Isis militants break out of prison in Syria after bombing by Turkey

[SLC]

ISIS prisoners are escaping because of Donald Trump. Military authorities are also saying that Turkey is deliberately targeting our forces in order to drive them from the region. Trump is objectively making the region more chaotic and the world less safe.

And for what?



Isis militants break out of prison in Syria after bombing by Turkey | The Independent
Pentagon says US forces came under Turkish artillery fire in Syria | WREG.com

So you would agree that Obama's failure to do anything about ISIS like Trump did made the world less safe.

 

[trixare4kids]

There was a logic to the stupidity of George W. Bush's decision to invade Iraq.

No, there was no logic to it at all, but you're right on one count, his reasons were wrong.

It was for a bad reason, but at least he gave a reason. Here there's just...nothing. No sense, no reason. Just impulsive, meaningless stupidity.

Trump gave reasons, so stop manufacturing a fake narrative.
If you don't like his reasons, just say...

 

[trixare4kids]

She approves of Trump pulling out of Syria.

She disapproves of Obama pulling out of Iraq.

She approves of Trump attacking Obama for pulling out while defending Trump for pulling out.

Seems crazy enough to work. The gaslighting is really stupid but some will agree.


Sent from the Matrioshka in the WH Christmas tree.

You've managed, as usual, to get most of the above wrong. Why do you lie?

At this point, and after rethinking the fate of the Kurds, I'd rather Trump rethink his strategy and drop the hammer on Turkish forces both militarily and economically.

 

[SLC]

Gran Mal, Grand Mal, Grand Mal, I hope you didn't hurt yourself when stressing over my opinion though I totally understand why you disregard the relevancy of my stated point.

Perhaps yoga would help you to relax with the cranial thought control impulses?

Maybe a little downward dog pose would help him.

 

[trixare4kids]

She also doesn't seem to care that Isis will be back in business. Another case of "Mission Accomplished?"

Why do you lie?

At this point, and after rethinking the fate of the Kurds, I'd rather Trump rethink his strategy and drop the hammer on Turkish forces both militarily and economically.

 

[Cardinal]

No, I didn't approve of his decision and if you actually read what I write, in retrospect, I said yesterday or the day before that I don't approve of Trump leaving the kurds high and dry either.

And no, there was no false equivalency on my part. I bet you were all for Obama pulling completely out of Iraq.

Ah, so you agree with me, but just wanted to attack me personally for old time's sake.

At least you're consistent.

 

[GDViking]

Oh the phony outrage.

Where was your outrage when Obama prematurely pulled out of Iraq, allowing ISIL to run rampant to grow like a malignant tumor?

Now go ahead and pretend that you liked Obama's foreign policy....

WOW more lies!

We were no longer welcome in Iraq because Obama would not agree to our troops being held responsible for civilian casualties.

Why do cultists constantly try to alter history???

 

[trixare4kids]

Ah, so you agree with me, but just wanted to attack me personally for old time's sake.

At least you're consistent.

Why do you keep lying to yourself?
If I attack you personally, you'll know it.

 

[GDViking]

Got to love this false morality that we keep seeing on the left.

You worship trump and actually bring up "false morality"???

Wow that like saying to a cop during a DUI stop.

Iiiimmmm not drrrruuunnkk, yooooouuurrrreee drrrruuunnkk!!!!

 

[trixare4kids]

WOW more lies!

We were no longer welcome in Iraq because Obama would not agree to our troops being held responsible for civilian casualties.

Why do cultists constantly try to alter history???

The Mess Obama Left Behind in Iraq – Foreign Policy

But is there anything at all to Pence’s claim that Obama, too, bears some blame for squandering, or failing to capitalize on, those “hard-fought gains”? I think there is.

Maliki was the wrong man both for Iraq and the United States, and the administration’s critics argue that after the 2010 parliamentary election in which Maliki lost narrowly to the nonsectarian Iraqi National Movement, American officials could have and should have eased him out. Again, it’s all too easy to exaggerate U.S. leverage. In 2014, Dexter Filkins reported in the New Yorker that Qassem Suleimani, the head of Iran’s Quds Force, brokered a deal among Iraqi leaders to keep Maliki in place. American diplomats then sought to rescue the situation by persuading Maliki to create a new senior post for Iraqi National Movement leader Iyad Allawi; Maliki made sure that Allawi had no real responsibility, and the arrangement quickly collapsed.

But the fact that you can’t do everything doesn’t mean you can’t do anything. Just as Bush virtually abandoned Afghanistan in order to focus on Iraq, the war he really cared about, Obama allowed Iraq to stumble along on its own as he ramped up the “good war” in Afghanistan. Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq in 2007-2009, has argued that since the American presence had kept Iraq’s communities from tearing each other apart, “disengagement brought them all back to zero-sum thinking.” Obama believed that Iraqis would not become self-reliant unless they no longer had the United States around to broker all their disputes. The fact that he has now sent 4,500 troops into the country is the most vivid evidence of how very wrong that hypothesis turned out to be.

At a moment when the American people want to turn their backs on the world, to build walls in order to cultivate their own garden, the president has a strong temptation to convince himself that things will work out well enough on their own or even that an American presence is bound to make things worse. That, broadly, is the stance Obama has adopted in both Iraq and Syria. In fact, the U.S. absence has turned out to be even more toxic than the U.S. presence. I honestly don’t know how the next president, even assuming that it’s Hillary Clinton, will be able to persuade the American people that engagement abroad, even in chaotic and ugly settings, works better than disengagement. She’s going to have to try.

 

[SLC]

And the false morality on the right? You guys were screaming at the top of your lungs about ISIS...why all the silence now?

I have mixed emotions. I like the Kurds but they have been fighting the Turks for hundreds of years. They have had a chance to negotiate a peace but they didn't. Its not our job to protect them from the Turks. I don't want to spill American blood in what is really their dispute. As for ISIS I wish Turkey would just bomb their prison . Let's face it at least the Kurds have some American weapons to fight th Turks with now. I hope they reach a peace settlement with the Turks.

 

[Vern]

Oh the phony outrage.

Where was your outrage when Obama prematurely pulled out of Iraq, allowing ISIL to run rampant to grow like a malignant tumor?

Now go ahead and pretend that you liked Obama's foreign policy....

You know what you're posting is a lie but dishonest watabouts is all you can post.

 

[EnigmaO01]

All good they will end up in Europe not the US according to Trump.

I hope that was sarcastic?

 

[EnigmaO01]

There was a logic to the stupidity of George W. Bush's decision to invade Iraq. It was for a bad reason, but at least he gave a reason. Here there's just...nothing. No sense, no reason. Just impulsive, meaningless stupidity.

 

[Vern]

You hailed Obama as a god when he pulled out of Iraq. He enabled ISIS to expand the way it dif. If not for his decision to cut-n-run, there wouldn't be any ISIS fighterd operating in northern Syria.

AP, you know what you've posted is lie. , Bush created ISIS when lied us into Iraq, chose Maliki as PM, signed the SOFA and then maliki cut the sunnis out of the govt. President Obama tried to keep troops there but they simply wanted us out. Iran, Isis and your conservative masters appreciate your obedience.

 

[SCrider]

I hope that was sarcastic?

My part was, Trump was not....

 

[apdst]

AP, you know what you've posted is lie. , Bush created ISIS when lied us into Iraq, chose Maliki as PM, signed the SOFA and then maliki cut the sunnis out of the govt. President Obama tried to keep troops there but they simply wanted us out. Iran, Isis and your conservative masters appreciate your obedience.

ISIS wasn't in control of anything, until Obama retreated from Iraq in 2011. After that, in less than a year, it conquered a spanse twice the size of Texas.

There's a difference between created and enabled. Know whatta mean, Vern?

 

[EnigmaO01]

Your source says their sources are divided on whether, or not the Turks intentionally fired upon U.S. troops. Let's not start out being dishonest about what your own source says.

Our troops weren't "targetted" since the fire impacted "several hundred meters" from their position.

I'm thinking this would be a great way to enact revenge for the following don't you? I mean you can always pretend it was an accident. And please don't say something dumb like Russia isn't involved.

Report: U.S. Forces Killed More Than 200 Russian Fighters in Syria Attack

 

[apdst]

I'm thinking this would be a great way to enact revenge for the following don't you? I mean you can always pretend it was an accident. And please don't say something dumb like Russia isn't involved.

Report: U.S. Forces Killed More Than 200 Russian Fighters in Syria Attack

Are you saying U.S troops should attack the Turks?

 

[EnigmaO01]

Are you saying U.S troops should attack the Turks?

Reading comprehension was never a strong suit for you here. Go back and read it again. I said nothing of the kind.

What are several hundred special forces doing there if they aren't allowed to do anything except watch the people they trained get picked off?

Doesn't that make them sitting ducks?

Trump Says U.S. Troops Have Quit Syria. It’s Not True.

 

[SCrider]

Reading comprehension was never a strong suit for you here. Go back and read it again. I said nothing of the kind.

What are several hundred special forces doing there if they aren't allowed to do anything except watch the people they trained get picked off?

Doesn't that make them sitting ducks?

Trump Says U.S. Troops Have Quit Syria. It’s Not True.

As anyone could have predicted. Now the Kurds are in talks with Russia and the Syrians.

We still have forces in the area under attack. They told the turks exactly where they are to avoid conflict. Yesterday the Turks launched artillery within close range to our troops.

 

[EnigmaO01]

As anyone could have predicted. Now the Kurds are in talks with Russia and the Syrians.

We still have forces in the area under attack. They told the turks exactly where they are to avoid conflict. Yesterday the Turks launched artillery within close range to our troops.

It was no accident. They were sending a message.

 

[apdst]

Reading comprehension was never a strong suit for you here. Go back and read it again. I said nothing of the kind.

What are several hundred special forces doing there if they aren't allowed to do anything except watch the people they trained get picked off?

Doesn't that make them sitting ducks?

Trump Says U.S. Troops Have Quit Syria. It’s Not True.

So you agree with Trump pulling the troops out?

 

[SCrider]

It was no accident. They were sending a message.

Of course it was.

 

[Vern]

ISIS wasn't in control of anything, until Obama retreated from Iraq in 2011. After that, in less than a year, it conquered a spanse twice the size of Texas.

There's a difference between created and enabled. Know whatta mean, Vern?

oh look work games. And that's on top of your intentional falsehood concerning the fact that President Obama tried to leave troops there. Yea, you've hit bottom. why is your obedience to conservatism more important than your integrity?