Keys to unseating Trump

[GDViking]

You might try running a candidate who isn't crazy, a liar, a criminal, or just plain stupid.

Maybe one that could pass a Whitehouse security check...

I think all candidates should pass that check and if they don't we should know why...

 

[GDViking]

Keep on thinking that. By the way, in 2012 the Democratic party wasn't as far left as it is now and we didn't have any Democratic Socialists running. These people scare independents away. Independents aren't going to vote for a Democratic Socialist.

That is where you are wrong.

Bernie Sanders beat Hillary in Wisconsin hands down, he would have easily beat trump here if he had been up against trump rather than Hillary.

If that had happened Bernie would be president rather than this criminal we currently have tlo defend our country against...

 

[GDViking]

I totally agree.

I would hold my nose and vote for a socialist but I am a republican never Trumper, not an independent.

I am one of those republicans that has been run out of the party for having values and concern for the deficit.

Same here I always voted Republican on two things, trapping and hunting/gun rights.

Then I started paying more attention to the environment and realized there are very many Democrats that protect the second amendment, trapping rights and the environment as well.

I started paying attention to the individual rather than who the NRA told me to vote for.

I realized they were supporting candidates that not only did not hunt but had never held a gun in their lives, when there were life long sportsman on the ballot.

Then they embraced a POS draft dodging, pedophile, pen hunter in Ted Nugent and that was the last straw for me.

The NRA and the Republican party sold there souls to the alt right.

My position has not changed, however the right has moved so far that way they are embracing Russia and Putin.

I still stand where I always did, but I do find myself slightly on the Left now that the line has moved so far right...

 

[noonereal]

the line has moved so far right...

I am called a liberal daily. Same views for decades. I still think Bush was teh best president of my lifetime and voted twice for Ronnie. But now I am left. Far left.

One thing I know about all of life. Balance is best.

Right now, as you say, the country is radical right.

Worse than that. The country is lead by an immoral divider.

 

[GDViking]

I am called a liberal daily. Same views for decades. I still think Bush was teh best president of my lifetime and voted twice for Ronnie. But now I am left. Far left.

One thing I know about all of life. Balance is best.

Right now, as you say, the country is radical right.

Worse than that. The country is lead by an immoral divider.

I agree, balance is better , however the Balance will always switch too rapidly if both sides are as far away from one another as they can get...

 

[bongsaway]

I agree, and the reason I do is because some people are invested in the idea that the tough tactics and sacrifices are necessary to bring about change; it's a gamble they may be willing to take. I do think the independent voters who chose Trump out of a real disdain for Clinton aren't likely to vote Trump again if there is a more viable option. What remains to be seen is if the Democrats are going to field a viable candidate; by viable I mean one which will have enough mass appeal for the wide range of independent voters out there.

In my opinion one of the good things about having so many candidates on the left, those still standing in a year should have a multitude of ideas to draw upon. From what I'm seeing, the more I see mayor pete the more i'm leaning towards him as the dem candidate. Time will tell.

 

[GDViking]

I am called a liberal daily. Same views for decades. I still think Bush was teh best president of my lifetime and voted twice for Ronnie. But now I am left. Far left.

One thing I know about all of life. Balance is best.

Right now, as you say, the country is radical right.

Worse than that. The country is lead by an immoral divider.

I almost voted for him accept when be got off a plane in Jackson hole Wyoming, he looked at the grand Tetons and asked why the nation owned all this land, it was being wasted and should be developed.

He lost me right there...

 

[noonereal]

I almost voted for him accept when be got off a plane in Jackson hole Wyoming, he looked at the grand Tetons and asked why the nation owned all this land, it was being wasted and should be developed.

He lost me right there...

I nearly voted for him too. I thought sure he was going to "grow up" once elected.

A little voice in my head said, he may not, so I didn't. A very close call for me.

 

[Puigb]

Keep on thinking that. By the way, in 2012 the Democratic party wasn't as far left as it is now and we didn't have any Democratic Socialists running. These people scare independents away. Independents aren't going to vote for a Democratic Socialist.

you do realize you guys just got spanked in the mid-terms, right? Regardless, my point still stands.

 

[Moderate Right]

I think you may not realize the system harm he is doing to the country.

That is why I'd literally vote for anyone else.

I see Trump as a blood letting and even a socialist will apply pressure to the wound even if they don't know enough to put a tourniquet on and rush to the hospital.

What harm is he doing? Installing conservative values?

 

[Moderate Right]

In other news, pigs fly. There is no way on Earth you've ever voted for a single Democrat in your life.

I vote for at least one every single election and voted for Obama in 2012 and Bill Clinton the second time around. As a matter of fact, I was a registered Democrat and voted that way many times in my younger, stupider years. There is no way in hell I'm voting for socialism though. If that's the direction Democrats are going I probably never will vote for one ever again. My city has a Democratic mayor though who seems to be doing pretty well and I have seen no signs that he is infected with TDS so as long as that continues he's got my vote.

 

[Moderate Right]

And you suffer from repeatedly making the false claim that you have voted for Democrats.

It's in my posting history going back as far as my join date. It's just that you guys just can't believe there is such a thing as a moderate who isn't infected with TDS. You believe that only diehard Trumpettes could support Trump. But, I don't actually call myself a Trump supporter, I call myself a Trump defender from the left's total and complete TDS. By the way, I don't watch stupid videos so you wasted your time posting this one.

 

[Moderate Right]

That is where you are wrong.

Bernie Sanders beat Hillary in Wisconsin hands down, he would have easily beat trump here if he had been up against trump rather than Hillary.

If that had happened Bernie would be president rather than this criminal we currently have tlo defend our country against...

Keep on thinking that. Trump didn't even actually try winning the 2016 election. Hillary and her team far, far outspent Trump and his team. You lefties seem to want to ignore that fact. If Trump had actually tried he would have won the popular vote as well. You guys also make the mistake in thinking that if Bernie won the presidency he could actually accomplish something. Don't forget, the resistance works both ways. There will be new billboards put up "resist 46". And, you completely ignore the fact that if a socialist like Bernie is the nominee, Howard Schultz enters the race and takes enough votes away to give Trump a second term.

 

[Moderate Right]

you do realize you guys just got spanked in the mid-terms, right? Regardless, my point still stands.

Minority parties almost always gain in the midterms. It's a historical fact. In fact, if you compare the red tsunami of Obama's 2010 to the blue kid's pool of 2018 it isn't even a comparison. Oh yeah, I forgot, gerrymandering is your excuse. That's your excuse for every loss.

 

[Conservative]

Chom, I would honestly like to believe that, really I would. I left the democratic party when clinton signed nafta. Trump on the other hand could shoot someone on fifth ave and it wouldn't matter. I tend to believe that sooner than I think the pragmatism of the farmers will change their minds. If they have the money, I think most will bite the bullet and like the second farmer said, believe it will get better in the long run and vote trump again. I also think trump will not win again. Those who gave him a chance the first time because he was a business man, they're gone. His harsh rhetoric and actions are really wearing on people who do not support trump and he's only going to get crazier as election time draws nearer.

There never has been a President with a 50+ approval rating on the economy to lose a re-election bid and right now Trump's is close to 52%. Americans do not want socialism no matter what the radical left thinks and Americans want to take care of their families and the Trump economy is generating that result.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval - Economy

 

[Vadinho]

Regardless of who the Dems put up against Trump, sane rational voters should be running from Trump with their hair on fire. However, we all know Trump is POTUS because of irrational voters and if he wins again, the nation deserves whatever comes with him in the second term. If we are this stupid, we belong in the same group as the UK now that they are stuck with their own version of Trump fever, BREXIT. Much as I hate to admit it, our nation needs a punch in the gut sometimes to wake up from ignorance and apathy.

 

[Trippy Trekker]

You might try running a candidate who isn't crazy, a liar, a criminal, or just plain stupid.

Crazy, liar, criminal and plain stupid describe President Chump.

 

[Chomsky]

Maher said last night that the Democrats on Twitter don't resemble ANY Democrats he actually knows in real life, and that the "woke" generation is finding all kinds of ways help make Democrats look absolutely insane. Yes, guys like the Joe Bidens need to get through to the more liberal wing of the party but "being woke" is just that, you JUST woke up and NO, you do NOT have the clarity of mind as someone who has BEEN AWAKE all along.
Being "woke" means you've been asleep for a long time, remember? You "woke" kids missed a lot while you were enjoying your nice little naps.

Remember, waking up means you're NOT aware of what was going on while you were sleeping. Examples ABOUND!!

Hey, I agree. I don't personally have much association with any Dems like the awoke millennials, but I have run into some in the general-public when I'm in certain areas of the city.

In my life, the Dems are quite a bit more Blue-doggie. Unfortunately they're so Blue-dog, that quite a few support Trump - even in my own family! And yeah, they also went for Reagan back in the day too. They're so light Blue, that they're often Purple or light Red. And this is as Northerners; I fear if the ever move South. But I still love 'em. What can I say?

Oh man, that was cruel; even worse that he video'd it; even worse yet that he published it!

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I vote for at least one every single election and voted for Obama in 2012 and Bill Clinton the second time around. As a matter of fact, I was a registered Democrat and voted that way many times in my younger, stupider years. There is no way in hell I'm voting for socialism though. If that's the direction Democrats are going I probably never will vote for one ever again. My city has a Democratic mayor though who seems to be doing pretty well and I have seen no signs that he is infected with TDS so as long as that continues he's got my vote.

We have all watched you speak on socialism for years now. You are in need of significant remedial help on that subject, and it's above my pay grade, and likely everyone else's.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Hey, I agree. I don't personally have much association with any Dems like the awoke millennials, but I have run into some in the general-public when I'm in certain areas of the city.

In my life, the Dems are quite a bit more Blue-doggie. Unfortunately they're so Blue-dog, that quite a few support Trump - even in my own family! And yeah, they also went for Reagan back in the day too. They're so light Blue, that they're often Purple or light Red. And this is as Northerners; I fear if the ever move South. But I still love 'em. What can I say?

You say you're on the Third Coast. Isn't that the Gulf? So you ARE South, no?

Oh man, that was cruel; even worse that he video'd it; even worse yet that he published it!

Oh come on, you'd do it too if the opportunity presented itself, we all would! :lamo

I might be sixty-two but there's still a small part of me that won't hesitate on pranks.

 

[Chomsky]

You say you're on the Third Coast. Isn't that the Gulf? So you ARE South, no?



Oh come on, you'd do it too if the opportunity presented itself, we all would! :lamo

I might be sixty-two but there's still a small part of me that won't hesitate on pranks.

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Oh, it was a good one! But man, I dunno'; it was pretty harsh. But the big deal was publishing it (unless she was good with it).

 

[joko104]

Fair enough. I do agree the Midwest "Trump Dems", those that crossed over for him, particularly in the suburbs & exurbs, will likely be the first and largest group to cross back. I'd hope we could get at least a few farmers. But regardless, places like MI & WI were won by a razor-thin margin, and it won't take much to overcome it. After looking at the 2018 results in the Midwest, I think those states are there already, as long as the Dems don't screw it up.

Naw, the Democratic Party doesn't want farmers. Most are smelly WalMart shoppers nor have college degrees - and the majority are white in a patriarchal family, tend to say mealtime prayers and fly the American flag. Simply, they are EVERYTHING the Democratic Party furiously and loudly hates.

 

[joko104]

Hey, I agree. I don't personally have much association with any Dems like the awoke millennials, but I have run into some in the general-public when I'm in certain areas of the city.

In my life, the Dems are quite a bit more Blue-doggie. Unfortunately they're so Blue-dog, that quite a few support Trump - even in my own family! And yeah, they also went for Reagan back in the day too. They're so light Blue, that they're often Purple or light Red. And this is as Northerners; I fear if the ever move South. But I still love 'em. What can I say?

Oh man, that was cruel; even worse that he video'd it; even worse yet that he published it!

Normally I don't promote divorce, but...

 

[Chomsky]

Normally I don't promote divorce, but...

I was actually going to jokingly ask,

"Are they still married?"

 

[Chomsky]

Naw, the Democratic Party doesn't want farmers. Most are smelly WalMart shoppers nor have college degrees - and the majority are white in a patriarchal family, tend to say mealtime prayers and fly the American flag. Simply, they are EVERYTHING the Democratic Party furiously and loudly hates.

If you added "Catholic" to their list of attributes, you would've described my relatives & neighbors I grew-up with. Well - they used reasonable hygiene though, and Walmart was not yet around. But we often shopped at the Five & Dimes's! But through all this, we assuredly were contributing faithful members of the Dem Machine.

In fact, I'd argue that this is exactly the crowd the Dems need to pursue. They had them before; they never should have let them get away.