John McCain doesn’t seem to want Trump at his funeral

[slick]

after the tRump debacle; do the republicans have any legitimate expectations of being able to hold onto the white house?

The only possible way they can hold the presidency is if Trump runs as a Republican in 2020.

 

[Tigerace117]

Trump lives in his head rent free!!! It is sad. Trump's comment was really cruel but
I don't understand why anyone wants to carry that bitterness to the grave.

Arizona has open primaries. The Democrats vote for McCain, and so he panders to them to get re-elected.

This undocumented Democrat is not of sound mind and has a white hot hatred of Trump and the people who voted for Trump.
At this point he obviously hates Trump more than he loves America. He is off his chain as he has nothing to lose.

Looking back , I can only imagine the amount of damage he would've done if elected President.
It has been reported by staffers and others McShame was overheard saying to a group of democrats while laughing.
"I stopped Trump from making America great again, and will continue to stop him with my no votes."

A bitter old loser right to the very end, & it was predictable!

Yes, it was predictable that Trump cultists would continue to show their hatred for POWs, the military, and America.

 

[reinoe]

One could ask the same question about Trump. Why do some folks like someone who acts like a five year old whose parents failed to teach him any manners? Whoever hold the office of the presidency should give that office some dignity. It's like a friend of mine said, even if he agreed with Trump on 100% of the issues and policies, he could never vote for him. The way Trump behaves turns a lot of folks off even if they agree with his policies. I don't thing Trump and his supporters realize that.

The purpose of the president is to serve the American people. I'm tired of "polite" two faced liars who step on the necks of the American people to hold them down.

 

[zimmer]

...Senator John McCain, one of the last true Republicans...

ROTFLOL... that’s funny.

 

[zimmer]

Yes, it was predictable that Trump cultists would continue to show their hatred for POWs, the military, and America.

You mean like spit on troops?

Or vote to send them to war for political expediency, only to turn on the troops in the battle field when they needed our support most?

That is the Democrat Party.

Under Bush43 we saw not only their hatred for our military, and their using their vote to send troops to war for political purposes, but under Obama we saw that hatred expend to the police and others securing the nation.

That hatred resulted in cops being assasinated.

Leftists have a long sordid history of crapping on our protectors and defenders. Hell, you folks like Liberty for all so much, you created the KKK and had a Grand Dragon leading the Senate not too long ago.

You really do not want to go down the road of which party loves and supports the military, police, ICE, etc.

But you did... and well... illustrated your pure ignorance.

As for McCain... he is a war hero. He is also a RINO who is obviously vindictive. He also ran against perhaps the weakest candidate in modern times and failed to lay waste to him. Obama had zero qualifications to be president... and that’s not just me speaking, but former Democrat VP candidate Geraldine Ferraro.

 

[zimmer]

Trump would have no interest in going anyways....something that I figure McCain knows.....but why pass up an opportunity to be a dick to trump right?

Shows how vindictive and bitter McCain is.

His vote to repeal the Careless (Un)Affordable Care Act (CACA) also illustrated his putting petty politics before the good of the nation.

 

[JackA]

Trump is here because Washington and the entire elite class have long been an incompetent deeply morally challenged cesspool.

I really cant do much for someone who is so behind the power curve as you are.

Seek more remedial help.

Trump is here because of an electoral system that enabled him in spite of a losing voting margin, Comey's last minute injection into the campaign, and his capacity for swooning weak minded people into his narcissistic orbit, the last illustrated by a moral comparison with John McCain made in his favor.

 

[Perotista]

The problem is that you never seem to understand why Trump is here, and that the complaints from Trump Country have a whole lot a validity and deserved a fair hearing many many years ago....and yet they are still waiting.....as those who run things wait for us to die....as they insult us......constantly.

I don't insult supporters of Trump or of Hillary for that matter. I tell you what I think of both, which isn't good. I don't care much for either major political party either. I'm not the type to be told what issues or policies to support or oppose by a political party. I'd base my support or opposition on the merits of the legislation.

I don't have a problem with you supporting Trump, that's fine. Each of us view politics, the function of government, those in government, elected or otherwise through different eyes. I can't stand Trump, the man. His personality. I would say the same about Hillary. Now I can support Trump on some of his policies, I can oppose some. Based on the merits of each as I see it. But I'm not going to follow the president as a mind numbed robot.

There's never been a president I would do that for or a political party. Probably the closest candidate that I was willing to do almost anything and listened to his every word was Goldwater. He lost. But he shaped my political views and outlook and later on Ross Perot put on some finishing touches.

 

[zimmer]

Wonder who will mourn your passing? Beating a man as he transitions is classless! If you have nothing good to say, show some ****ing self-discipline and say nothing at all! Who raised you? You have to “put up with” nothing. Don’t your appliances have an “off” button. You post like a miserable, worthless pøs. Have another drink/toke........

McCain put this out publicly. He has made his pending death a public matter with his comments about Trump.

One can reflect on his life now, as he is living, and is still jabbing away at rivals... which is what Trump is to McCain.

It’s actually funny to watch Democrats come out and attempt to cut off discussion of a RINO.

 

[Perotista]

wait!
you failed to acknowledge that this turned out to be an effective strategy
he played the system of established party politics and won
that is a notable achievement

now compare that to mccain's campaign; "the fundamentals of the economy are sound" he insisted as the great recession unfolded upon the American public

while i cannot stomach tRump, ignoring his major strategic political triumph is unwarranted
using it, he now occupies the white house; significantly, he achieved it on one-half the budget of his opponent

According to open secrets, Hillary spent 1.4 billion dollars to Trump's 968.6 million. Trump was a genus in obtaining free air time by calling into all these morning shows. Trump used the media to help get him elected. Trump was like that old showman, there isn't anything such as bad publicity. He was the headliner, good or bad almost every day of the campaign, both primary and general.

As for me, Trump like every other president in my lifetime has done some good things and some bad things. I can support those I think is good and oppose those I think is bad. But his personality, the way he acts like a five year old temper tantrum thrower, along with all his idiotic blasts turns me completely off. When he comes on TV or even if the reporter starts talking about him, I switch the channel.

 

[Perotista]

immediately before selecting palin, mccain literally could not get an audience in a grocery store. the cameras would reveal customers angrily going around him to open the cooler doors to select their frozen items, interrupting his attempts to speak to the camera
and then lipstick-on-a-pig (aka the drunken hockey mom) was nominated as his running mate
his campaign caught fire
not enough to win
but at least it had a chance
one that would have been absolutely impossible without palin attracting a following and thus, the media

I think it was a mistake. But I'm more of a traditionalist. What you say is probably true, but I sure didn't like the idea of Palin being a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. That reminds me of the 1988 race between Bush the elder and Dukakis. A reference to Quayle and Bensen the VP picks. It went like this, Do I vote for Bush and hope he lives or do I vote for Dukakis and hope he dies.

 

[Perotista]

The purpose of the president is to serve the American people. I'm tired of "polite" two faced liars who step on the necks of the American people to hold them down.

I don't think Trump represents the American People, just a segment. He plays to his base and forgets everyone else. Of course just about every other president more or less in my lifetime has done the same. I personally think if Trump had the personality of a Reagan, less obnoxious and egotistical will to fight anyone and create a feud if someone says one bad thing about him or even disagrees with him. He would be up in the 50's for approval instead of stuck in the low 40's.

What I find interesting, I'm a poll hound who digs deep insides the polls, not just reading the headline and move on. What I find interesting is on Trump's policies, his stances on the issues independents are split, for some and against some. As of such one expects independents to give Trump roughly a 50% approval or favorable rating. They don't. In fact Trump's approval rating among independents has dropped from 48% on inauguration day down to 34% today. Why? Why if what Trump has tried to do and done has the approval of approximately half of all independents has it dropped instead of remaining at close to 50%?

I think their disapproval of Trump is based on his personality, his overbearing, uncouth, child like persona. Keep in mind independents aren't that partisan or ideological for the most part. They also don't pay attention to the daily grind of politics. Appearance is important. If independents like a president, a candidate etc, they will most likely vote for him. If they don't, they vote for someone else.

With the economy improving, it'll be interesting to see if independents begin to return to Trump's side. If they can throw their distaste for his character and behavior aside to acknowledge what he has done. I suppose we'll find out in November.

 

[cabse5]

McCain is a lot more traditional GOP in the likes of Eisenhower and Reagan than the eight time party switcher. Trump in my opinion is the ultimate opportunistic RINO. Have you ever noticed that when Reagan was in office, Trump was a Democrat. When Bill Clinton was in office, Trump became a Republican. During G.W. Bush Trump was back being a Democrat after he ran for my party's presidential nomination in 2000, the Reform Party. Yes, for a year Trump belonged to the Reform party.

Then when Obama took office, Trump became a Republican again. Then an independent and finally a Republican once more in 2012 after Romney lost. His history looks like a guy searching for an opportunity to run for the presidency, party didn't matter. Think about that? Switching parties eight times tells me Trump himself doesn't know what the heck he is.

As for Representatives and Senators, I always felt they should represent the people back home. The ones who elected them and sent them to Washington first and foremost regardless of party. McCain represented the folks back in his home state much more than almost any other politician I can think of. Listening to the people of his state, McCain deserve credit. That is exactly what the people of Arizona sent him to Washington for. Not to become a mind numbed robot doing the bidding of any party leader to include any president.

Funny with all Trump's party switches, his ideology hasn't, IMO. I suspect Trump has switched because his party abandoned him.

I've experienced the same. My ideology hasn't changed but I've also switched parties (not to the extent of Trump, though). I'm not as liberal as Trump, either.

Don't bank on where someone holds a political party allegiance to determine the flip-floppiness of a person. Sometimes, the party has done the flipping and flopping.
In its inception, for example, the GOP was the biggest big government party in the history of the US (maybe of all time, up until the present dems and FDR).

Over the years, the GOP has morphed from the highly conservative Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan party to the highly moderate (even liberal, IMO) Nixon and George W. party.
Trump has turned the GOP into a liberal phase, again. However, I don't think a more conservative GOP candidate could've been elected president.

 

[calamity]

A Bitterman to the bitter end it seems.

It's his funeral.

 

[cabse5]

Trump is here because of an electoral system that enabled him in spite of a losing voting margin, Comey's last minute injection into the campaign, and his capacity for swooning weak minded people into his narcissistic orbit, the last illustrated by a moral comparison with John McCain made in his favor.

Yeah. Trump's election isn't legitimate even though The Constitution says it is. Maybe you need to change The Constitution?

 

[Casper]

John McCain doesn’t seem to want Trump at his funeral

I can well understand why Senator John McCain, one of the last true Republicans, wants the poser Trump nowhere near his funeral or internment.

Related At His Ranch, John McCain Shares Memories and Regrets With Friends - The New York Times

Good For McCain.....

 

[polgara]

I think it was a mistake. But I'm more of a traditionalist. What you say is probably true, but I sure didn't like the idea of Palin being a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. That reminds me of the 1988 race between Bush the elder and Dukakis. A reference to Quayle and Bensen the VP picks. It went like this, Do I vote for Bush and hope he lives or do I vote for Dukakis and hope he dies.

Greetings, Pero. :2wave:

Well, that's the first time I've heard it put that way! :lamo :thumbs:

 

[Tigerace117]

You mean like spit on troops?

Or vote to send them to war for political expediency, only to turn on the troops in the battle field when they needed our support most?

That is the Democrat Party.

Under Bush43 we saw not only their hatred for our military, and their using their vote to send troops to war for political purposes, but under Obama we saw that hatred expend to the police and others securing the nation.

That hatred resulted in cops being assasinated.

Leftists have a long sordid history of crapping on our protectors and defenders. Hell, you folks like Liberty for all so much, you created the KKK and had a Grand Dragon leading the Senate not too long ago.

You really do not want to go down the road of which party loves and supports the military, police, ICE, etc.

But you did... and well... illustrated your pure ignorance.

As for McCain... he is a war hero. He is also a RINO who is obviously vindictive. He also ran against perhaps the weakest candidate in modern times and failed to lay waste to him. Obama had zero qualifications to be president... and that’s not just me speaking, but former Democrat VP candidate Geraldine Ferraro.

Actually, I mean like claiming POWs weren’t heroes because he “likes people who weren’t captured” and having that statement supported by the spineless, brainless cultists who follow him.

Actually it’s more like how Trump supporters have actively tried to undermine NATO to help their hero Vlad.

Trump cultists fantasize about murdering police. You see it in the Neo Nazi terrorist attacks and the scheming and plotting to violate laws they don’t personally argue with.

Those are Trump cultists.

Lol what a joke. The Confederate officers—-traitors who murdered hundreds of thousands of American servicemen—-you Trump cultists admire so much were the ones who founded the KKK.

Yes, I do, because time and again you Trump cultists have shown your pathological hatred for the military and the police.

No, the weakest candidate in modern times in Trump, whose only “qualifications” were race baiting and spewing whatever mouth breathing idiocy went through his head.

Vice President “candidates” are utterly irrelevant

 

[cabse5]

Actually, I mean like claiming POWs weren’t heroes because he “likes people who weren’t captured” and having that statement supported by the spineless, brainless cultists who follow him.

Actually it’s more like how Trump supporters have actively tried to undermine NATO to help their hero Vlad.

Trump cultists fantasize about murdering police. You see it in the Neo Nazi terrorist attacks and the scheming and plotting to violate laws they don’t personally argue with.

Those are Trump cultists.

Lol what a joke. The Confederate officers—-traitors who murdered hundreds of thousands of American servicemen—-you Trump cultists admire so much were the ones who founded the KKK.

Yes, I do, because time and again you Trump cultists have shown your pathological hatred for the military and the police.

No, the weakest candidate in modern times in Trump, whose only “qualifications” were race baiting and spewing whatever mouth breathing idiocy went through his head.

Vice President “candidates” are utterly irrelevant

Looking in the mirror while you post this?

 

[Tigerace117]

Looking in the mirror while you post this?

Yes, I did. Unfortunately for you, you don’t have a point, and are tossing out a one liner in lieu of an actual argument.

 

[cabse5]

Yes, I did. Unfortunately for you, you don’t have a point, and are tossing out a one liner in lieu of an actual argument.

I thought you were using yourself as inspiration for your rant.

 

[zimmer]

Actually, I mean like claiming POWs weren’t heroes because he “likes people who weren’t captured” and having that statement supported by the spineless, brainless cultists who follow him.

To Trump McCain’s being captured does not make him a hero. One can have a different opinion.

Actually it’s more like how Trump supporters have actively tried to undermine NATO to help their hero Vlad.

Trump saved NATO by getting freeloaders like Germany to pay their fair share. He was correct in questioning its existence today and whether we should stay in a coalition where we are footing the bill and providing the most troops and treasure.

Trump cultists fantasize about murdering police.

Odd... for it is Leftists doing the actual assasinating... and openly talking about killing cops.

You see it in the Neo Nazi terrorist attacks and the scheming and plotting to violate laws they don’t personally argue with.

Neo Nazi’s? They’re not R’s, but in any event I haven’t seen this reported in the news. Link?

Those are doing the cultists.

In your mind.

Lol what a joke. The Confederate officers—-traitors who murdered hundreds of thousands of American servicemen—-you Trump cultists admire so much were the ones who founded the KKK.

The KKK is the militant arm of the Democrat Party. It is also the party which had recently put a Grand Dragon at the helm of their party in the Senate.

Yes, I do, because time and again you Trump cultists have shown your pathological hatred for the military and the police.

ROTFLOL... I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

No, the weakest candidate in modern times in Trump, whose only “qualifications” were race baiting and spewing whatever mouth breathing idiocy went through his head.

Hmmm... Trump... worldwide businessman for almost as long as Obama has been on the planet.

Obama... no qualifications to point to. One of my favorite moments in 08 was Obama answering what qualifications he had as an executive... and he answered... running my campaign... ROTFLMFAO that was funny.

Vice President “candidates” are utterly irrelevant

ROTFLOL...

Please keep posting.

 

[zimmer]

I think it was a mistake. But I'm more of a traditionalist. What you say is probably true, but I sure didn't like the idea of Palin being a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. That reminds me of the 1988 race between Bush the elder and Dukakis. A reference to Quayle and Bensen the VP picks. It went like this, Do I vote for Bush and hope he lives or do I vote for Dukakis and hope he dies.

You really must have been choking with Obama/Biden.

Obama... less qualified than either Palin or Quayle... and a Marxist to boot... with the dumbest clown in the Senate as his backup.

 

[Fishking]

I can well understand why Senator John McCain, one of the last true Republicans, wants the poser Trump nowhere near his funeral or internment.

Related At His Ranch, John McCain Shares Memories and Regrets With Friends - The New York Times

I wouldn't go to his funeral if someone paid me.

 

[Lovebug]

I wouldn't go to his funeral if someone paid me.

If asked, I would. Time and place for everything.