European countries.

American Democrats tend to be more fiscally conservative than liberals in Europe. Ergo, why LA run by Democrats has a Skid Row, which many Europeans regard as in a Third World state of condition.

Metropolitan LA has an economy the size of the entire prosperous country of the Netherlands. You won't see the City of Amsterdam with any equivalent Skid Row.





You don't even seem to know what you are talking about. But if Russia's military exists only as a threat to the United States then I guess Russia's neighbors like Poland have nothing to fear from Russia.




Now, I could be wrong, so I will defer to others that know a lot more on the subject of military warfare, and especially naval warfare, but my guess is that Russia isn't strong enough as a military naval power to match the US navy naval force to naval force.

The Russian naval force is probably more than capable of defeating a Brazilian naval force (which has outdated naval ships) particularly with its fleet of submarines. But I believe the Russian aircraft carrier is old by today's standards and Russia only has one. The United States has more aircraft carries than any country on earth I think. I think about 7 or 12 of them. And I could be wrong but I suspect the US has more naval cruiser ships too than Russia.

So, if I am correct, Russia is not challenging the or threatening the US as a military naval power.

In terms of air power I don't know.

Russia has the largest tank force on earth but that is pretty much a defense force for is gigantic land territory. Russia is the largest country in land terms on earth.

Basically, I'm saying its military is a strong military force regionally. Like Brazil's military is a strong military force in its region (South America).
Like I said we live in different worlds, Your equivalent skid roes standard is funny. many European countries have poor parts of towns and cities, no different then here. And in other place they have people living in garbage dumps. Whatever you think that means. What is this country "A" can beat country "B" crap. Russian Navy will never be a power for the exact same reasons it has never been a power. All their ports are frozen or easily contained. Literally mines and Subs at their ports entrances would park their navy for ever. Russian super tanks would bury the best we have . The Russian tank number difference includes many tanks that are toys in todays world. The same tanks that were gun fodder for American Abrams in the desert in Iraq . Their air power is on par with us but again no numbers but there is only one real fact that counts and that is their ability to attack this country with ICBM or any other way of transporting nukes to this country. No other country in the world can threaten us that way and when it gets down to it it is the only way that really counts. They can achieve that in spades.
 
I get the idea that if I could offer you a 90 minute class on understanding the so-called scum that you would refuse to even go, much less listen.

We call that willful ignorance.

You dig deeper into muck.

Into the hate.

:thumbdown
Lets go over a few things that ends your class instantly. Raped his ex wife, wants to have sex with his daughter, said that it is Ok to call his daughter apiece of ass. Says that you should go right up to women you don't know and grab them by the *****, he says they like that kind of thing. He is horribly cruel person with hundreds of videos and his Internet garbage to support that premise. He says nothing that isn't hate driven and no one lies like your pile of **** does. Anyone who voted for him is stupid and they and their master are by far the biggest threat to this country. Ok what do you got for this scum bag, I'll listen.
 
Lets go over a few things that ends your class instantly. Raped his ex wife, wants to have sex with his daughter, said that it is Ok to call his daughter apiece of ass. Says that you should go right up to women you don't know and grab them by the *****, he says they like that kind of thing. He is horribly cruel person with hundreds of videos and his Internet garbage to support that premise. He says nothing that isn't hate driven and no one lies like your pile of **** does. Anyone who voted for him is stupid and they and their master are by far the biggest threat to this country. Ok what do you got for this scum bag, I'll listen.

OH My....Carlin was right that humor is all about the exaggeration but when you take it too far you break the thread.
 
Like I said we live in different worlds, Your equivalent skid roes standard is funny. many European countries have poor parts of towns and cities, no different then here. And in other place they have people living in garbage dumps. Whatever you think that means. What is this country "A" can beat country "B" crap. Russian Navy will never be a power for the exact same reasons it has never been a power. All their ports are frozen or easily contained. Literally mines and Subs at their ports entrances would park their navy for ever. Russian super tanks would bury the best we have . The Russian tank number difference includes many tanks that are toys in todays world. The same tanks that were gun fodder for American Abrams in the desert in Iraq . Their air power is on par with us but again no numbers but there is only one real fact that counts and that is their ability to attack this country with ICBM or any other way of transporting nukes to this country. No other country in the world can threaten us that way and when it gets down to it it is the only way that really counts. They can achieve that in spades.

I don't see what is so funny about Skid Row, it is a national disgrace.

You are in fact showing you are more right-wing than you claim. Just as I said... Democrats are typically more fiscally conservative than the liberals in Europe are.

This is Amsterdam (downtown the video is marked) in the Netherlands. Metro LA has not only an economy larger than Amsterdam it has an economy roughly the entire size of the county the City of Amsterdam resides in:




Now, this part of downtown LA. Skid Row is said to be anywhere from 20 blocks to 40 some blocks of downtown LA:





The Democratic government of LA was considering or still are considering allotting some to help fix the Skid Row problem. Or last I read. If I recall correctly the City of LA has at least $300 million banked away. They were considering using some of the money towards Skid Row due to mounting pressure to resolve that problem.

You won't see anything like that in London, Berlin, Amsterdam, or Vienna. You know what Skid Row reminds me of? The conditions I saw when I went into Tijuana, Mexico.

And all I hear Democrats talking about is blowing money on initiating war with Russia, causing more destruction in Syria.






As for Russian nuclear ICBM's: they would annihilate the United States. As the United States nuclear arsenal would to Russia. Hence, it really makes no sense to pursue a policy of aggression towards Russia.

They will leave areas of the United States so radioactively contaminated at such levels that those areas will be uninhabitable for over 1,000 years.
 
I don't see what is so funny about Skid Row, it is a national disgrace.

You are in fact showing you are more right-wing than you claim. Just as I said... Democrats are typically more fiscally conservative than the liberals in Europe are.

This is Amsterdam (downtown the video is marked) in the Netherlands. Metro LA has not only an economy larger than Amsterdam it has an economy roughly the entire size of the county the City of Amsterdam resides in:




Now, this part of downtown LA. Skid Row is said to be anywhere from 20 blocks to 40 some blocks of downtown LA:





The Democratic government of LA was considering or still are considering allotting some to help fix the Skid Row problem. Or last I read. If I recall correctly the City of LA has at least $300 million banked away. They were considering using some of the money towards Skid Row due to mounting pressure to resolve that problem.

You won't see anything like that in London, Berlin, Amsterdam, or Vienna. You know what Skid Row reminds me of? The conditions I saw when I went into Tijuana, Mexico.

And all I hear Democrats talking about is blowing money on initiating war with Russia, causing more destruction in Syria.






As for Russian nuclear ICBM's: they would annihilate the United States. As the United States nuclear arsenal would to Russia. Hence, it really makes no sense to pursue a policy of aggression towards Russia.

They will leave areas of the United States so radioactively contaminated at such levels that those areas will be uninhabitable for over 1,000 years.
I have to wonder where in the hell do you get these ideas. Who wants to hassle Russia? Not me, They would be our strongest ally but They see their issues totally separate from ours. Their policies are against this countries policies and vice versa. They have interests that contradict our interests. Depending on the degree of difference, is in direct relationship to how these two countries will look at each other. My laughter at skid row is at you not skid row. I told you you are wrong , I've been in almost every country in Europe and many other places around the world. Their are poor in every large city. It is done two different ways . City governments tries to concentrate the poor making these skid rows or they don't and spread it where it falls but that doesn't change in any way the amount of poor that live in these cities. Your fantasy idea that some countries don't have poor people is what I pointed out as being funny. Even naive.
 
OH My....Carlin was right that humor is all about the exaggeration but when you take it too far you break the thread.
Not that I really understand what you said but are you arguing that one of these didn't happen.
 
I have to wonder where in the hell do you get these ideas. Who wants to hassle Russia? Not me, They would be our strongest ally but They see their issues totally separate from ours. Their policies are against this countries policies and vice versa. They have interests that contradict our interests. Depending on the degree of difference, is in direct relationship to how these two countries will look at each other. My laughter at skid row is at you not skid row. I told you you are wrong , I've been in almost every country in Europe and many other places around the world. Their are poor in every large city. It is done two different ways . City governments tries to concentrate the poor making these skid rows or they don't and spread it where it falls but that doesn't change in any way the amount of poor that live in these cities. Your fantasy idea that some countries don't have poor people is what I pointed out as being funny. Even naive.

jbander,

I never insinuated European countries didn't have poor people.

I'm saying many of them, like the Netherlands, don't have them living in abject poverty or what economist term "absolute poverty." London has masses of poor people. But because the UK is so fiscally liberal and has such a robust welfare system almost all of those poor people in London live in what economist term as "relative poverty." So, when you live in government housing in London or Chicago you're living in relative poverty. When you live on the filthy, disease ridden, dangerous streets of Skid Row lacking sufficient nutrition and shelter, or live in a dirt floor shack in Northeastern rural Brazil with no running water and electricity, poor diet along with it, you are living in absolute poverty.


absolute poverty definition: Free Sociology Dictionary: absolute poverty defined


absolute poverty

(noun) A form of poverty that is the same regardless of country or culture and occurs when the resources required for minimum physical health are lacking, typically defined by limited access to food, clothing, and shelter.

Usage Notes:

Absolute poverty is compared and contrasted with relative poverty. Absolute poverty is an objective measurement and relative poverty is a subjective assessment.


relative poverty definition: Free Sociology Dictionary: relative poverty defined


relative poverty

(noun) A type of poverty that is determined by income distribution over a given population and is culturally defined according to societal norms (e.g., driving a used car when your neighbor just bought a new car).

Example: John drives a used car when Jane, his neighbor just bought a new car.

Most (not all, as seen by Skid Row in LA but there are other cases across the country but not as dramatic) poverty in the USA falls under "relative poverty." That being people are poor relative to what it is to be middle-class in the United States.

There are some European countries like Italy and Spain that have people, lots of immigrants actually, living in sprawling squatter camps and/or minimally built shacks that essentially amounts to living in absolute or abject poverty.

But when you talk about countries like England and the Netherlands their governments have worked to eliminate such levels of poverty. They have homeless, but generally that is a temporary state (aside from living in shelters) and their people and governments would personally find it a disgrace to have something akin to LA's Skid Row.

In England in fact, even if you are a young man in your 20's, if you are out of work perpetually due to being drug addicted, the government will provide you housing paid for by the tax payers. I think they give you a monthly income too.
 
No I'm not you are, no I'm not you are, no I'm not you are. Try to come up with something of your own, just for the hell of it.

....what? Comprehensive statements please.
 
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