Is Trump violating his oath of office?

[Fletch]

What you're saying is that Congress has no right to legislate or investigate the president, when that is explicitly delegated to Congress in the Constitution. If you hate that fact, you need to have it amended. Until then, whine harder.

Thats not what I said. Try to be honest once in a while.

 

[HumblePi]

Says who?
Link?

I'll be happy to provide the link to the U.S. Internal Revenue Code for the release of tax returns;

26 U.S. Code SS 6103 - Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

LII U.S. Code Title 26. INTERNAL REVENUE CODE Subtitle F. Procedure and Administration Chapter 61. INFORMATION AND RETURNS Subchapter B. Miscellaneous Provisions Section 6103. Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information

Returns and return information with respect to taxes imposed by chapters 1, 2, 6, 11, 12, 21, 23, 24, 31, 32, 44, 51, and 52 and subchapter D of chapter 36 shall be open to inspection by, or disclosure to, any State agency, body, or commission, or its legal representative, which is charged under the laws of such State with responsibility for the administration of State tax laws for the purpose of, and only to the extent necessary in, the administration of such laws, including any procedures with respect to locating any person who may be entitled to a refund. Such inspection shall be permitted, or such disclosure made, only upon written request by the head of such agency, body, or commission, and only to the representatives of such agency, body, or commission designated in such written request as the individuals who are to inspect or to receive the returns or return information on behalf of such agency, body, or commission. Such representatives shall not include any individual who is the chief executive officer of such State or who is neither an employee or legal representative of such agency, body, or commission nor a person described in subsection . However, such return information shall not be disclosed to the extent that the Secretary determines that such disclosure would identify a confidential informant or seriously impair any civil or criminal tax investigation.

 

[Luckyone]

Wut...? So you're choosing to ignore the Constitutionally mandated, legitimate legislative purposes of the House? This must be why you're such a huge Trump fan, you hate the Constitution and the way our government was designed to function.

 

[Airyaman]

My point exactly. Trump's talking SCOTUS. Wonder why.

Us vs. Dickey was a SCOTUS decision.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Thats not what I said. Try to be honest once in a while.

Then you have absolutely no reason to question anything I've said in this thread and it's very confusing why you would defend someone saying exactly that. Thanks for wasting my time with your nonsense.

 

[Luckyone]

And Trump is challenging that law.

Yeah, he challenges ALL the laws that he does not agree with. Did our forefathers say in the Constitution that if someone didn't like the Constitution, that he could ignore it?

I thought Trump promised to defend the Constitution, not ignore it. Am I wrong?

 

[Taylor]

You see, congress is granted the power to legislate by the Constitution, meaning any legislation they decide to pass that doesn't violate the Constitution is constitutional.

They are granted a limited power to legislate. Anything outside the scope of those limited powers is by definition unconstitutional.

 

[Incredulous]

I'm having a hard time understanding why some aren't advocating for transparency on the tax return issue.

Additionally, this: Dems clash with Trump officials on subpoenas, tax returns

Tricia Newbold, an 18-year government employee who oversaw the issuance of clearances for some senior White House aides, told the committee earlier this year that she compiled a list of at least 25 officials who were initially denied security clearances last year because of their backgrounds. But she said senior Trump aides overturned those decisions, moves she said weren’t made “in the best interest of national security.”

According to a committee memo, Newbold said the disqualifying issues included foreign influence, conflicts of interest, financial problems, drug use, personal conduct and criminal conduct.

Newbold said she raised her concerns up the chain of command in the White House to no avail. Instead, she said, the White House retaliated, suspending her in January for 14 days without pay for not following a new policy requiring that documents be scanned as separate PDF files rather than one single PDF file. Kline was Newbold’s supervisor.

Newbold said when she returned to work in February, she was cut out of the security clearance process and removed from a supervisory responsibility.

And now the White House has instructed Kline not to cooperate...suspicious.

 

[GDViking]

If he's cognitively dysfunctional, he definitely shouldn't be president.

But I expect the Republicans would keep him on and pretend they didn't know.

Ala Reagan...

 

[The Mark]

Red:
Depending on what's discovered regarding his inaugural committee's actions, it's possible first "convenient" moment occurred less than 24 hours after his inauguration.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was 30 seconds later.

 

[GDViking]

Except Trump wasnt 'complicit with Russian interference.'

That is not what the report said, it said they couldn't prove it,not that it didn't happen.

 

[GDViking]

And Mueller is sure to find collusion. :roll:

And he did, are you going to keep pretending the report does not exist???

 

[The Mark]

And he did, are you going to keep pretending the report does not exist???

Technically they didn't because collusion has no legal meaning, which I think is why the narrative about collusion was continued by Trump - since collusion was never going to be found, trump & crew were technically right that they didn't find any.

Now....that doesn't mean there were no attempts to do things that most people would consider "collusion".

 

[apdst]

In his oath he vows to uphold the constitution and laws of our country. I am not sure about the constitution, but he is certainly not upholding the laws when he openly violates them by ordering the Treasury department to withhold his tax returns. I would think that at some point that even Trumpsters would see the light that this president not only doe not know anything about our constitution and our laws, but feels they do no apply to him. I am sorry to say, that the trumpsters though will never see it and that brings shame to our country. I wonder what the Trumpsters will do when the courts rule that Trump has to follow the laws and he refuses.

Is that all you have? :lamo

 

[apdst]

That is not what the report said, it said they couldn't prove it,not that it didn't happen.

Did you think about that before you posted it?

 

[Fletch]

That is not what the report said, it said they couldn't prove it,not that it didn't happen.

Maybe you are new to this country, but that is how the justice system works. We have the presumption of innocence. If someone accuses you of something and an investigation cannot find evidence you are guilty, you get to go free and proclaim your innocence.

 

[jnug]

Thread title: Is Trump violating his oath of office?

i think you might have wanted to turn this into a poll asking how many times a day he violates his oath of office:
- less than 5 times
- more than 5 times
- more than 10 times

Sort of like that.
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[humbolt]

What is the bolded meant to convey?

It means their only interest is partisan attacks on Trump, and has no relation at all to their constitutionally defined responsibilities. You already know that, but you'll argue otherwise.

 

[humbolt]

Wut...? So you're choosing to ignore the Constitutionally mandated, legitimate legislative purposes of the House? This must be why you're such a huge Trump fan, you hate the Constitution and the way our government was designed to function.

Uh huh. Why don't you describe their intentions and relate them to their constitutionally defined responsibilities for everyone. Please don't start with the oversight BS.

 

[Irwin Corey]

Is Trump violating his oath of office?

To quote General George Patton: "EVERY God Damn Day!"

 

[Airyaman]

It means their only interest is partisan attacks on Trump, and has no relation at all to their constitutionally defined responsibilities. You already know that, but you'll argue otherwise.

What are they supposed to do, ignore their oversight responsibilities like the GOP did for 2 years?

 

[ocean515]

In his oath he vows to uphold the constitution and laws of our country. I am not sure about the constitution, but he is certainly not upholding the laws when he openly violates them by ordering the Treasury department to withhold his tax returns. I would think that at some point that even Trumpsters would see the light that this president not only doe not know anything about our constitution and our laws, but feels they do no apply to him. I am sorry to say, that the trumpsters though will never see it and that brings shame to our country. I wonder what the Trumpsters will do when the courts rule that Trump has to follow the laws and he refuses.

Upholding the laws of the Nation includes fighting the actions of political ideologues who are trying to violate the Constitutional rights of US Citizens.

 

[humbolt]

What are they supposed to do, ignore their oversight responsibilities like the GOP did for 2 years?

They could understand that investigating private finances without a clear legislative purpose is unconstitutional. That would be a great starting point.

 

[jnug]

They could understand that investigating private finances without a clear legislative purpose is unconstitutional. That would be a great starting point.

The Congress can ask for any tax return, your's...mine...Trump's. It's well within their Oversight responsibilities. Nothing unconstitutional about it.

 

[gdgyva]

In his oath he vows to uphold the constitution and laws of our country. I am not sure about the constitution, but he is certainly not upholding the laws when he openly violates them by ordering the Treasury department to withhold his tax returns. I would think that at some point that even Trumpsters would see the light that this president not only doe not know anything about our constitution and our laws, but feels they do no apply to him. I am sorry to say, that the trumpsters though will never see it and that brings shame to our country. I wonder what the Trumpsters will do when the courts rule that Trump has to follow the laws and he refuses.

i have asked in 4 different threads, and NOT one person has answered the question to MY satisfaction

Exactly what are they looking for? What crime do they think he committed, and what will his returns show?

not a fishing expedition....an actual we want to see x to prove y

no one can say that....which is why this is bogus, and should be challenged