Karen Pence Is Working At A School That Bans Gay Employees

[Carleen]

"Spouse of politician gets job" isn't news.

I agree. Knowing her beliefs no one should be surprised. Accepting all would be news.

 

[OrphanSlug]

You didn't turn down a chance to advertise your own bigotry.

Can't wait to hear this one.

 

[VanceMack]

Any woman who stays together with a man who scream's "Mother!" when climaxing has much more to worry about than where she works.

Did he at least leave you flowers? A dollar? Something?

I mean...I'm just assuming based on your statement. You are expressing first hand knowledge of what he does when he 'climaxes'.

 

[lurchadams]

Did he at least leave you flowers? A dollar? Something?

I mean...I'm just assuming based on your statement. You are expressing first hand knowledge of what he does when he 'climaxes'.

You, know, Mack. I thought this was a judge-free zone! Sure, when I see Pence frequently standing next to trump with such deference on his face, as if trump was a great speaker like Obama, I do admit it does make lots of blood flow to my "special purpose".

 

[VanceMack]

You, know, Mack. I thought this was a judge-free zone! Sure, when I see Pence frequently standing next to trump with such deference on his face, as if trump was a great speaker like Obama, I do admit it does make lots of blood flow to my "special purpose".

Hey...I am NOT judging you at all. You be what you want to be. Let that flag fly. Hell...I wouldnt even be critical of you for your relationship with Pence. Except I'm not real keen on folk doing the whole out of wedlock thing.

You be you, man....

 

[lurchadams]

Hey...I am NOT judging you at all. You be what you want to be. Let that flag fly. Hell...I wouldnt even be critical of you for your relationship with Pence. Except I'm not real keen on folk doing the whole out of wedlock thing.

You be you, man....

I'm tryin', Mach thanks. Today I'm crocheting a rainbow flag and embroidering on it in large, fluorescent pink letters, "Mr. President It's Time to Let Your Freak Out".

You can join me in giving it to him, Mach right before the SOTU. Just remember to wear that pretty power-blue dress we all like for the presenting ceremony.

 

[Obscurity]

It's a private school, and the Pence's are open about their religion. They and their religion disgust me, but they are entitled to it, as long as they keep it to them ****ing selves.

 

[VanceMack]

I'm tryin', Mach thanks. Today I'm crocheting a rainbow flag and embroidering on it in large, fluorescent pink letters, "Mr. President It's Time to Let Your Freak Out".

You can join me in giving it to him, Mach right before the SOTU. Just remember to wear that pretty power-blue dress we all like for the presenting ceremony.

Now now...You know you cant 'turn' someone gay. Right? Or are you convinced that in addition to Pence Trump is gay too?

Tell me...why is it that gay people and leftists think that the ultimate attack you can make on anyone is to accuse them of being gay? That seems a little degrading to gay people and smacks of self loathing.

 

[nota bene]

So what? Why should the general public care about where Karen Pence works?

• The school exists, but it doesn't even have a rating, let along a national ranking.
• While it may not be obvious, there are Christian fanatics in Northern VA and that school caters to them, and Karen Pence is content to be part of that. That is what it is.
• Being anti-gay, or being indifferent about the fact of a theist organization's being so, is hardly a new or shocking revelation about Karen Pence.
• That a parochial school exists and would be of that mind/management also is no surprise.

The OP notes that this school is a National Blue Ribbon School. I Googled:

The National Blue Ribbon Schools Program
Recognizing Great American Schools Since 1982

The National Blue Ribbon Schools Program recognizes public and private elementary, middle, and high schools based on their overall academic excellence or their progress in closing achievement gaps among student subgroups. Every year the U. S. Department of Education seeks out and celebrates great American schools, schools demonstrating that all students can achieve to high levels. More than 8,500 schools across the country have been presented with this coveted award. The National Blue Ribbon School award affirms the hard work of students, educators, families, and communities in creating safe and welcoming schools where students master challenging content. The National Blue Ribbon School flag gracing an entry or flying overhead is a widely recognized symbol of exemplary teaching and learning. https://www2.ed.gov/programs/nclbbrs/index.html

 

[TheParser]

But they should not be exempt from paying taxes.

I did not know that private schools are exempt from taxes. Thanks for the info.

 

[lurchadams]

Now now...You know you cant 'turn' someone gay. Right? Or are you convinced that in addition to Pence Trump is gay too?

Tell me...why is it that gay people and leftists think that the ultimate attack you can make on anyone is to accuse them of being gay? That seems a little degrading to gay people and smacks of self loathing.

I'm not attacking anyone, my friend. Just encouraging you to explore your true self.

 

[VanceMack]

I'm not attacking anyone, my friend. Just encouraging you to explore your true self.

:lamo

See? You would debase yourself while trying to attack someone else. That seems a bit self-loathy to me.

 

[zimmer]

Don't blame me because you post stupidly.

You excel at stupidity... see below.

Conversion therapy classes every Saturday.

 

[lurchadams]

:lamo

See? You would debase yourself while trying to attack someone else. That seems a bit self-loathy to me.

Well, you have the right to your opinion "mate". I need to point out that I started this line of humor bashing no one but Pence. You were the one who decided to turn it into a "left bashing" fest. I understand that though - ignorant conservatives can only find true comfort when bashing people that disagree with them. You barrack for people you hate to lose, and that's fair dinkum, mate.

 

[ChezC3]

Hilarious how all the "we only want marriage equality" BS'ers who said they're not trying to legislate acceptance, who said that it was totally preposterous to think that they would demand homosexual acceptance in religious institutions now are doing just that and proving those of us who've known their agenda all along 100% right.

 

[Xelor]

The OP notes that this school is a National Blue Ribbon School. I Googled:

The National Blue Ribbon Schools Program
Recognizing Great American Schools Since 1982

The National Blue Ribbon Schools Program recognizes public and private elementary, middle, and high schools based on their overall academic excellence or their progress in closing achievement gaps among student subgroups. Every year the U. S. Department of Education seeks out and celebrates great American schools, schools demonstrating that all students can achieve to high levels. More than 8,500 schools across the country have been presented with this coveted award. The National Blue Ribbon School award affirms the hard work of students, educators, families, and communities in creating safe and welcoming schools where students master challenging content. The National Blue Ribbon School flag gracing an entry or flying overhead is a widely recognized symbol of exemplary teaching and learning. https://www2.ed.gov/programs/nclbbrs/index.html

Okay. Immanuel Christian School obtained its award in 2015.

I bid you to click the link above and look at the list of awardees in your state and tell me whether you see only schools that strike you as excellent schools or whether it seems as though a wide range of institutions ranging from outstanding to mediocre, perhaps even dubious, quality have received the award.

I did so for D.C., and that's precisely what I observed, at least regarding high schools. What I observed is that a few of the private schools on the list are pretty good; however, the best schools in the city aren't on it at all. That is what it is, but that observation suggests that award recipients aren't selected because the Blue Ribbon program administrators go "hunting" for the best schools in a jurisdiction, but rather because schools that think they can get the award apply for it.

Next I checked the schools with which I'm most familiar with their teaching and teaching results (based on my, my kids', my kids' friends' having attended them, and based on what I've observed among various individuals with whom I've interacted as part of my mentoring, college interviewing and professional recruiting activities). A small few of those schools have won the award, yet most of them have not, yet all of them are renowned as among the best schools in the country. (Groton, Choate, Kent, Exeter, Andover, Hotchkiss, Deerfield, Lawrenceville, Middlesex, St. Paul's, Miss Porter's, St. Albans, Episcopal, Sidwell, and a few others.)

Now, I don't have a beef about what schools are and aren't Blue Ribbon winners. My point is that I wouldn't expect to see much variety among the quality of the schools that have won the award, yet there is a huge range. Think of it like this: among college undergrads, there are three levels of honors graduates; however, though there are GPA differences among them, the fact is that one is rather splitting hairs to demark among them.

That trait isn't extant among Blue Ribbon Award winners, at least not among the ones in D.C. To wit, the School Without Walls (#51 nationally) won the award, so did McKinley Tech (#1387 nationally), and also Dunbar has won the award, and it's not nationally ranked at all. Consequently, though I'm sure it's a good thing to win the award -- it's not as though one gets awards for being lousy -- I'm not sure that it says much about the quality of an awardee school or that a school has won it.


BTW, don't think I'm in any way remarking on Mrs. Pence as a teacher. I'm not.

 

[VanceMack]

Well, you have the right to your opinion "mate". I need to point out that I started this line of humor bashing no one but Pence. You were the one who decided to turn it into a "left bashing" fest. I understand that though - ignorant conservatives can only find true comfort when bashing people that disagree with them. You barrack for people you hate to lose, and that's fair dinkum, mate.

Im not bashing anyone. I'm just going along with your comments and pointing out the irony that while so many leftists claim to be loving and support of gay rights issues, THAT is the insult they find most damning to hurl at others. Again...I just think its pretty indicative of a strong sense of hatred and not a little bit of self loathing. I hope better for my fellow man. But hey...that's me...I'm tender like that.

 

[lurchadams]

Im not bashing anyone. I'm just going along with your comments and pointing out the irony that while so many leftists claim to be loving and support of gay rights issues, THAT is the insult they find most damning to hurl at others. Again...I just think its pretty indicative of a strong sense of hatred and not a little bit of self loathing. I hope better for my fellow man. But hey...that's me...I'm tender like that.

LOL - "I'm not bashing anyone".

Self reflection - a skill, sadly lost on wing-nuts.

 

[VanceMack]

LOL - "I'm not bashing anyone".

Self reflection - a skill, sadly lost on wing-nuts.

You are sure attempting to. Because you somehow think being gay is the worst thing people can be and calling someone gay or insinuating they are gay is the worst thing you can say to them.

Pretty disrespectful of gay people if you ask me.

 

[lurchadams]

You are sure attempting to. Because you somehow think being gay is the worst thing people can be and calling someone gay or insinuating they are gay is the worst thing you can say to them.

Pretty disrespectful of gay people if you ask me.

And since you don't like someone's humor, as a defense mechanism you attack them. Doesn't bother me, it's your problem, not mine.

You have no idea of my life experience, who I love, etc., yet you make accusations from ignorance.

But you're in good company - that's what conservatives do.

 

[VanceMack]

And you are attempting to put words into people's mouths because to listen to another's point of view is something so foreign to you, it's almost like asking you to listen to another language you don't understand.

You have no idea of my life experience, who I love, etc., yet you make accusations from ignorance.

But you're in good company - that's what conservatives do.

:lamo

Oh dood...Ive made no accusations. AT ALL. You claimed you know the sounds Pence makes when he climaxes. YOU implied you had a personal relationship with him. And I steadfastly...then and now...do not judge you. I just wish you werent so quick to shame homosexuals by using them as the worst slur you can apply to someone. But thats your choice and you are free to continue to do it.

 

[lurchadams]

:lamo

Oh dood...Ive made no accusations. AT ALL. You claimed you know the sounds Pence makes when he climaxes. YOU implied you had a personal relationship with him. And I steadfastly...then and now...do not judge you. I just wish you werent so quick to shame homosexuals by using them as the worst slur you can apply to someone. But thats your choice and you are free to continue to do it.

In your heart you're harboring a great deal of fear and hate, mate. If that ever changes, come back and we'll chat.

 

[Beaudreaux]

Weird, this isn't a link to the text of the first amendment, which was the subject of the post I quoted.

The First Amendment is the reason that there is an exemption from the law, that you (by inference) eluded to in your first "weird" reply to my first post.

 

[Beaudreaux]

No one is claiming that the school has no right to discriminate, just that such discrimination is disgusting. And is a high ranking public figure wise to take a job with such an institution? I think it's great that she has an occupation, and I think that teaching is an important role, but the intolerance is despicable.

To me, discrimination of any sort is in the public realm is disgusting, but this is not in the public realm; it's in the private religious belief realm. However, to me, gay sex is disgusting also - I also get disgusted looking at people eat certain foods as well.

That said, I believe in our Constitution (see my avatar) and therefore I have the same high level of personal respect for both religious organizations and for gay people to exercise their rights and to be secure in their personal freedom and liberty.

I believe that our Constitution protects the right of all people to love and marry whomever they wish to love and marry, just as the Constitution protects the right of people to believe in any religious tenants that they feel are part of their religion. If a religious organization doesn't want to recognize or perform same sex marriages or same sex relationships, then they have that Constitutional right.

All that said, the wife of the Vice President is not an official of the US Government nor is she an elected official, and therefore she can do whatever she feels like doing when it comes to her employment, volunteering, or religious beliefs.

I seriously doubt that anyone that would vote for Pence in the first place, will have their minds changed to not vote for him based on his wife teaching at a school that doesn't hire gays. I wouldn't vote for him before I read about this, because of his anti-gay positions. And, I seriously doubt that anyone that is disgusted by this, would have voted for Pence in the first place, either.

The key for me, the line that should not be crossed, is for an elected official that believes that their religious beliefs should be the law for everyone should not be allowed to continue to serve because they are not living up to their Oath of Office by not protecting and defending the US Constitution. A person can have very strong religious beliefs (Sectarian) and still be an effective and proper government official or elected official. But, if they are to be part of our federal or state government they must keep their religious beliefs subservient to the US Constitutionally protected rights of the people (Secular). Their right to believe in a thing, doesn't overrule the people's right to not believe in the exact same thing, and the Constitution gives us BOTH those rights - equally.

To deny or hate their religious beliefs, however, is a form of bigotry, just as their discrimination could also be bigotry if they carried those beliefs into the public realm from the religious realm - which is why I would never vote for Pence since he brings his beliefs with him in everything he does.

 

[Idiometer]

seems those who object to the schools beliefs are intolerant to those who accept them. :mrgreen:

It isn't their religious beliefs that are objectionable, it's their intolerance.