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It's rampant, especially if one uses the definition from the OP.
Stop advantaging pupils of parents with an elevated social background? Since the majority of our schools are public, there's no such thing. Pupils are "advantaged," mostly, because their parents actually give a damn.
First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will be able see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s,
-- mathew, something or other.
1. That's a very (pervasive) surface analysis of hip-hop and rap. Rap, like every other form of art, tells stories. It is a reflection of the environment it is coming from. Therefore, to hold art responsible for inequality is wrongheaded. Such art may perpetuate problems that are already there, but it does not cause them. Therefore, the more important question to ask is why are the problems that rap and hip-hop describe there in the first place.For that specific example, how much of it is racism and how much of it is the rap/hip-hop culture that shuns learning and real work and berates blacks who are trying as being "too white" for trying to succeed?
Sorry if I hurt your nationalistic feelings, by implying that even non-Americans might be able to comment on American topics.
Just tought it might be beneficial for all of us if we exchanged experiences. My bad.
It's not unfair to say that racism exists in the USA. Anybody with an IQ above 10 can see that.I can assure you, it's pretty much impossible to hurt my feelings. I never implied you shouldn't comment on american topics. i hoped to show you how you, quite unfiarly, jumped to the conclusion that racism exists in the USa, but you freely equivocate when it comes to turks, siting cultural issues/ hence the comment WELCOME TO AMERICA. As in, you are in the same place we are.
In some parts yes, in other parts no.
DP is mainly an American focused site. When you visit sites that talk about international politics, race does not come up as much.
America is hooked on talking about race.
I can assure you, it's pretty much impossible to hurt my feelings. I never implied you shouldn't comment on american topics. i hoped to show you how you, quite unfiarly, jumped to the conclusion that racism exists in the USa, but you freely equivocate when it comes to turks, siting cultural issues/ hence the comment WELCOME TO AMERICA. As in, you are in the same place we are.
Just for the record: I don't think America is a particularly racist country. .
2. You are correct that some factions within hip-hop culture berate successful blacks as "too white." It is, however, inaccurate to generalize the culture as doing that as a whole.
Commercial anything is meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Hardly any of it - whether pop, country, alternative, et al. - is intellectual. Thus, singling commercial rap out as an anti-intellectual doesn't make any sense.While I agree with this, and the point about it being a symptom and not a cause, I would say commercial rap is pretty comfortable in the anti-intellectual bandwagon, and usually is just mired in various forms of ignorance. And as a long time fan of hi hop and rap, the quality is just ****.
Honestly, much of it has no redeeming value
Does institutional racism currently exist in America?
Commercial anything is meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Hardly any of it - whether pop, country, alternative, et al. - is intellectual. Thus, singling commercial rap out as an anti-intellectual doesn't make any sense.
Sounds like: "If we don't talk about race, racism will go away." Is that an accurate interpretation of your comment?
And it doesn't stop Barry and company from exploiting race whenever it suits their purpose.
From a black man such as yourself, that is pathetic.
From a black man such as yourself, that is pathetic.
Does institutional racism currently exist in America?
Doesn't matter in terms of what we were talking about. You said commercial rap was anti-intellectual. I said most genres of commercial music are anti-intellectual. This is true and the fact that some rap music is violent doesn't change that. You're original point about commercial rap being anti-intellectual is still meaningless since the label can be applied to every commercial genre of music.Sure it does. Being pop country isn't producing stuff like this:
Lil Boosie - We Out Chea (Official Video) - YouTube
or shooting each other and glorifying gangculture
From a non-American perspective:
As far as I know, the African American average regarding education and income is still significantly lower than that of white Americans. Since I don't buy the racist "genetically inferior" explanation, my best guess is that it does at least partly have to do with institutional racism (as defined in the link in the OP). Sounds like a reasonable explanation to me on first glance. But I'm open for better explanations.
What's inferior is their education, by and large. 70% of blacks live in the inner-city or "inner-ring cities." Those schools are failing.
RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Background Readings | PBS
Doesn't matter in terms of what we were talking about. You said commercial rap was anti-intellectual. I said most genres of commercial music are anti-intellectual. This is true and the fact that some rap music is violent doesn't change that. You're original point about commercial rap being anti-intellectual is still meaningless since the label can be applied to every commercial genre of music.
Doesn't matter in terms of what we were talking about. You said commercial rap was anti-intellectual. I said most genres of commercial music are anti-intellectual. This is true and the fact that some rap music is violent doesn't change that. You're original point about commercial rap being anti-intellectual is still meaningless since the label can be applied to every commercial genre of music.