It's time to call it "The Trump Virus"

[George50]

It's not about "blame". It's about bearing responsibility.

The governors bear the responsibility for what happens in their states...not Trump.

The sooner you admit that to yourself, the sooner you will be on your way to thinking for yourself.

Trump bears the responsibility for what happens in America. But in your world that only applies when he is making it great again.

The sooner you admit that to yourself, the sooner you will be on your way to thinking for yourself.


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[Mycroft]

I can't decide if your reading comprehension is lacking or you deliberately twist posts.

It wasn't the citizens of the state I'm talking about it is tRump and the GOP lapdogs in Congress sending out the message the virus is like the flu, work while sick and wearing a mask is for losers- inciting citizens to defy, deny, and then spread the virus like wild fire (which is happening as we speak)... :doh

Yes the federal government was asked repeatedly for access to the federal PPE/medical stockpile and Kushner claimed the stockpile wasn't for the states but 'for us'. THAT is where the states asked for federal help and were told to fend for themselves... :roll:

Just what MEDICAL help did tRump offer??? Only 'offer' I heard was a threat to intervene if some governors refused to open up on the tRump time line- which was right now. I heard tRump claim he had 'total authority' over the governors... :shock:

But he refused to wear a mask like his experts were doing and now Moscow Mitch is doing, he refused to release the stockpile, he peddled bizarre and unproven 'remedies', and he claimed it was over repeatedly as the pandemic stepped up the rate of hospitalization.

I'm thinking you just want to believe the world of 'alternate facts'... eace

yawn...

Blah, blah...

Okay. Whatever your Trump hating media tells you. You run with it.

In the meantime, the rest of us will get on with life. (and reelect the next President)

 

[Jay59]

Be that as it may, it shouldn't be a reason to ignore that all together, but rather assess his actions in that regard. Does it? It didn't seem very clear at all given his rhetoric. I have been paying attention closely to his comments on a variety of subjects, and I'm not sure how you can view his name calling of opponents and other dismissive tactics as a unifying measure. Anyway, this is a thread on the virus so I'll leave it there.

You call it name calling. There is some justice to that. However, it is also pushback against attacks. He is the sole Republican that has gotten way with standing his ground and pushing back. The only one. All the others were destroyed, eg GWBush.

If you cannot be objective, sobeit. Not everyone can or will make the necessary effort. Heaven knows, his attackers will bury you in lockstep verbiage if you choose to let them.

 

[ElChupacabra]

You call it name calling. There is some justice to that. However, it is also pushback against attacks. He is the sole Republican that has gotten way with standing his ground and pushing back. The only one. All the others were destroyed, eg GWBush.

Well I think most people would consider "Sleepy Joe" or "Crooked Hillary" as name calling. As for it being justified, that depends one one's approach. If you find it something that's non productive and childish, then doing the same doesn't make much sense. In his particular case, all it does is just keep feeding the cycle.

If you cannot be objective, sobeit. Not everyone can or will make the necessary effort. Heaven knows, his attackers will bury you in lockstep verbiage if you choose to let them.

I can be objective, but this is a situation where the criteria for what is acceptable to each of us is different.

 

[Jay59]

Well I think most people would consider "Sleepy Joe" or "Crooked Hillary" as name calling.

Crooked Hillary yes. Sleepy Joe, probably not. Neither compares to throwing a racist label out or calling whole states deplorable.

As for it being justified, that depends one one's approach. If you find it something that's non productive and childish, then doing the same doesn't make much sense. In his particular case, all it does is just keep feeding the cycle.

It's very hard to argue that it's non-productive. It is certainly in keeping with what is thrown at him. There sayings about turning things around.

I can be objective, but this is a situation where the criteria for what is acceptable to each of us is different.

You have already said in so many words that your mind is made up. That's the opposite of objective.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Crooked Hillary yes. Sleepy Joe, probably not. Neither compares to throwing a racist label out or calling whole states deplorable.

They're both literally the definition of name calling. Hillary's comments about "deplorables" was directed at a subset of Trump supporters, but either way I'm not a supporter of using generalizations like that.

It's very hard to argue that it's non-productive. It is certainly in keeping with what is thrown at him. There sayings about turning things around.

How is it productive? Issues get reduced to flinging insults instead of being taken into consideration.

You have already said in so many words that your mind is made up. That's the opposite of objective.

I've assessed his successes and failures thus far and in my opinion he doesn't deserve my vote because his leadership style creates way too much chaos. Now unless there's some sea change between now and November, then my assessment will likely not change. I'm not passionately against Trump; I actually hoped he would sort himself out and rise to the occasion, but it's been clear he isn't the type to rise above the fray.

This thread is about the virus, so I'll bring it back around to his performance in that regard. That his talking points reinforce the flouting of prevention protocols is a great example of his inability to see the big picture and only do what helps him among his base.

 

[notquiteright]

yawn... Blah, blah... Okay. Whatever your Trump hating media tells you. You run with it. In the meantime, the rest of us will get on with life. (and reelect the next President)

Yeah inconvenient facts tend to roll right off an ardent tRump partisan. It isn't what the media says, it's the clips of tRump's ramblings, his asinine Tweets, and the medical experts, the efforts in other countries... yanno facts outside the tRumpisphere. But keep believing in tRump, the rest of us don't... eace

 

[eman623]

Trump virus? Trump is a German surname, ergo that's racist against Germans.

 

[jonny5]

The problem is the rising new cases, which will translate into rising hospital admissions, which will translate into rising deaths. This isn't over yet.

We'll see.

 

[Moderate Right]

While every other advanced nation has made progress, in the U.S. it's mainly the corona virus making progress. We owe that in large part to an utter failure of national leadership.

Ex-Bush Aide Lays Blame For New Coronavirus Spike: ‘This Is Trump’s Plague Now’ | HuffPost

Every other nation has been like the US. They have made progress that quit progressing. What is it you want Trump to do, shut the economy down? Then you blame Trump for the depressed economy.