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Joe Biden: White America 'has to admit there's still a systemic racism'

RealityNow said:
America will never be a "white america", nor "a black america"... it will be what it has the make up in being, which is a multicultural and multi-ethnic america.

That will not change.. the sooner people come to term, realize and accept that fact, it will propel us back to the true and honest leader of the world in principle and example.

It is up to each individual... to invest in learning, invest in the compassion's of and within learning, and come to know the truth within the principles that makes what is American Democracy, which is founded in the principle of equality as individual and person.

We the people make the hell that rages... and promote the suffering that exist in our civic and civil arena. We do that by the foolishness of racist ignorance, delusional grandstanding, and bias and bigoted madness, all of which damages the society and all the lives which exist in and upon this land.

We are in the 21st Century still living with 17th and 18th Century ignorance, and its time for us to step forward as human beings, and be the civic and civil society we are capable of being. We have no idea the capacity within the individual, and ourselves, as long as we stifle it with racism and not take the time to learn what and how the influences of the past history of racism has damaged us all.

Its a simply matter...'Do Unto Others, as you would have Other Do Unto You.... its gets no simpler.... See other with the same respect of individual and person as one would like others to respect of themselves as individual and person.

(not just when disaster strikes, but as everyday American people living in a society founded in the principles of Democracy's Ideals... of Equality as Individual and Person.


It is a weak minded and damaged spirit of and within a person who cannot bring themselves to such simple truth, and to live it!!!

EXPECT LESS AND RESPECT MORE... it's the principle we teach our kids, but will we live it in respect and relation unto and within the society of America as Individuals, as Person, by the same principle?????????????????????????????? Review yourself, and learn not just of yourself, but of others... and it will be as true in commonality as blood types being suitable to be transfused regardless of race, skin color and or ethnicity. Why can we not accept and learn such God given and created simplicity.

We will find that Opportunities will Flourish.... and Flow like waters that perpetually run to the Sea.

This current political ignorance of divide... does not serve us well, we all will live for a time, and our time should be to make better the world, the relations and the society that will be the ever unfolding future within America.

People can run from this post and fight against it, but they can't run from themselves.
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Nor can they run from ICE.
Your post is quite touching and mostly correct.
However, are you promoting ILLEGAL immigration?
 
Buzz62 said:
:lamo
Except it proves you original statement false.
And those who approve of the way Stone was arrested...obviously approve of fascist tactics.
Have a nice day Tiger.
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Except it does no such thing because, for the fifth time, it had nothing to do with racially based terrorism.
 
I've not address or inferred anything regarding "illegal immigration".... this post was not about immigration.

If I am to discuss Immigration, I will refer to LBJ's 1965 Immigration Act... as a positive for our Immigration concerns and reforming ourselves to meet it.

I'd also refer to Teddy Roosevelt..

"Square Deal "
Let the watchwords of all our people be the old familiar watchwords of honesty, decency, fair-dealing, and commonsense."... "We must treat each man on his worth and merits as a man. We must see that each is given a square deal, because he is entitled to no more and should receive no less.""The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us."
New York State Fair, Syracuse, September 7, 1903"
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Presidential Criticism

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149
May 7, 1918
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smallvoice said:
He couldn't admit that. He was the Vice President in the most overtly racist administration in memory.
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At least put some effort into your trolling. God damn, that's some dumb ****
 
Sampson Simpson said:
At least put some effort into your trolling. God damn, that's some dumb ****
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After reviewing all your posts, you have NO room to talk. And Obama did have the most overtly racist administration in recent times. But you are right, Grant's was probably marginally more racist.
 
smallvoice said:
After reviewing all your posts, you have NO room to talk. And Obama did have the most overtly racist administration in recent times. But you are right, Grant's was probably marginally more racist.
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At some point, Humanity needs to get past the outrage of "We have tribes, those tribes still prefer their own tribe".
 
Question... can he even name one black person in the office of presidency that he''d not have a problem with? Likely not!!! There has never been a black leader in any venue of society, that has not been criticized by the Right Wing Conservative Mindset.

Jim Crow is over!!!! the old mantra of "every black person is negative" does not fit nor work anymore as an agenda items..... Obama made no policies that were racist and nothing in his agenda of presidency was driven by racist aims. NOTHING.... He said, "Let's rebuild America from the bottom up and make a level playing field for all".... when he said that, those whom are racist and bigoted nearly went crazy, because they refused to accept "Equality" of person and individual as a principle and basis of American society. they started screaming 'we want our country back", as in saying... they want a 'white man", regardless if he has to be the worst one can imagine, as long as he's a white man... so we end up with the likes of what we have in office today. It's a pure atrocity and a travesty against the dignity of this nation and its principles of Democracy's Integrity.


There is nothing racist about that... other than if one thinks in the terms of Jim Crow Ideology, where at no time was a black person to stand up and declare anything that could or would apply for all society. Heck, they attacked MLK, when his stand for Civil Rights was for "everyone".... !!!!!

The only thing was of racism during the Obama Administration, was the Racist who detested seeking as being a non white male in the office of the Presidency, and they set out to attack him on that very premise, but tried to be covert in every way they could imagine. American history of full of such acts and conduct when it comes to black and how they are fought against by racist types, who just can't accept the element and fact of "human equality" of person, as individual.

There's 100's of years of documentation which denotes that fact. And the long history of "wait", as if black people are expected to wait on white society to "RATION" out rights when its convenient and beneficial to them only to do so.

That game plan is over..... All Diverse People and WOMEN, are no longer buying into the white nationalist program of white male dominance..... So... acts, aims and efforts to denigrate blacks and women and other minorities as was done during Jim Crow, will not work today, and it will not be the system going into the future. women don't accept anymore the white nationalist agenda of white male dominance, not over them, and they don't accept it being pushed upon and over others of various ethnicity. The sooner society comes to terms with this fact ... then we can move on in making an America that works for "everyone".
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Buzz62 said:
Ya...right...
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It did not.

It's like trying to claim fighting between the British and the French as racially based terrorism.

But I get that historical ignorance is kinda your thing.
 
Tigerace117 said:
It did not.

It's like trying to claim fighting between the British and the French as racially based terrorism.

But I get that historical ignorance is kinda your thing.
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:lamo
Please do try to act like a vertebrate...
 
Buzz62 said:
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Please do try to act like a vertebrate...
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So in other words act nothing like you and the rest of your whiskey tango cohorts. Got it.

Maybe try expanding your reading material outside of Mein Kampf if you want to actually insult me.
 
washunut said:
I thought the clean remark came from Harry Reid. I might be mistaken.
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Reid apologizes for racial remarks about Obama during campaign

"Washington (CNN) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid apologized Saturday for making racially insensitive remarks about Barack Obama during the presidential campaign.

Journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann reported the remarks in their new book, "Game Change," which is scheduled to be in bookstores Tuesday.

The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.""
 
average Americans are not racist. Lefty politicians need the meme to keep in power.
 
Joey Biden can say anything provocative he wants,the usual liberal/Demo antics. he has nothing to lose but to start trouble. No one cares what he says. He doesn't matter and never did.
 
Tigerace117 said:
They absolutely were. I get it's hard for a Lost Causer to comprehend why people were so loyal to Lincoln, but the simple fact of the matter is that he had just lead the country through an existential crisis, crushing a traitorous revolt by slavers in the process. He was already viewed as a great man and hero even before he was assassinated by a pro-Confederate thug. Once that happened, well, the martyr factor came into play......and the country followed what they thought Lincoln would have wanted, even though it would have been far wiser to crush the former Confederates so deeply they never could have come up up to spew their venom again.
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Utter drivel. You weren't there, and even if you had been, you would have no real idea as to what extent the Union Congress was motivated by respect for Lincoln, as opposed to self-interest-- unless you, say, happened to be a member of said Congress, and even that would have allowed you only limited knowledge.

But yeah, you go on THINKING that you know.
 
Tigerace117 said:
It's a simple reference to the fact that white supremacists, lost causers, and other white trash losers who dominated the South routinely called African American men "boys". Nothing more.

And if that's the best evidence you have to defend your claim, well.......that's just sad.
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I don't doubt that the New Black Racists think that it's really witty to turn back the traditional anti-black insult onto white people, although it's been going on for so long, and in so many venues, that a movie like PANTHER does so more out of knee-jerk politics than out of any special insight.

No, of course it's not my "best evidence;" I gotta million of 'em. But from your previous posts I know you can't tell day from night, so I don't trouble to distinguish between "best" and "not as good" when I'm talking to you.
 
Tigerace117 said:
By which you mean you cover your ears and desperately ignore the evidence going "la la la I can't hear you I cant see you".

Yes, the monuments which were massively constructed during time periods when African Americans were pressing to actually be able to utilize their rights as Americans.

Something which I know you lost causers hate.
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And we all know that for the Left, circumstantial evidence is totally OK when it serves the purposes of the Left.
 
akyron said:
Reid apologizes for racial remarks about Obama during campaign

"Washington (CNN) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid apologized Saturday for making racially insensitive remarks about Barack Obama during the presidential campaign.

Journalists Mark Halperin and John Heilemann reported the remarks in their new book, "Game Change," which is scheduled to be in bookstores Tuesday.

The authors quote Reid as saying privately that Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.""
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I don't know the dominant race of those Americans were protesting against Reid's remarks, but I think I know their politics. Theirs are the politics of "everything a white person says about a black person is automatically RACIST."

If I could speak to any of these deadheads, I would remind them that Reid's comments are implicitly talking about Obama's ability to keep from seeming "too black" to white voters. Having relatively light skin and no typical accent didn't hurt Obama with black voters in any significant numbers, but Reid is simply saying that such factors are assets when dealing with white voters who may not gravitate to someone who seems "too black." If the remarks carried any offense, it would be toward white American voters as a whole-- though it would be true for certain individuals, naturally.
 
Ouroboros said:
I don't know the dominant race of those Americans were protesting against Reid's remarks, but I think I know their politics. Theirs are the politics of "everything a white person says about a black person is automatically RACIST."

If I could speak to any of these deadheads, I would remind them that Reid's comments are implicitly talking about Obama's ability to keep from seeming "too black" to white voters. Having relatively light skin and no typical accent didn't hurt Obama with black voters in any significant numbers, but Reid is simply saying that such factors are assets when dealing with white voters who may not gravitate to someone who seems "too black." If the remarks carried any offense, it would be toward white American voters as a whole-- though it would be true for certain individuals, naturally.
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There was a question as to what he said. I would not assume motive.

Reid seemed driven by "Get rich off the American people".

I do not know that he cared about what color they were.
 
Ouroboros said:
And we all know that for the Left, circumstantial evidence is totally OK when it serves the purposes of the Left. .
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Manufactured seems more than enough....

Good stuff.

 
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Is this topic still going on? I thought we agreed that yes in fact we do need to admit that the democrat party is engaged in systemic racism that has destroyed the black American community.
 
Ouroboros said:
Utter drivel. You weren't there, and even if you had been, you would have no real idea as to what extent the Union Congress was motivated by respect for Lincoln, as opposed to self-interest-- unless you, say, happened to be a member of said Congress, and even that would have allowed you only limited knowledge.

But yeah, you go on THINKING that you know.
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Yes, your hysterical defense is indeed utter drivel. I get that you are desperately clinging at whatever straws drift by to try and defend your fantasy version of history—indeed, desperately trying to spin and twist and suck and dodge in an attempt to try and draw some kind of parallel between your slaver heroes and the Union—-but unfortunately for you we have this neat things called “primary sources” which let us know what people back then thought.
 
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