Jeff Flake Knocks Republicans For Not Standing Up To Birthers

[Linc]

Flake is a conservative who abhors populism and protectionism and ethnocentrism.

Any birther/Trumper will find it very hard to defeat him in the primary.

Especially if multiple birther/trump candidates split the GOP primary vote .

 

[Linc]

Obama fueled the speculation by refusing to release his birth certificate. Jeff Flake should just join the Democratic Party and be done with it.

Why is it that one has to submit a certified copy of a birth certificate to obtain a passport but not to be the president of the United States? LOL.

I never bought into the birther crap. To me, if your parent(s) is a U.S. citizen, it shouldn't matter where you're born. With that said, I always believe Obama was born in Hawaii.

Did Flake vote for Gorsuch, the most far right-wing Justice we now have, especially on social issues ?

 

[Linc]

Yea, it's time for Flake to address issues affecting the average Americans in the year 2017. He sounds like he should be returning to the private sector.

Flake barely beat a poor candidate, Carmona, 49.2 to 46.2 in 2012 .

 

[Linc]

How did birtherism compel Trump to run for president in lieu of the fact that the guy in question with regard to his origin of birth was on his way out of the White House? :doh

Birther trump began running for president in 2011 ;

 

[Linc]

Before anyone tries to create a new narrative to explain why Flake might lose his primary, Flake is in trouble for his vote on the Obamacare repeal.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Murkowski and Flake lose their primaries because of their Obamacare repeal vote. I don't think that McCain or Collins will lose, though.

Murkowski was just reelected by a landslide over 'libertarian' Miller last year. In 2010, she lost to 'GOP' Miller in the primary and beat him in the general as a 'write-in' .

 

[sangha]

I could be wrong. I know that, amongst my Republican friends, none of us ever saw anything to the birther thing. I will add that, based on the final results of the 16' election, my faith in polls, such as the ones you cited, is sketchy at best.

When shown irrefutable evidence that you were wrong, the proper response is to say you WERE wrong, not you could be wrong.

 

[Linc]

I could be wrong. I know that, amongst my Republican friends, none of us ever saw anything to the birther thing. I will add that, based on the final results of the 16' election, my faith in polls, such as the ones you cited, is sketchy at best.

Most of us tell what state we live in with our profile. That would help to know the dynamics behind the thinking of you and your friends .

 

[bubbabgone]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jeff-flake-knocks-republicans-not-172053670.html



Looks like the 2018 election has already begun.

It's too easy to say his name is apropos ... he's probably not one anyway.
But he is selling a book and looking to GET booked by as many media outlets as possible to sell it.
There's no better way to do that.
And I suspect he's calculated that a bit of this kind of silly public soul-searching meant to demonstrate his glorious awesomeness won't hurt his AZ re-election.

 

[Linc]

As the economy continues to improve, the only person who will find himself being ostracized is Flake. The rest will jump on the bandwagon. They're not fools.

Consider the economy Obama inherited from Bush versus the one trump got from Obama. Let's see how trump's first budget pans out next year .

 

[Linc]

Ahh, more conservative falsehoods. President Obama put his BC on his campaign website in 2008. And as conservatives are wont to do, they simply created a new lying narrative to cling to their original lying narrative. You and yours simply created the “it’s a forgery” narrative to cling to the “born in Kenya” narrative. so now you guys created the “its Obama’s fault we were dumb” narrative. what happened to the “personal responsibility” narrative?

I’d like to believe you but your current post and other posts in this thread show how susceptible you are to lying conservative narratives.

Once the GOP master of false-equivalency, Eric Cantor, was defeated by trump/birther Brat in that low turnout VA primary, the GOP disowned him, as he now rakes in millions on Wall Street. Brat is by no means safe in 2018 .

 

[Linc]

Jeff Flakes a flake, obviously.

I have no sympathy whatsover for Obama and his ilk and neither should anyone else.

What he did to this Nation and its people was far worse than the silly birther accusastions he was forced to contend with

From his disastrous healthcare legislation, to his using his authority to violate the civil liberties of Americans citizens and journalist to his cozy relationship with the worlds leading state sponsor of terror and radical groups like the Muslim Brotherhood one thing is certain, Obama was a disaster.

Add in a corrupt DOJ and AG ( s ) , his turning NASA and the EPA and other Govt agencies into propaganda machines.

Thank God he's gone and Sen Flake can pound sand

How soon GOPs turn on their own. Didn't Flake vote yes on the 'skinny' repeal?

So did Cruz, certainly at risk next year to Rep. O'Rourke, along with Heller and Fischer in NE running under the radar.

You'll be lucky to break even in the Senate, ahead of terrible GOP senate maps in 2020 and 2022.

Instead of repeating election victories the last 4 cycles, could you opine on the upcoming 2017 elections, along with those in 2018? Pretty Please !!

 

[Mycroft]

Do you have any data to back up that claim of 100%? And what do 100% of us believe, exactly? I'm part of that "the left" I think, and I don't know what Trump or those close to him did or didn't do. I'm waiting on the investigation to conclude or for some conclusions to be announced.

But there is a key difference between the "Russia nonsense" and birtherism - first the FBI and others in the IC and now an independent counsel really IS engaged in a more than year long investigation into the "Russia nonsense."

See, one is backed by the evidence and consistent with reality (the Russia "nonsense") and the birther crap was contradicted by every shred of evidence! That you can't see the distinction is part of the problem with what the GOP did.

LOL!!

Okay, have it your way. One hundred percent...minus you...etc.

 

[Linc]

Why would you conclude polls can't be trusted when the polls predicted a majority would vote for Clinton, which is what happened, and they all come with fairly significant margins of error? Less than 100k votes go the other way and the polls were correct, both on the popular vote and on the EC.

And you're using anecdotes (what you and your small circle of friends believed) to counter data and evidence about voters as a whole.

Though repeating myself, it was the GOP firm of the Trafalgar Group out of Georgia that called the election in 47 states on election eve. They only missed on NV, NH, and WI. So I watch them like a Hawkeyes, my Iowa team.

Iowa farmers are scared with no TPP; such as my conservative farmer in-laws. Ernst is now speaking out against trump, on such issues as transgenders in the military, being s Colonel herself .

 

[Mycroft]

How soon GOPs turn on their own. Didn't Flake vote yes on the 'skinny' repeal?

So did Cruz, certainly at risk next year to Rep. O'Rourke, along with Heller and Fischer in NE running under the radar.

You'll be lucky to break even in the Senate, ahead of terrible GOP senate maps in 2020 and 2022.

Instead of repeating election victories the last 4 cycles, could you opine on the upcoming 2017 elections, along with those in 2018? Pretty Please !!

Actually, Flake DID vote yes...but he waited with his vote until he saw how McCain was going to vote. He voted out of turn to do it. When he saw that McCain voted no, he knew he was safe in voting yes.

 

[Linc]

I know next to nothing about this guy, but it sure looks looks he is after points for being "edgy".

Sen. Flake is a lot like Sen. Sasse of NE, though not as smooth. Sasse clobbered a competent GOP primary foe Osborn, a McConnell acolyte.

Sasse has certainly been an unusual Tea-Party senator, trashing trump on numerous occasions. This guy is presidential material in about 10 years, IMHO .

 

[Linc]

Actually, Flake DID vote yes...but he waited with his vote until he saw how McCain was going to vote. He voted out of turn to do it. When he saw that McCain voted no, he knew he was safe in voting yes.

Flake didn't do himself any general election favors voting for 'skinny'.

If minorities in AZ ever wake up and vote in any election, midterm or POTUS, Flake will lose to a competent DEM, though they're still unannounced in AZ .

 

[Hawkeye10]

Sen. Flake is a lot like Sen. Sasse of NE, though not as smooth. Sasse clobbered a competent GOP primary foe Osborn, a McConnell acolyte.

Sasse has certainly been an unusual Tea-Party senator, trashing trump on numerous occasions. This guy is presidential material in about 10 years, IMHO .

I understand that we dont agree on a lot of things but you have sound judgment I have found.

Thanks

 

[Rogue Valley]

As the economy continues to improve, the only person who will find himself being ostracized is Flake. The rest will jump on the bandwagon. They're not fools.

We'll see if trump can deliver on his promises of 25 million new American jobs and an economy that thunders along at a 4% annual rate of increase.

 

[Linc]

I understand that we dont agree on a lot of things but you have sound judgment I have found.

Thanks

We all want what's best for America, but differ on how to get there. I've just returned from the Badlands, Black Hills and Mount Rushmore; I'm certainly still inspired and always hate to leave the West. You're lucky to be in Washington.

We're planning the same trip next year to SD, completely in a bad drought, with her extended family out there. We didn't go to Sturgis but met many great bikers in the Black Hills; stayed in Keystone.

And, we'll also go to the 'Northern Forest', VT, NH and my extended family in ME.

I'm hoping for the Cascades in 2019. The great people you meet out West, and their top concerns like WATER, are half the fun while learning .

 

[JamesBY]

The Senatorial make up for the class of 2021 is still hard to determine this far out.

Cruz, whom I detest, is safe regardless. He inherits a major portion of the far right evangelical crazies in Texas who follow Perry.

Flake may have trouble.

Orrin Hatch would like to run again in 2018, but . . . Utah will have three parties running next year, and if Bennett and Allen loses their congressional races in Nov, they (particularly Bennett) will be formidable foes in a three way senatorial race next year.

There may be other upsets, but the Dems have just too many seats to defend to get to 50 or 51 seats, imo.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Actually, Flake DID vote yes...but he waited with his vote until he saw how McCain was going to vote. He voted out of turn to do it. When he saw that McCain voted no, he knew he was safe in voting yes.

I'm very interested in this inference that he was at any point going to vote "no". He has been voting in accordance with the Cheeto in Chief @ 93%.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Flake didn't do himself any general election favors voting for 'skinny'.

If minorities in AZ ever wake up and vote in any election, midterm or POTUS, Flake will lose to a competent DEM, though they're still unannounced in AZ .

Mmm...no, Flake faces the greatest challenge from someone within the GOP at the primary level, and that would be Kelli Ward. Statewide, Dems do not have the votes to counter the GOP for Senate.

 

[Fenton]

How soon GOPs turn on their own. Didn't Flake vote yes on the 'skinny' repeal?

So did Cruz, certainly at risk next year to Rep. O'Rourke, along with Heller and Fischer in NE running under the radar.

You'll be lucky to break even in the Senate, ahead of terrible GOP senate maps in 2020 and 2022.

Instead of repeating election victories the last 4 cycles, could you opine on the upcoming 2017 elections, along with those in 2018? Pretty Please !!

Lol ! You people have been predicting massive GOP losses since 2010, so you'll understand if we continue to ignore your inane blatherings

Nothings changed for Democratic party.

You STILL have nothing to run on, no successes, no working policy examples, no all you have is Trump derangment syndrome and identity politics

Democrats will still be running on Obama's record

Your'e hilarious projections are predicated on your own bias and assumptions that all voters are as butthurt over Hillary's loss as her supporters are

Obviously thats not the case, if TDS has any real influence on voters the Dems wouldnt be 0 -4 in special elections since Trumps inaugeration.

Hell, after spending nearly 30 4illion in Georgia you think Trump hatred would have carried them over the top, but nope.

No one cares

 

[Mason66]

There was a promotional booklet published by Obama's literary agent stating he was born in Kenya.

Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

This had to be approved by Obama himself or it wold not have been published and distributed.

Since we know he was born in Hawaii, we have to ask ourselves, why was he lying in this booklet?

Is lying OK in order to benefit financially from it?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

There was a promotional booklet published by Obama's literary agent stating he was born in Kenya.

Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

This had to be approved by Obama himself or it wold not have been published and distributed.

Since we know he was born in Hawaii, we have to ask ourselves, why was he lying in this booklet?

Is lying OK in order to benefit financially from it?

Why would you post a link to Snopes that shows the publisher admitting it was a mistake? Good grief.