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In Sexist/Racist/Dictatorial Billionaire Bloomberg, Do Democrats Embrace All They Fear In Trump?

3leftsdoo said:
Bloomie's biggest problem media-wise?

He has 0 personality.

If he's the nominee...

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yeah he is about as charismatic as bob dole.
 
3leftsdoo said:
All the free speech money can buy...

I think Bloomie is first and foremost a danger to the Democrat Party, and - ironically & my central point - all that the Democrats say they fear in Trump & then some.

Bloomie = Autocrat who obliterated term limits

Bloomie = Racist, sexist pig

Bloomie = In the bag for China (vastly more dangerous than Russia)

Bloomie = Super rich white male in the *party of diversity*

The optics alone would sink him if his one man basket of deplorables history didn't.

Beware all ye Democrats!

And I WILL be saying "I told you so!" to all Democrats from November til the end of the year if they go with him.

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No matter who wins, the Dems are fighting an uphill battle. Strong economy, personal satisfaction ratings are at 90%.

So who do you like? Bernie? If the Dems go with him a lot of people will be saying "I told you so" if he loses in November, which seems fairly likely to me.
 
3leftsdoo said:
The answer would certainly appear to be yes, and in so doing, the last vestige of Democrat credibility is demolished.

Trump controls some hotels, Bloomberg a vast media empire.

Which man is more dangerous to democracy?

Trump MAY be a multi-millionaire; Bloomberg IS a multi-billionaire.

Which man is more dangerous to democracy?

Trump once said he might not honor unfair election results; Bloomberg bought the New York City mayoralty 3 times.

Which man is more dangerous to Democracy?

Trump has joked about serving more than two terms as president; Bloomberg obliterated term limits in New York City.

Which man is more dangerous to democracy?

Trump supports enforcing our borders against illegal entry; Bloomberg supports redlining and stop & frisk for minority citizens.

Which man is more dangerous to democracy?

Trump was once secretly recorded bragging about his sexual prowess with women; Bloomberg's own employee created a book of demeaning sexist spewings by Bloomberg.

Which man is more dangerous to democracy?

Democrats say they seek diversity in representation, but rejected numerous candidates of color in their primaries, including their best chance to beat Trump in the extraordinary Tulsi Gabbard.

What do Democrats really stand for?

Democrats say they oppose Citizens United, but are prepared to support one of the richest men in the world as he seeks to buy the most powerful position in the world.

What do Democrats really stand for?

Will Democrat hysteria over the imaginary evil of Trump cause them to embrace the actual evil of Bloomberg?

And will this be the final self-inflicted death blow to their party?
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Republicans should be comforted a successful businessman has entered the mix, no? If they think success in business means a candidate will replicate that for the nation that is. Here's one who is even more successful than the current one. From the GOP perspective, it's that business sense which will temper some of the more ambitious social programs. Plus he ran as Republican and won in a city which typically votes Democratic.

Plus he's got a catchy nickname: Bloombito
:)

I'm in the Caribbean and he's got the ads running on Spanish TV networks.
 
eman623 said:
No matter who wins, the Dems are fighting an uphill battle. Strong economy, personal satisfaction ratings are at 90%.

So who do you like? Bernie? If the Dems go with him a lot of people will be saying "I told you so" if he loses in November, which seems fairly likely to me.
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Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of US politics knows the Democrat can't win.

So it's about making a token pass at cleaning up the 2016 crime scene by nominating Bernie rather than dropping a massive nuke on the party by nominating Bloombag.

Anyone who says "I told you so" if Bernie is nominated & loses is an idiot.

By contrast, MY *I told you so* is not so much about the inevitability of Bloombag losing, but about what he'll do to the party if he's the nominee.

Bernie = Win/Lose

Bloombag = Lose/Lose
 
ElChupacabra said:
Republicans should be comforted a successful businessman has entered the mix, no? If they think success in business means a candidate will replicate that for the nation that is. Here's one who is even more successful than the current one. From the GOP perspective, it's that business sense which will temper some of the more ambitious social programs.
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I guess it depends on the Republican; if they like racist/sexist/classist autocrats, maybe Bloombag will inspire them.

But again, it's not about Bloombag winning - he wouldn't - but about his nomination blowing up the Democrat Party.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Bob Dole is Robin Williams on crack compared to fish-eyed Bloombag.

:yes:
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Bob Dole is a Patriot’s Patriot compared to cadet bone spurs.
 
3leftsdoo said:
I guess it depends on the Republican; if they like racist/sexist autocrats, maybe Bloombag will inspire them.

But again, it's not about Bloombag winning - he wouldn't - but about his nomination blowing up the Democrat Party.
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The DNC is in an interesting position. I'm sure they'd prefer someone like Bloomberg (in regards to financial status, and being a centrist) to some in the field. Honestly, Bloomberg checks a lot of boxes for centrists, and out of all the Democratic Party candidates would spook the stock market less. He can also boast about how much better at business he is than Trump since he has a much larger empire. Republicans could like the racist/sexist side as well since they have no problem with Trump. Bloomberg might just be the right political Frankenstein monster to pull the country back together again.
:)

Bloomberg might be cheeky enough to run an ad:

$62.8B > $3.1B
 
ElChupacabra said:
The DNC is in an interesting position. I'm sure they'd prefer someone like Bloomberg (in regards to financial status, and being a centrist) to some in the field. Honestly, Bloomberg checks a lot of boxes for centrists, and out of all the Democratic Party candidates would spook the stock market less. He can also boast about how much better at business he is than Trump since he has a much larger empire. Republicans could like the racist/sexist side as well since they have no problem with Trump. Bloomberg might just be the right political Frankenstein monster to pull the country back together again.
:)

Bloomberg might be cheeky enough to run an ad:

$62.8B > $3.1B
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Made me LOL. :) :thumbs:

First, the country's divided because Democrats are dividing it. If you don't like the division, stop engaging in it.

And Bloombag, like Bernie, had his chance in 2016.

Bernie went for it & would have won, but was destroyed by the DP Hillbots, so we got Trump.

Bloomie was too cowardly to go for it, and is slithering in now.

I think it would be hilarious to see these ultra-1% dirtbags go after each other, but it will tear the Democrat Party apart.

That & Bloombag being mega-Trump - and Democrats ready to embrace it - is what I'm contemplating here.

Bloombag = Lose/Lose
 
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Emperor Bloombag's pitch to the Democrats:

 
3leftsdoo said:
Made me LOL. :)

But Bloombag, like Bernie, had his chance in 2016.

Bernie went for it & would have won, but was destroyed by the DP Hillbots, so we got Trump.

Bloomie was too cowardly to go for it, and is slithering in now.

I think it would be hilarious to see these ultra-1% dirtbags go after each other, but it will tear the Democrat Party apart.

That & Bloombag being mega-Trump - and Democrats ready to embrace it - is what I'm contemplating here.

Bloombag = Lose/Lose
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It's a real toss up right now, so I'll wait to see how things continue to pan out and in what direction the Bloomberg campaign takes in terms of shaping the message. The difference between Bloomberg and Sanders is the DNC would likely prefer the former to the latter. He's the vanilla ice cream in a shop filled with "Atomic Cherry Alien Butterscotch" flavors. I do think Bloomberg would give Trump a run for his money. We're at a point where we have rich people running the show; where a multi millionaire/billionaire (who knows?) is a champion of the average Joe despite him never having been one. It's not that much of a stretch.

That we're in a potential battle of the rich for the presidency doesn't shock me in a nation which emphasizes materialism and wealth accumulation.
 
ElChupacabra said:
It's a real toss up right now, so I'll wait to see how things continue to pan out and in what direction the Bloomberg campaign takes in terms of shaping the message. The difference between Bloomberg and Sanders is the DNC would likely prefer the former to the latter. He's the vanilla ice cream in a shop filled with "Atomic Cherry Alien Butterscotch" flavors. I do think Bloomberg would give Trump a run for his money. We're at a point where we have rich people running the show; where a multi millionaire/billionaire (who knows?) is a champion of the average Joe despite him never having been one. It's not that much of a stretch.

That we're in a potential battle of the rich for the presidency doesn't shock me in a nation which emphasizes materialism and wealth accumulation.
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You're very reasonable, and it is a criminal clown show to be sure.

But Emperor Bloombag = The End of the Democrat Death Star
 
3leftsdoo said:
Anyone with even the most rudimentary understanding of US politics knows the Democrat can't win.

So it's about making a token pass at cleaning up the 2016 crime scene by nominating Bernie rather than dropping a massive nuke on the party by nominating Bloombag.

Anyone who says "I told you so" if Bernie is nominated & loses is an idiot.

By contrast, MY *I told you so* is not so much about the inevitability of Bloombag losing, but about what he'll do to the party if he's the nominee.

Bernie = Win/Lose

Bloombag = Lose/Lose
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I wouldn't say the Dems can't win. Even leaving aside the poor track record of predictions this far out, the rules have all changed. Trump wasn't supposed to be able to win in 2016. Yet he did. I wouldn't even dare to guess what's going to happen in November.

But the Dem party should still at least try to win. What happened to the notion that the Dems should find the candidate with the best chance of winning? I don't know who that someone is, but it sure as heck ain't Bernie. Maybe Bloomberg could win but he'd move the party in a direction you don't think it should go. So who then? Pete?
 
eman623 said:
I wouldn't say the Dems can't win. Even leaving aside the poor track record of predictions this far out, the rules have all changed. Trump wasn't supposed to be able to win in 2016. Yet he did. I wouldn't even dare to guess what's going to happen in November.

But the Dem party should still at least try to win. What happened to the notion that the Dems should find the candidate with the best chance of winning? I don't know who that someone is, but it sure as heck ain't Bernie. Maybe Bloomberg could win but he'd move the party in a direction you don't think it should go. So who then? Pete?
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What can I say?

NO Democrat can win, period.

Given this reality, do what will best heal the party.

That's back Bernie.
 
3leftsdoo said:
What can I say?

NO Democrat can win, period.

Given this reality, do what will best heal the party.

That's back Bernie.
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If you say so. Seems more like a self-fulfilling prophesy. I don't think I can win, so I take my ball and go home. And sure enough, I didn't win!
 
eman623 said:
If you say so. Seems more like a self-fulfilling prophesy. I don't think I can win, so I take my ball and go home. And sure enough, I didn't win!
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When winning isn't an option, losing gracefully IS a kind of winning, especially if it can heal the party a bit.

The only question is whether the Democrats are smart enough to grasp this.

History says no, but who can say?
 
3leftsdoo said:
When winning isn't an option, losing gracefully IS a kind of winning, especially if it can heal the party a bit.

The only question is whether the Democrats are smart enough to grasp this.

History says no, but who can say?
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Who can say winning isn't an option? You don't know the future.

But if you're determined to lose on your own terms. I'm sure Trump will be pleased with the easy win.
 
eman623 said:
Who can say winning isn't an option? You don't know the future.

But if you're determined to lose on your own terms. I'm sure Trump will be pleased with the easy win.
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Zombie JFK might beat Trump I suppose...
 
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