Is Hillary Clinton a scumbag?

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We all push for our ideal utopias that will never exist, why can you, communists, socialists, leftists, all can push for your ideal dependent class societies but a libertarian can't push more towards free markets? how is it only you can push for an unrealistic absolute?

Democratic socialism is not a fantasy the way that libertarianism is. There are many countries, well functioning and with a happy populous, that define themselves as such. So, no, we don't ALL push for unrealistic utopias. It's the same reason that I couldn't call myself a communist. Communism is a fantasy that ignores human nature. So, when you lump communists with socialists and leftists, in general, it's like lumping Santa Clause in with a guy who just donates to an orphanage every christmas.

I did no such thing, he was impeached for lying about an innapropriate relationship with an intern.

Well, if you do understand the distinction between Moore and Bill Clinton, you didn't make that obvious.

I think moore is a scumbag and have said so multiple times for months now.

But, you think he should be elected and then, if the people decide they don't like having a scumbag represent them, they can impeach him, right? Why not have our candidates vetted better and deliberately NOT vote for a moron? Maybe because the people of Alabama can't recognize one.

I find thus far trumps accusers to be not believable. Show me something believable.

Sure, twelve individual women are conspiring to bring down a guy who has admitted to as much as he's been accused of. I find your denial to be an insult to the intelligence of the American public. If I had twelve women accusing ME of sexual misconduct, my ass would be in jail. The personal testimony of victims is usually, when the victimizer isn't wealthy and a phony christian, enough to be considered solid evidence. Obviously, your agenda does not accept the fact that our current president is the worst human being ever elected in my lifetime.

Who's not on my radar? You and your ilk whine whenever hillary is brought up, or any democrat in these discussions, I started a thread, as often asked to discuss hillary, and you all are still all butthurt about it.

Your ilk are the guys who are hysterical ninnies when some liberal offends but suddenly lose your ability to judge character when it's one of yours. Hillary did NOT win the election and is NOT being accused, by anyone, of sexual misconduct. Therefore, your post is a red herring or a distraction from the facts as they stand today, which seem to point to Donald J. Trump being a serial sexual offender. And, while many of the other public officials are resigning for lesser accusations, your boy Trump remains indifferent to his own guilt. So, what we have here is the party of personal responsibility not taking ANY.

What a joke for you to point a finger at Hillary while your own molester in chief sits by immune to your judgements. If you guys had an ounce of moral integrity, it wouldn't be that way.

 

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Democratic socialism is not a fantasy the way that libertarianism is. There are many countries, well functioning and with a happy populous, that define themselves as such. So, no, we don't ALL push for unrealistic utopias. It's the same reason that I couldn't call myself a communist. Communism is a fantasy that ignores human nature. So, when you lump communists with socialists and leftists, in general, it's like lumping Santa Clause in with a guy who just donates to an orphanage every christmas.

Supporting freer markets is not a fantasy, whenever it's done everyone does better.

Well, if you do understand the distinction between Moore and Bill Clinton, you didn't make that obvious.

/facepalm

But, you think he should be elected and then, if the people decide they don't like having a scumbag represent them, they can impeach him, right? Why not have our candidates vetted better and deliberately NOT vote for a moron? Maybe because the people of Alabama can't recognize one.

When did I say that?

Sure, twelve individual women are conspiring to bring down a guy who has admitted to as much as he's been accused of. I find your denial to be an insult to the intelligence of the American public. If I had twelve women accusing ME of sexual misconduct, my ass would be in jail. The personal testimony of victims is usually, when the victimizer isn't wealthy and a phony christian, enough to be considered solid evidence. Obviously, your agenda does not accept the fact that our current president is the worst human being ever elected in my lifetime.

No, your ass wouldn't. because we have the presumption of innocence in this country. he did not admit to any sexual assault, that's a lie and the stories of the women, are simply not believable or don't amount to sexual abuse "ogling me at a beauty pageant" for one.

Your ilk are the guys who are hysterical ninnies when some liberal offends but suddenly lose your ability to judge character when it's one of yours. Hillary did NOT win the election and is NOT being accused, by anyone, of sexual misconduct. Therefore, your post is a red herring or a distraction from the facts as they stand today, which seem to point to Donald J. Trump being a serial sexual offender. And, while many of the other public officials are resigning for lesser accusations, your boy Trump remains indifferent to his own guilt. So, what we have here is the party of personal responsibility not taking ANY.

Thread is about hillary to prove your ilk a bunch of raging hypocrites.


I don't like trump. I can give you a list of positions I disagree with him on and have done so before. you all get butthurt in other threads when hillary is brought up and whine "start a thread on her". so I did and your still throwing a tantrum.

What a joke for you to point a finger at Hillary while your own molester in chief sits by immune to your judgements. If you guys had an ounce of moral integrity, it wouldn't be that way.

Show me the strongest case of abuse against trump. right now. and I'll show you how the story doesn't have any witnesses, the story has holes or information that's simply not true or possible, or doesn't rise to abuse.


I will be right there with you, if it's shown any of them to be true, thus far, it's been lacking on evidence.

 

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Supporting freer markets is not a fantasy, whenever it's done everyone does better.

Wrong! It's never "done", because it's about UN-DOING civility, and it never makes things better. Can't you see that your version of "free" is the freedom for the rich to exploit the poor and their environment. It's not a new thing, it's as old as slavery, feudalism and every other synonym for what you desire. In fact, in the countries that are free in the way you seem to prefer, slavery is still a reality and it's no coincidence. Freedom can't ever mean a lack of disincentives to servitude and spoil. That way of defining terms is Orwellian and straight from the fascist's dictionary.

When did I say that?

When you excused Moore by saying that Clinton was impeached.

No, your ass wouldn't. because we have the presumption of innocence in this country. he did not admit to any sexual assault, that's a lie and the stories of the women, are simply not believable or don't amount to sexual abuse "ogling me at a beauty pageant" for one.

Yes I would. If twelve women went to the police to report that I had done something sexually inappropriate, I would be arrested. Are you kidding me? Why is it so hard for you to admit there is a two-tiered justice system whereby the rich and famous can get away with this **** for years with no real consequences? The evidence is all around those who don't refuse to see.

Talk about your true believers.

Thread is about hillary to prove your ilk a bunch of raging hypocrites.

That's the thing. It proves nothing because Hillary isn't of MY ilk, she's of the rich and famous ilk. So, if your sadly stupid point is that rich famous liberals get away with the same **** that rich famous conservatives do, you're wasting your time. I'm not trying to equivocate like you are.

Hillary defending her husband is not the same as the oh-so-holy citizens of Alabama defending a serial sexual predator of girls. There is absolutely NO moral equivalence there. Hillary is one bitch, perhaps in denial too, but not a party who calls itself the party of family values. I guess rape starts families too.

I don't like trump. I can give you a list of positions I disagree with him on and have done so before. you all get butthurt in other threads when hillary is brought up and whine "start a thread on her". so I did and your still throwing a tantrum.

I never encouraged you to start any threads and, in fact, I wish you hadn't. It's a waste of honest discourse to listen to you pile invective laden BS on the loser.

Show me the strongest case of abuse against trump. right now. and I'll show you how the story doesn't have any witnesses, the story has holes or information that's simply not true or possible, or doesn't rise to abuse.

Are the victims not witness to their own assault? You realize, don't you, that most rapists and molesters don't do it brazenly in front of many witnesses? In fact, your demand for witnesses to rape is as absurd as your claim that Hillary is as much a scumbag as the predator that still holds office.

I will be right there with you, if it's shown any of them to be true, thus far, it's been lacking on evidence.

You know, some times justice can't wait for someone to discover a video of a crime being committed. If I were the father of one of the victims, my daughter's word would be sufficient for me to act. I most certainly don't believe it's a conspiracy. There are too many victims for that to be the case. You Trump apologists are grasping at straws rather than accept the sickness of your boy Trump.

 

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Wrong! It's never "done", because it's about UN-DOING civility, and it never makes things better. Can't you see that your version of "free" is the freedom for the rich to exploit the poor and their environment. It's not a new thing, it's as old as slavery, feudalism and every other synonym for what you desire. In fact, in the countries that are free in the way you seem to prefer, slavery is still a reality and it's no coincidence. Freedom can't ever mean a lack of disincentives to servitude and spoil. That way of defining terms is Orwellian and straight from the fascist's dictionary.

I don't really have the interest to fix your ignorance here.

When you excused Moore by saying that Clinton was impeached.

Don't be a liar.

Yes I would. If twelve women went to the police to report that I had done something sexually inappropriate, I would be arrested. Are you kidding me? Why is it so hard for you to admit there is a two-tiered justice system whereby the rich and famous can get away with this **** for years with no real consequences? The evidence is all around those who don't refuse to see.

If the stories did not make sense, or had any evidence, no, you wouldn't. there is a two tiered justice system which is why hillary, which has a mountain of actual evidence, isn't sitting in prison. but that's not relevant to your argument.

That's the thing. It proves nothing because Hillary isn't of MY ilk, she's of the rich and famous ilk. So, if your sadly stupid point is that rich famous liberals get away with the same **** that rich famous conservatives do, you're wasting your time. I'm not trying to equivocate like you are.

but you voted for her.

Hillary defending her husband is not the same as the oh-so-holy citizens of Alabama defending a serial sexual predator of girls. There is absolutely NO moral equivalence there. Hillary is one bitch, perhaps in denial too, but not a party who calls itself the party of family values. I guess rape starts families too.

Setting up a war room and attacking the accusers is a little more than simply defending her rapist husband.

I never encouraged you to start any threads and, in fact, I wish you hadn't. It's a waste of honest discourse to listen to you pile invective laden BS on the loser.

You are free not to respond, I don't have any requirements for you to post in my threads.

Are the victims not witness to their own assault? You realize, don't you, that most rapists and molesters don't do it brazenly in front of many witnesses? In fact, your demand for witnesses to rape is as absurd as your claim that Hillary is as much a scumbag as the predator that still holds office.

When the stories don't make sense, you need witnesses, otherwise it's he said, she said. Post your strongest case against trump. I dare you.

You know, some times justice can't wait for someone to discover a video of a crime being committed. If I were the father of one of the victims, my daughter's word would be sufficient for me to act. I most certainly don't believe it's a conspiracy. There are too many victims for that to be the case. You Trump apologists are grasping at straws rather than accept the sickness of your boy Trump.

I didn't vote for trump, communist. Show me which accusation against trump, even has enough evidence to go to trial. just one.

 

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I didn't vote for trump, communist. Show me which accusation against trump, even has enough evidence to go to trial. just one.

Communist? Gosh, it's like you can't help but think magically about everything. I already told you that communism is as much a fantasy as free market conservatism. Clearly, you think it's a slander, though, so I won't deprive you of your petty insult. Say whatever inane crap comes to mind, the truth is not kind to your political religion.

BTW, it's Mueller's job to gather the necessary evidence to try this president for his treason. I can see how badly you desire it to not be true so I hope that when the truth is finally known you will be man enough to admit it. I'm not holding my breath, though.