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Is Man Made Climate Change Contributing to Extreme Tropical Storms?

Is Man Made Climate Change Contributing to Extreme Tropical Storms?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 61.3%

  • No

    Votes: 25 31.3%

  • JOHN CENA IS CONTRIBUTING AN A** WHOOPING

    Votes: 6 7.5%
  • Total voters
    80
Moderate Right said:
I defy you to definitely prove that man is a major player in global warming. All you have is circumstantial evidence. Just because it's been getting worse over the last few decades may only be coincidental to fossil fuel emissions and you can't prove what percentage man is responsible for. As I said in another post, we have many more M&M's over the last few decades. Does that prove that M&M's are the cause of global warming? The left jumps to conclusions to serve their own agenda.
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That won't work dude. Prove your assertion, then we'll get to me.
 
jet57 said:
Prove your assertion or cede the argument.

THEN we'll get to me.
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YOU'RE the one who can't prove your original argument. You have already ceded. You started it. It's your job to prove your case then we will get to my rebuttal. I'll be waiting breathlessly.
 
Moderate Right said:
I defy you to definitely prove that man is a major player in global warming. All you have is circumstantial evidence. Just because it's been getting worse over the last few decades may only be coincidental to fossil fuel emissions and you can't prove what percentage man is responsible for. As I said in another post, we have many more M&M's over the last few decades. Does that prove that M&M's are the cause of global warming? The left jumps to conclusions to serve their own agenda.
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I can post charts and graphs. I can post the huge numbers of scientists and scientific organizations. I can post joint statements from experts from the scientific community. To what point? You are going to the fossil fuel lobby for your information, and the billions that they are spending to influence you.

You see, I can tell from your tone, that you are not open to actually studying the issues for yourself.
 
Media_Truth said:
I can post charts and graphs. I can post the huge numbers of scientists and scientific organizations. I can post joint statements from experts from the scientific community. To what point? You are going to the fossil fuel lobby for your information, and the billions that they are spending to influence you.

You see, I can tell from your tone, that you are not open to actually studying the issues for yourself.
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All you can post are assumptions and conclusions that since every year there are more M&M's and global warming gets worse every year, M&M's are therefore responsible for global warming. There are also many scientists who say that man is only a small percentage of global warming and that man can do nothing more than put a dent in it. I've already seen all of the so called evidence a million times over. It is nothing more than assumption, conjecture, and conclusions which break the chain of evidence requirements. In other words, you can easily argue that M&M's are responsible for global warming.
 
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Winston said:
Is man made climate change contributing to the level of intensity of tropical storms?

Yes or no?
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my speculation is that it is contributing to the volatility and general strangeness of weather. the oceans absorb a lot of heat (as well as CO2, but that part doesn't matter as much for the purposes of this discussion.) if there's more heat, that means warmer oceans, and an arguably significant chunk of our weather originates over oceans.
 
Winston said:
Is man made climate change contributing to the level of intensity of tropical storms?

Yes or no?
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No one can answer that question until you contextualize it. More intense than what and when?
 
Media_Truth said:
Your data is from where?
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I'll let you know (there's quite a few sources for my claim) but let's focus on your chart for now, all right?
My question was why didn't the models forecast the warming pause.
In what we assume is an attempt to answer, you posted an unattributed (whose?) bar chart of sorts that you must think shows ... what exactly?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
You can start it at any year you want, it doesn't change the fact that the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has effects on the environment and climate, and that humans dump CO2 into the atmosphere.
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I always relate to the power factor. If the temperature of the water and air increases, they both contain more power. When tropical stormz brew, they are a culmination of water and air and their power is automatically increased by more power in the water and air. I don't know if that can cause storms, but when they develop, they have more destructive potential, because they are water and air with more power (heat).
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jet57 said:
Your post is ridiculous. You know nothing about big storms thousands of years ago. The science is in: global warming is real phenomenon and our part in it is effecting the latitude where we live.

I defy you to prove otherwise.
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I was just checking.
The fact that you weren't aware of the recurrence of the various natural oscillations pretty much takes you out of the category of posters-to-be-taken-seriously on yet another topic.
"I defy you to prove otherwise."
 
longview said:
It does not paint it in a good light, maybe a lie is a bit strong, but certainty not a major threat.
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What do you call it when someone intentionally alters historical fact to achieve a desired result?
 
Winston said:
Is man made climate change contributing to the level of intensity of tropical storms?

Yes or no?
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No, everything dealing with climate and the weather goes in cycles. If man is causing anything to do with climate change it is cutting down the rain forest, woods, building suburbs, urban sprawl over farm land and what was once forests with tons of vegetation. We're so busy changing plant life out, CO2 soaking plant life and replacing it with asphalt and concrete.

I would guess if the rain forest were as big as they were at the turn of the 20th century, that cities were contained to where they were then, that our woods, forest and farm land was about the same, we would be talking about climate change. If man is causing climate change, this is it, asphalt, concrete, urban sprawl, suburbs, shopping malls, etc.
 
apdst said:
What do you call it when someone intentionally alters historical fact to achieve a desired result?
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I agree some people are not being truthful, but many of the scientist are presenting their findings, only to have those "adjusted"
by the editors.
 
longview said:
I agree some people are not being truthful, but many of the scientist are presenting their findings, only to have those "adjusted"
by the editors.
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Probably, but at the same time we don't see those scientists going public saying, "hold up, that isn't exactly what I said", either.
 
Perotista said:
No, everything dealing with climate and the weather goes in cycles. If man is causing anything to do with climate change it is cutting down the rain forest, woods, building suburbs, urban sprawl over farm land and what was once forests with tons of vegetation. We're so busy changing plant life out, CO2 soaking plant life and replacing it with asphalt and concrete.

I would guess if the rain forest were as big as they were at the turn of the 20th century, that cities were contained to where they were then, that our woods, forest and farm land was about the same, we would be talking about climate change. If man is causing climate change, this is it, asphalt, concrete, urban sprawl, suburbs, shopping malls, etc.
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If you use the quadrupling of the world's population (2.5B to 10B) over 150 years as the primary problem definition then the possible solution set changes completely. If you keep the primary problem definition as a rise in CO2 emissions produced by those humans (that just happens to fit your desired solution set?) then you are said to be using "accepted science". That, of course, implies that while human population growth (and its effect on many, many variables as you noted above) is surely "science" it is simply not "accepted science". ;)
 
ttwtt78640 said:
If you use the quadrupling of the world's population (2.5B to 10B) over 150 years as the primary problem definition then the possible solution set changes completely. If you keep the primary problem definition as a rise in CO2 emissions produced by those humans (that just happens to fit your desired solution set?) then you are said to be using "accepted science". That, of course, implies that while human population growth (and its effect on many, many variables as you noted above) is surely "science" it is simply not "accepted science". ;)
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I fully expect man to continue to destroy the vegetation and holler about the increasing CO2 in the atmosphere. Such is life.
 
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