Joe Biden: My VP pick will be a woman

[Cordelier]

Yeah, when the sis is having problem making a decision, she'd have to appeal to Stacy! :2razz:

Anyway, thanks for the good convo. Have a good one! :thumbs:

*L* I don't think Little Sister has to worry just yet.... Big Sister has a way to go before she gets the High Bench.

You have yourself a good'un too! (Two, if you can swing it!)

 

[Nap]

I said Stacy Abrams for AG.

Sen. Klobuchar for VP.

I never said anything about Abrams for VP so I'll say something now which is that Abrams would have a challenge to persuade Americans she's a fit for VP at this point of her relatively limited career in electoral politics and government. While Abrams is pushing 50 and was an elected state rep in the GA House and she came very close in the race for governor, close only counts in hand grenades and horse shoes.

Moreover for Abrams to get into the SCt she'd need the Democrats in the Senate majority which remains a pending matter. Abrams could likely be confirmed as AG by a Republican Senate if that might be how it goes in November yet that is pending of course and tenuous for Moscow Mitch & His Deadend Boyz. And make no mistake Susan Collins and Republican women senators are where the Boyz are.

I think he may have meant to quote someone else as there have been people mentioning her for VP or even for the SC. I don't think I have ever seen anyone fail upwards to the degree she has with barely anything to speak of in regards of history/track record. I find the love affair with her to be particularly fascinating especially since her claim to fame is "threatening democracy" (to use Clinton's words) by not accepting the results of an election.

 

[Tangmo]

"No Malarkey". I love it! It would be a great campaign slogan! :thumbs:

We've already got No More Mulvaney so that's a great start to a new day coming.

No more McCarthy would be good too, as in Kevin but his CA constituents would disagree I'm sure. Nor izzit happenstance that Devin and Kevin are names in California that rhyme for the right only.

Happy St. Pattie's Day of course to my multitude of Irish friends, relatives and in laws back home in Boston and everywhere be they Green or Orange.

 

[Tangmo]

Abrams already has a sister who's a US District Judge down in Georgia.... if she gets on the SC, can you imagine what Thanksgiving Dinners would be like in that family?

Trump as the cooked turkey is the ultimate unifier.

 

[Cordelier]

I said Stacy Abrams for AG.

Sen. Klobuchar for VP.

I never said anything about Abrams for VP so I'll say something now which is that Abrams would have a challenge to persuade Americans she's a fit for VP at this point of her relatively limited career in electoral politics and government. While Abrams is pushing 50 and was an elected state rep in the GA House and she came very close in the race for governor, close only counts in hand grenades and horse shoes.

Moreover for Abrams to get into the SCt she'd need the Democrats in the Senate majority which remains a pending matter. Abrams could likely be confirmed as AG by a Republican Senate if that might be how it goes in November yet that is pending of course and tenuous for Moscow Mitch & His Deadend Boyz. And make no mistake Susan Collins and Republican women senators are where the Boyz are.

You're right, you did say that... sorry about that - must have gotten the wires crossed there.

I think Harris would make a better AG than Abrams... she definitely has more experience. I don't know... it seems a waste to put Abrams in an appointed position. I'd sooner see her run for an office... how come she isn't running in the Georgia Senate race this year? Purdue only got like 53% of the vote last time around... Seems to me that she could give him a real run for his money.

 

[Cordelier]

We've already got No More Mulvaney so that's a great start to a new day coming.

No more McCarthy would be good too, as in Kevin but his CA constituents would disagree I'm sure. Nor izzit happenstance that Devin and Kevin are names in California that rhyme for the right only.

Happy St. Pattie's Day of course to my multitude of Irish friends, relatives and in laws back home in Boston and everywhere be they Green or Orange.

St. Pat's isn't until the 17th. Thanks for the premature wishes, though.

 

[Tangmo]

I think he may have meant to quote someone else as there have been people mentioning her for VP or even for the SC. I don't think I have ever seen anyone fail upwards to the degree she has with barely anything to speak of in regards of history/track record. I find the love affair with her to be particularly fascinating especially since her claim to fame is "threatening democracy" (to use Clinton's words) by not accepting the results of an election.

My concern about Stacy Abrams is that she brooks no dissent or variations of her hard and fast purposes. I'd like to see Abrams as the stridently anti white racist AG and given she'd always be subject to the checks, balances and oversight of the Congress and the Senate in particular but not the Senate exclusively insofar as her steel will goes.

Yet Harris as AG would probably be better at rebuilding the institutional character of DoJ and FBI especially. So it might be six of one and a half dozen of the other in respect of which would do what with the position, role, function and Constitutional design of AG.

We recall DoJ was created in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War to neuter racism which post Trump the Racist in Chief says Abrams.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Will be Warren. He sang her praises in the debate

I don't think so, she is to far left for the coalition he is trying to build.

 

[Tangmo]

St. Pat's isn't until the 17th. Thanks for the premature wishes, though.

Sure thing yet I always wish people I know a happy birthday, wedding anniversary and the like whenever it might come to mind given my horrendous record with dates on the calendar. That way I can put the onus on them for missing my greetings, congrats and well wishes. My recalling exact dates are a long lost cause I'm afraid so it's how I cover my you know what. eace

Which reminds me now I still owe my brother John a happy birthday from December. They're used to it though.

 

[Tangmo]

I'm curious, what is it exactly that would lead you to believe she would make a good SC Justice? Is it just the fact that she is an African American woman with a law degree? if so that is a slap in the face to any sitting judge, in particular those that are actually qualified and also happen to be a woman of color. This would be the equivalent of a Republican nominating Ben Shapiro to the Supreme Court.

Trump has already nominated two hundred of Ben Shapiro to the federal courts and Moscow Mitch has moved 'em through the Senate quicker than shi, er, wind, out of a duck's ass.

 

[Tangmo]

You're right, you did say that... sorry about that - must have gotten the wires crossed there.

I think Harris would make a better AG than Abrams... she definitely has more experience. I don't know... it seems a waste to put Abrams in an appointed position. I'd sooner see her run for an office... how come she isn't running in the Georgia Senate race this year? Purdue only got like 53% of the vote last time around... Seems to me that she could give him a real run for his money.

My sense is Abrams ran for governor because that's the job she wanted. Her giving a pass to the Senate contest this year against Purdue shows she isn't busy running for any next available office and that Abrams is anyway not interested in the Senate.

Abrams said on tv months ago she's actively doing the party circuit to become the VP nominee which btw is not a great statement to make given neither party would nominate two women and that's just fact. So Abram's publicly pronounced presumption of months ago was that a woman would not be nominated to head the ticket, thus enabling Abrams to join a male at the head of the ticket. This is neither politic to say nor is it a welcome exclusion to make especially while the race was in progress under the fireworks overhead.

These kind of electoral faux pas derive from a lack of big league electoral experience and an ego that might need some downsizing in favor of more id.

 

[Nap]

Trump has already nominated two hundred of Ben Shapiro to the federal courts and Moscow Mitch has moved 'em through the Senate quicker than shi, er, wind, out of a duck's ass.

We aren't talking about the lesser courts, we are talking about the Supreme Court and both judge picks by Trump were highly qualified individuals with at least a decade of experience as a judge at the federal level.

 

[Nap]

My sense is Abrams ran for governor because that's the job she wanted. Her giving a pass to the Senate contest this year against Purdue shows she isn't busy running for any next available office and that Abrams is anyway not interested in the Senate.

Abrams said on tv months ago she's actively doing the party circuit to become the VP nominee which btw is not a great statement to make given neither party would nominate two women and that's just fact. So Abram's publicly pronounced presumption of months ago was that a woman would not be nominated to head the ticket, thus enabling Abrams to join a male at the head of the ticket. This is neither politic to say nor is it a welcome exclusion to make especially while the race was in progress under the fireworks overhead.

These kind of electoral faux pas derive from a lack of big league electoral experience and an ego that might need some downsizing in favor of more id.

Why not? I swear you people are so hung up on race and gender it is ridiculous.

 

[Craig234]

I don't know what it is that you're saying, though....

One sample. Opinion | Kamala Harris Was Not a ‘Progressive Prosecutor’ - The New York Times

 

[Tangmo]

We aren't talking about the lesser courts, we are talking about the Supreme Court and both judge picks by Trump were highly qualified individuals with at least a decade of experience as a judge at the federal level.

Merritt Garland was more qualified than either of the two Trump nominees the Federalist Society sent to the Bad Boyz Club in the Senate via Trump who didn't know either Gorsuch or Kavanaugh from Adam. Trump is a Federalist rubber stamp on justices of SCt and and judges throughout the judiciary. Biden's election in November puts all of it into a screeching halt. No more Federalist Society deciding all of our judges and justices while Trump stamps 'em.

I'd venture to say either Harris or Abrams is likely to wear the robe of justice of Scotus while the other would sit as AG. Methinks you might consider putting in for a judgeship while you're at this thingy and before it's too late.

 

[Tangmo]

Why not? I swear you people are so hung up on race and gender it is ridiculous.

It's Trump who has to claim being hung up. :lamo

 

[roguenuke]

lmao, I can't believe I'm about to defend socialists but that is possibly the most unhinged and delusional post that I have seen on this forum. Bernie actually encouraged Warren to run in 2016 and only ran himself when she didn't. You are correct that a socialist committing to selecting a woman is not something they would do because that would actually go against the principles of egalitarianism. You should be disgusted with Biden as last I checked gender discrimination is illegal.

Not in this case it isnt. A Presidential candidate can choose his VP for any reason he chooses. And as others have pointed out, he probably already has picked or narrowed it down, but is throwing out a teaser to entice female voters.

Being on a list for VP is not like applying for a job nor does it fall under the discrimination in workplace guidelines.

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[bongsaway]

Typical democrat.

Typical based affirmative action type belief instead of who is best for the job.

He is stupid to announce such a thing. He shouldn't have announced it until a selection was made.

Does anyone see how unqualified this man is to be president?

He's a walking gaff.

Unlike the stable genius who now occupies the oval office. You remember him, the guy who would never play golf because he would be working his arse off. No bells there? How about the guy who promised you he was going to build a wall that mexico was paying for? No? Bigger, better, cheaper healthcare for all? Still not remembering who said all of those things? Yup, it's the guy who currently sits in the oval office waiting for the next real president to arrive.

 

[humbolt]

Unlike the stable genius who now occupies the oval office. You remember him, the guy who would never play golf because he would be working his arse off. No bells there? How about the guy who promised you he was going to build a wall that mexico was paying for? No? Bigger, better, cheaper healthcare for all? Still not remembering who said all of those things? Yup, it's the guy who currently sits in the oval office waiting for the next real president to arrive.

Yep. We really need a president who'll offer healthcare saving families $2,500.00 per year. One who'll wait six months to declare a health emergency - no need to foster panic. One with meaningful red lines. One who'll stop a jihadi caliphate decisively. A real president...

 

[BrotherFease]

To answer my own question. Here is how I look at it.

Picking VPs are always a tricky business. There are a lot of things you have to jungle. For Biden, the big thing going against him is his AGE and worries that the Bernie Bros will vote for Trump or De Facto Trump aka Third Party or stay at home or write-in. We also have to consider Texas, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida as key battleground states.

Freshman governors, senators, or U.S house members are probably a bad idea. He needs a candidate that voters can be confident of being a great president, just in case "old man Biden" gets ill or losing it mentally. Grisham and Whitmer are probably too inexperienced for Biden. They just won their governorship in 2019. Abrams came close to winning the governorship, but that's still a loss and wouldn't him his candidacy.

I am thinking Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, Tammy Duckworth or Tammy Baldwin as the best candidates.

Klobuchar is somebody whose won over both Republican and Democratic districts and appeals to the mid-west.

Warren doesn't come from a swing state, but it would help him win over large factions of the Bernie Bros.

Personally I think he should go with a Tammy. Duckworth would be somebody with an inspiration story and would be somebody people could trust if disaster strikes again. Baldwin would be somebody to the left of Biden and comes from a swing state of Wisconsin.

 

[HumblePi]

:lamo

Y'all need to get your stories straight. Either it's an affirmative action pick because liberals have to push women for everything or we hate women. It can't be both.

Speaking for myself, 'my' story has never been ambiguous. My comment is what I believe, not what anyone else believes or tells me to believe. I stated fact, nothing more or less.

 

[HumblePi]

:lamo

Y'all need to get your stories straight. Either it's an affirmative action pick because liberals have to push women for everything or we hate women. It can't be both.

I only speak for myself because I have a mind of my own. I don't pretend to speak for 'libruls' or democrats or for anyone other than myself because I'm a grownup and use critical thinking in my thought processes. Whatever opinions that I have are based in fact, logic and temperance. 'Y'all' best stop lumping everyone together under one label.

 

[danielpalos]

Joe Biden announced that he's going to pick a woman as his Vice Presidential candidate. Who will he pick? Is this a good idea to pick a woman instead of being open to picking a man?

Here are some real possibilities:

FORMER 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES

Tulsi Gabbard - Congresswoman from Hawaii
Kamala Harris - U.S Senator from California
Amy Klobuchar - U.S Senator from Minnesota
Elizabeth Warren - U.S Senator from Massachusetts

CURRENT SENATORS

Tammy Baldwin - U.S Senator from Wisconsin
Tammy Duckworth - U.S Senator from Illinois
Maggie Hassan or Jeanne Shaheen - U.S Senator from New Hampshire, former Governor of New Hampshire

CURRENT GOVERNORS

Michelle Lujan Grisham - Governor of New Mexico
Gretchen Whitmer - Governor of Michigan

U.S CONGRESSWOMEN

Val Demings - 10th district from Florida
Veronica Escobar - 16th district from Texas (Beto O'Rourke's seat)

OTHER CANDIDATES

Stacey Abrams - Georgia House of Representative, former candidate for Governor of Georgia
Michelle Obama - Former First Lady of the Unite States
Susan Rice - National Security Advisor under President Obama
Sally Yates - Deputy Attorney General for President Obama, fired from her post by President Trump in 2017 after one month.

In my opinion, Sanders for VP may be better since the right wing will be less likely to try to impeach Biden in that case. A woman VP could only enable the right wing, if they impeach Biden to have the first woman President.

 

[Drawdown]

I don't think so, she is to far left for the coalition he is trying to build.

It isn't a coalition if you only take in people like you.

 

[RealityNow]

Harris as Attorney General... or to the Supreme Court -- (First choice is for her to be on the Supreme Court) She would make a Good VP... but for long term benefit, Her on the Supreme Court will have benefit going into the depths of the 21st Century.

Ginsberg will Retire when Biden is Elected.... and this will open the door for Harris to be placed on the Supreme Court.