It's Official: Amy Klobuchar has made Biden's finalist list

[Surrealistik]

Biden - 26 presidential contests won (none of them were territories or "Democrats Abroad")
Sanders - 9 contests (7 of them were actual states)
Buttigieg - 1 contest (Iowa)
Bloomberg - 1 contest (American Samoa)

Grumble all you want. Biden is unlikely to lose another contest. Sanders dropped out in early April. Last time, he made it to the convention.

Keep in mind that the report does not say that Klobuchar is the one, just that the Biden team is going to go through the traditional protocol for somebody on the finalist list. We can talk about Val Demings too.

Yes, I'm aware of the current tally; that doesn't belie my point on what happened with ST.

 

[Linc]

For some people. anybody he choose would be a 'tim kaine' pick.

But then again, they wouldn't vote for a democrat, no matter who it was anyway.

No ****. Look who liked his post. The only time he posts here is to be regressive.

Apparently, some folks didn’t notice the Midwest flipped to Trump in 2016 — Iowa, Ohio. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And almost Amy’s Minnesota.

She’s outstanding on legislation, which any potus candidate needs. FWIW, I wanted Sen. Sherrod Brown in 2016.

 

[RAMOSS]

No ****. Look who liked his post. The only time he posts here is to be regressive.

Apparently, some folks didn’t notice the Midwest flipped to Trump in 2016 — Iowa, Ohio. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And almost Amy’s Minnesota.

She’s outstanding on legislation, which any potus candidate needs. FWIW, I wanted Sen. Sherrod Brown in 2016.

Well, Iowa and Ohio are still leaning trump. Penn and wisconson are leaning Biden as is michigan

 

[Michael Cole]

Well, it wasn't really domineered until post ST (remember, Biden only won there by 86ish delegates; easily less than what Klob and Pete were expected to win), and tbh, the abrupt and desperate consolidation of the moderates just prior to ST when Sanders was posed to win it by all accounts and polling then definitely registers as a kind of theft.

That's not what happened. The primary was won not post super Tuesday, but at Jim Clyburn's speech. The consolidation was both a coalition of ideology, and the acceptance of reality. What Klobuchar and Buttigieg did was honorable.

Seeing it as theft reminds me of how a Trumpist would feel.

 

[Surrealistik]

That's not what happened. The primary was won not post super Tuesday, but at Jim Clyburn's speech. The consolidation was both a coalition of ideology, and the acceptance of reality. What Klobuchar and Buttigieg did was honorable.

Seeing it as theft reminds me of how a Trumpist would feel.

That's exactly what happened; it was indeed a desperate, highly coordinated, last minute maneuver among the moderates specifically intended to consolidate the vote so their faction would win ST (and therefore the primary). Clyburn's endorsement kept Biden alive by ensuring the crushing win his campaign sorely needed in Georgia; however this consolidation is specifically and demonstrably, given the margin of victory, what won ST for him. Indeed, without Clyburn, this Biden's campaign might've died post-Georgia, making such a consolidation unviable and unmerited, but what actually swung ST was Klob and Butt dropping out and endorsing.

 

[Michael Cole]

That's exactly what happened; it was indeed a desperate, highly coordinated, last minute maneuver among the moderates specifically intended to consolidate the vote so their faction would win ST (and therefore the primary). Clyburn's endorsement kept Biden alive by ensuring the crushing win his campaign sorely needed in Georgia; however this consolidation is specifically and demonstrably, given the margin of victory, what won ST for him. Indeed, without Clyburn, this Biden's campaign might've died post-Georgia, making such a consolidation unviable and unmerited, but what actually swung ST was Klob and Butt dropping out and endorsing.

I stopped reading where you conflated Jim Clyburn with Georgia.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Amy is alright, although I prefer Harris. Smart, nimble, and tough.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

the point was made to the astute.

More like the ass-tooters.

 

[Lovebug]

Now I'm interested.

 

[poweRob]

Joe Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo VP vetting process: report

Amy Klobuchar is going to go under intense vetting and interviews from the Biden campaign. They are going to see if there are any skeletons in her closet and potential red flags. Other than the fact she has thrown office equipment, like binders, at her staff and ended up eating her meal with a comb one time, I don't think they are going to find much.

When I look at the betting odds, her stock went dramatically up and now pretty even with the favorite Kamala Harris.

What do you guys think of Amy Klobuchar? Is she the right fit for Biden?

Personally I think she's a pretty good fit for him. She's experienced -- been a U.S Senator since 2007 -- and pretty simpatico with Biden's political philosophy. There are no question marks about her age, cognitive abilities, and qualifications. The only issue I see is that, the Bernie Bros are not going to be happy. They want somebody who is progressive or socialist, not a liberal.

They had better hope the disdain for trump is enough to excite the base because this would be a very unexciting, boring and not very motivating pick to get people to the polls.

 

[TobyOne]

Too white for the radicals the democratic party is now controlled by. I'm guessing Susan "I will right a memo to myself to cover my ass" Rice or California nutter Harris.

 

[Drawdown]

Harris is far from beloved, but she definitely rates higher than Amy K as someone from within the progressive camp; Klob is particularly reviled as utterly milquetoast and pro-establishment; effectively as close to being a Hillary surrogate as can be imagined.

Biden is utterly milquetoast and pro-establishment. Harris might register more with token "progressives" just because she is a two-fer and Amy is a one-fer but beyond that she will be an anchor on the Biden campaign.

 

[Superfly]

I read somewhere today that 12 people are currently being vetted, and AK was the first one to tell everyone.

 

[Court Jester]

Amy is alright, although I prefer Harris. Smart, nimble, and tough.

He will never pick Harris--- to polarizing. Besides, Biden will win California anyway, so what would Harris bring to the table that he doesn't already have there?

The VP pick will be a woman from a swing state, one that went for Trump in 2016. Whitmer (MI) or Demings (FL). My money is on Demings as I see her being the only hope to invigorate the Black voters who have incrementally stayed home since 2011.

 

[Linc]

Well, Iowa and Ohio are still leaning trump. Penn and wisconson are leaning Biden as is michigan

That’s why I believe the VP candidate should come out of the Midwest. But that’s me. Trump didn’t need Indiana, but he needed the evangelical Gov. Pence votes in several key states. Do Democrats have a needed clientele?

Democrats have more ‘mini-tents’ to address than GOPS, and they’re working on it. They need to catch up on digital in the worst way. Who can speak to the Economy, Health, and Education?

We’re already seeing the beginnings of the 2nd wave, with more states getting worse than better. People are simply oblivious and in denial to what we’ve entered, a new and challenging era in time.

 

[Michael Cole]

He will never pick Harris--- to polarizing. Besides, Biden will win California anyway, so what would Harris bring to the table that he doesn't already have there?

The VP pick will be a woman from a swing state, one that went for Trump in 2016. Whitmer (MI) or Demings (FL). My money is on Demings as I see her being the only hope to invigorate the Black voters who have incrementally stayed home since 2011.

I like Demings but I'm not sure the swing-state strategy has much effect.

How is Harris polarizing?

 

[CanadaJohn]

So Oprah's not available? LeBron? Hillary not clamoring for another shot? Harvey too risky now that he's a felon?

It amazes me that in a country as great as America, the choices to lead seem so incredibly ungreat. But I should keep quiet, considering the brain dead a-hole we have as a Prime Minister.

 

[Acadia]

The #youoweus crowd is not going to be happy.

 

[Michael Cole]

So Oprah's not available? LeBron? Hillary not clamoring for another shot? Harvey too risky now that he's a felon?

It amazes me that in a country as great as America, the choices to lead seem so incredibly ungreat. But I should keep quiet, considering the brain dead a-hole we have as a Prime Minister.

Oprah and Lebron James. Incredibly ungreat leaders. And that's your idea of sarcasm?

:lamo

Oprah could buy and sell Trump with her spit on the sidewalk. You funny guy

 

[Michael Cole]

The #youoweus crowd is not going to be happy.

I wish they'd stop pretending to be Democrats and start their own party. But hey, we have the GOP taken over by people pretending to be Republicans, so I guess we owe Trump too.

 

[RAMOSS]

I read somewhere today that 12 people are currently being vetted, and AK was the first one to tell everyone.

I also heard about 5 or 6 of those are serious. I give a very good chance that Kamala Harris is on the short list. Those are the two that I think are most likely

 

[BrotherFease]

I read somewhere today that 12 people are currently being vetted, and AK was the first one to tell everyone.

Here’s Who Joe Biden Is Considering For Vice President

Superfly, here are the people who are officially confirmed as being on the shortlist:

Tammy Duckworth - Dick Durbin confirmed
Michelle Lujan Grisham - Biden himself
Gretchen Whitmer - Confirmed herself
Val Demings - Confirmed herself
Maggie Hassan - Confirmed herself
Amy Klobuchar - Reported today.

That's six in the official department. Jeanne Sheehen declined being interviewed and vetted.

Stacey Abrams, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren all polled extremely well among registered Democrats. They are probably on the list too.

Catherine Cortez Masto is rumored to be on the list, due to Harry Reid's "In my top 3" comment, but we haven't heard beyond that.

 

[Linc]

I read somewhere today that 12 people are currently being vetted, and AK was the first one to tell everyone.

Broadband is a huge issue in the heartland of the Midwest and Great Plains in Education. So is safety at meat-packing plants into their communities. AK is Midwest strong on the Issues.

Feels weird in my 11th year of retirement to think about doing remote learning right this moment, all summer, and for an an unknown future. I’ll offer tutoring pro bono to help students online.

Schedule Skype on conference call? All 23 Cal-State colleges are online this fall. Which Democratic VP candidate is the best on the issues like Education, for the Suburban Female vote?

UE benefits will be ended in a few months. That’s when the real panic will begin to kick in. Bunker down. Pray for a miracle until we get a vaccine.

 

[Court Jester]

I like Demings but I'm not sure the swing-state strategy has much effect.

Biden needs to win back some of the states Hillary lost in 2016 like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and to a lesser extent West Virginia. All states Trump turned red in 2016.
Florida is always in play, and interestingly because Trump won all of the states I mentioned above, he still could have lost Florida but still ended up above 270 electoral votes. But being that Florida is 29 electoral votes, a win there for Biden along with a win in either Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania and Biden gets over 270 for a victory. Without Florida Biden has to win all 3 of those states. That is why Florida is more important to this election than California. Biden will get California anyway, he doesn't even need to campaign in that state other than to possibly prevent any congressional districts from slipping away from the dems. So in terms of Harris vs Demings, if the plan is to win the Presidency then he should want Deming as VP. But if it about defending down balloting only and preserving the HofR for dems---- then maybe Harris helps with that, but I don't agree.

How is Harris polarizing?

Well for one she really isn't traditionally looked at by Black voters as really black. Demings does not have that problem. Harris is also pretty shrill by some people's standards, and she certainly was all of that during the debates when she forcefully attacked Joe Biden. Something which if Harris becomes the choice will have a lot of Republican political ads playing 24/7--- Harris attacking Biden.

Harris did really badly too in her run last year for the nomination. It was pretty flat, which is what I alluded to about her being polarizing. Is she popular to dems in California? Sure, but Biden already has all of those votes. If Biden picked Harris I would be stunned. And to add to this I think Harris has a problem with mid western middle America voters, especially gun owning democrat hunters and such. Harris' anti gun rhetoric is pretty big.... again, something polarizing when the plan is to win back some of those fly over / rust belt states so needed by the dems this year.

 

[Michael Cole]

Biden needs to win back some of the states Hillary lost in 2016 like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and to a lesser extent West Virginia. All states Trump turned red in 2016.
Florida is always in play, and interestingly because Trump won all of the states I mentioned above, he still could have lost Florida but still ended up above 270 electoral votes. But being that Florida is 29 electoral votes, a win there for Biden along with a win in either Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania and Biden gets over 270 for a victory. Without Florida Biden has to win all 3 of those states. That is why Florida is more important to this election than California. Biden will get California anyway, he doesn't even need to campaign in that state other than to possibly prevent any congressional districts from slipping away from the dems. So in terms of Harris vs Demings, if the plan is to win the Presidency then he should want Deming as VP. But if it about defending down balloting only and preserving the HofR for dems---- then maybe Harris helps with that, but I don't agree.



Well for one she really isn't traditionally looked at by Black voters as really black. Demings does not have that problem. Harris is also pretty shrill by some people's standards, and she certainly was all of that during the debates when she forcefully attacked Joe Biden. Something which if Harris becomes the choice will have a lot of Republican political ads playing 24/7--- Harris attacking Biden.

Harris did really badly too in her run last year for the nomination. It was pretty flat, which is what I alluded to about her being polarizing. Is she popular to dems in California? Sure, but Biden already has all of those votes. If Biden picked Harris I would be stunned. And to add to this I think Harris has a problem with mid western middle America voters, especially gun owning democrat hunters and such. Harris' anti gun rhetoric is pretty big.... again, something polarizing when the plan is to win back some of those fly over / rust belt states so needed by the dems this year.

I don't disagree with your electoral logic; I'm just not convinced swing state voters are swayed much by home grown nominees. And of course there's a larger strategy to consider.

I don't know a lot about Kamala Harris. I like her intelligence and attitude. The issues you raise could be problematic. I like Val Demings as well. Don't know her either but she did an outstanding job at the impeachment. Smart woman.