fair enough. no one who is demonstratively sane is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality
fair enough. no one who is demonstratively sane is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality
I believe that it is a sin according to the Bible. I also believe it's unnatural.
given that it is not their actions that are limited, but rather those of the county clerks, i would have to disagree. certainly i think you would heartily oppose any claims of the same "nose-bopping" with regards to other relationships that you do not wish to recognize as "marriage".
:shrug: if you wish.
given that it is not their actions that are limited, but rather those of the county clerks, i would have to disagree. certainly i think you would heartily oppose any claims of the same "nose-bopping" with regards to other relationships that you do not wish to recognize as "marriage".
this is absolutely incorrect due to the subjective nature of "just cause". for example, I say you have no just cause to vote against me having the ability to stock my house with rockets, launchers, and heavy-machines guns. you are limiting what I can do without just cause, only your interpretation of what is acceptable, and it doesn't hit your nose or anyone else's what I do in my own house.
no one is arguing we should criminalize homosexuality.
Is it wrong? Yes by my view it is. I also see it as natural but it does go against the norm of society and to a degree nature. In nature animals procreate to continue the species, homosexuality makes this impossible and two males or females cannot breed. So it is as natural as any mutation that serves no real purpose, because it is still found in nature.
I read an article the other day about a lizard species in which every member is female and reproduce without sexual intercourse. These lady lizards often performed simulated sex as on one another. So...yeah...not every species uses sex as a means of reproduction.
We're neither lizards, nor seahorses, nor mandrakes, Tessaesque.
No we are humans. The vast majority of humans have sex for pleasure. In fact, most have sex for pleasure far more often than they do to try to procreate.
No we are humans. The vast majority of humans have sex for pleasure. In fact, most have sex for pleasure far more often than they do to try to procreate.
Is homosexuality sinful?
Yes. The Bible is very clear regarding this matter.
Is this a value-judgment of homosexual persons?
No. The Bible is very clear regarding this matter.
All people--including gay-folks--are made in the image of God and are precious to Him.
There are scientific studies that show that most likely homosexuality existed millions and million of years "before" the human species evolved.
But on a more modern note. Homosexuality is currently observed in animals. This said. People are animals. I know, I know... but we are.
I think you just said that God is gay. :2razz:
appeal to nature....logical fallacy.
appeal to nature....logical fallacy.
Wanna "splain that?
But isn't it part of the OP as to whether the act is natural or not? How exactly do you prove something is natural or not without bringing nature into the discussion?
Don't get me wrong, I understand that natural is a subjective term, but it doesn't seem right to say that something is a logical fallacy when it is referencing the very definition of the word natural.
natural - definition of natural by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
If we were talking in a context of laws for/against homosexuality, sure I can see appeal to nature fallacy. In fact, this whole thread could be pretty much seen as an appeal to nature fallacy since it equates sin/right/wrong/morality arguments with something being natural/unnatural, but his specific argument is just identifying why homosexuality could be viewed as natural, not right/wrong/sinful/moral.