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"In 26 Years, I've Never Seen Anything Like This" White House Leaks Reportedly Reveal

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Regardless of the article, it just seems to be getting worse and worse with Trump, never letting up. His Ivanka Tweet in his official capacity today, was beyond the pale!

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Liberals are nasty creatures

Attacking president trump through his daughter is beyond the pale
 
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'Trump’s volatile behavior has created an environment ripe for leaks from his executive agencies and even within his White House, according to The Huffington Post. And while leaks typically involve staffers sabotaging each other to improve their own standing or trying to scuttle policy ideas they find genuinely problematic, Trump’s 2-week-old administration has a third category: leaks from White House and agency officials alarmed by the president’s conduct.

For Americans who based their impression of Trump on the competent and decisive tycoon he portrayed on his “Apprentice” TV reality shows, the portrait from these and many other tidbits emerging from his administration may seem a shock: an impulsive, sometimes petty chief executive more concerned with the adulation of the nation than the details of his own policies ? and quick to assign blame when things do not go his way.

“I’ve been in this town for 26 years. I have never seen anything like this,” said Eliot Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush and a member of his National Security Council. “I genuinely do not think this is a mentally healthy president.”'


"In 26 Years, I've Never Seen Anything Like This" White House Leaks Reportedly Reveal Trump Team Turmoil | Zero Hedge


Thoughts?

The leaks have nothing to do with Trumps mental stability, and everything to do with the elite trying to put down a rebellion.
 
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The leaks have nothing to do with Trumps mental stability,

and everything to do with the elite trying to put down a rebellion.

And telling lies to do it
 
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And telling lies to do it

Sure, and doesn't Trump look like a genius for deciding early that the "journalists" are never going to choose journalism over their allegiance to their class...
 
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I understand your sentiments here, but you're overlooking the damage he does with his words, threats, and actions in the meanwhile. We can already see the results: A nervous and fearful country and world, rebelling against him.

Now some may claim that's the price to pay for 'change'. I don't necessarily believe that. We've had Presidents lead in much more dangerous and troubling times than these, and they did their best to calm and lead. Not Trump, though. He's an erratic, petulant, narcissistic man-child, out for himself and defense of his ego. His Ivanka Tweet today using the official White House account shows this glaringly.

I tried to approach him in the manner of realizing those that lead revolts often have personal flaws. But that's far too kind for Trump, IMO. And he's no leader. Greatly flawed, but not enough leadership to make paying the price for the flaws worthwhile.


Can't argue with much you say there. But however we got here, here we are. Think the "nervous and fearful world" can be chalked up to some degree to simple shock and anxiety over the unknown.

Kinda like the first time we all dropped acid in college. Little scary at first, but then hopefully we adjust to the weird colors and distorted sounds.


<smile>
 
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Another bush family loyalist sore loser


I didn't know that Trump won the election over a Bush
 
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Cohen is not a psychiatrist. Here is what psychiatrists are saying:

"In the several days since psychologist John Gartner posted a petition on Facebook declaring that Donald Trump must be removed from office because he has “a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States,” more than 18,000 psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals have signed their agreement.

Although the petition has no legal power and it may be the beneficiary of timing more than tactics—it was posted mere hours before Trump issued a highly contentious executive order banning immigrants from some Muslim countries—it has made public what many have been saying privately for some time

Gartner, a psychologist in private practice in Baltimore and New York, author of a psychobiography of Bill Clinton, and a former instructor in psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, contends that Trump “manifestly” meets the DSM-published criteria for at least three personality disorders: narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), antisocial personality disorder, and paranoid personality disorder. They are a “toxic brew” that in his view not only make Trump “dangerous” but add up to “malignant narcissism,” not a diagnosis formalized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual but a label coined by the German-born psychologist and psychoanalyst Erich Fromm.

What makes it possible to diagnose Trump, says Gartner, is that the DSM, version 5 of which is in current use, puts pathology in the realm of the observable. It describes problematic behaviors, not possible motivations. For example, “when Trump declares that he knows more about ISIS than the generals, he is displaying grandiosity,” one of the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. Or when he instructs the National Parks Service not to display photographs showing empty bleachers during the inaugural parade, he is making obvious his need for admiration.

Bad as NPD is, what makes Trump especially dangerous, Gartner contends, is his antisocial nature, manifest, he alleges, in such DSM-5 criteria as impulsiveness, deceitfulness (his use of aliases such as John Barron on recordings voicing support for his activities), and failing to obey laws and norms (refusal to show tax returns). “We’ve never had an antisocial president,” says Gartner. “What it means is that there are now no guardrails for us.”"

"https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/brainstorm/201701/shrinks-battle-over-diagnosing-donald-trump



it is TOO late; Trump already holds the office of POTUS

Trump will have US in multiple wars B4 he is ever removed from office; he will have a legacy of destruction, nothing else .......
 
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'Trump’s volatile behavior has created an environment ripe for leaks from his executive agencies and even within his White House, according to The Huffington Post. And while leaks typically involve staffers sabotaging each other to improve their own standing or trying to scuttle policy ideas they find genuinely problematic, Trump’s 2-week-old administration has a third category: leaks from White House and agency officials alarmed by the president’s conduct.

For Americans who based their impression of Trump on the competent and decisive tycoon he portrayed on his “Apprentice” TV reality shows, the portrait from these and many other tidbits emerging from his administration may seem a shock: an impulsive, sometimes petty chief executive more concerned with the adulation of the nation than the details of his own policies ? and quick to assign blame when things do not go his way.

“I’ve been in this town for 26 years. I have never seen anything like this,” said Eliot Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush and a member of his National Security Council. “I genuinely do not think this is a mentally healthy president.”'


"In 26 Years, I've Never Seen Anything Like This" White House Leaks Reportedly Reveal Trump Team Turmoil | Zero Hedge


Thoughts?

I don't understand how Trump's obsessed with everyone's adulation if he's constantly making crass remarks to suggest otherwise. It's like Howard Stern's opinion that Hollywood's hatred of Trump is not mentally healthy for him because he so wants to be liked by Hollywood, which doesn't make sense because Trump is constantly doing things that Hollywood hates.
 
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'Trump’s volatile behavior has created an environment ripe for leaks from his executive agencies and even within his White House, according to The Huffington Post. And while leaks typically involve staffers sabotaging each other to improve their own standing or trying to scuttle policy ideas they find genuinely problematic, Trump’s 2-week-old administration has a third category: leaks from White House and agency officials alarmed by the president’s conduct.

For Americans who based their impression of Trump on the competent and decisive tycoon he portrayed on his “Apprentice” TV reality shows, the portrait from these and many other tidbits emerging from his administration may seem a shock: an impulsive, sometimes petty chief executive more concerned with the adulation of the nation than the details of his own policies ? and quick to assign blame when things do not go his way.

“I’ve been in this town for 26 years. I have never seen anything like this,” said Eliot Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush and a member of his National Security Council. “I genuinely do not think this is a mentally healthy president.”'


"In 26 Years, I've Never Seen Anything Like This" White House Leaks Reportedly Reveal Trump Team Turmoil | Zero Hedge


Thoughts?

We have who we have because of the choices offered by the two major parties. Is Trump mentally unstable, I don't know. But it will take a lot more than partisan Democrats stating that he is for me to believe it. So far into Trump's presidency, I have agreed with him sometimes and sometimes I have not. That is the same for me during the Obama administration, the Bush II administration, the Bill Clinton Administration and on back to Eisenhower.

I will say that Trump certainly doesn't act presidential. At least in the normal sense. But that may be because he was a businessman with no political experience, he hasn't learned how to act like a politician. In someways that is refreshing, in other it has been disgusting. So far as I see it, Trump is still acting like that 5th grade schoolyard bully that he acted like during the primaries and the general election. I don't like seeing that, I wish someone would take his twitter and trash it. But we have whom we have. He won, now I will wait and see, give him time, see if he becomes a good president or a bad one. I will decide that on my own. I will not let either major political party decide that for me, not a Trump supporter or a Clinton supporter.

All I have to say is that if the Democrats had offered a decent candidate, Trump wouldn't be president today.
 
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Trump is an enigma.

America rolled the dice giving him this job, and time will tell if the risk was worth it.

I was sympathetic to the idea of the establishment being shaken up and corruption being rooted out, but I've been unable to wrap my head around Trump's way of going about that, and am increasingly doubting both his motives and his temperament.

If it turns out that he's largely a skilled and habitual con man, I expect that will become known, since I doubt that anyone can fake their way through a presidency, especially if they're trying to swing for the fences, as Trump is.

If I was religious (I'm not), I'd be praying right now ...
 
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We have who we have because of the choices offered by the two major parties. Is Trump mentally unstable, I don't know. But it will take a lot more than partisan Democrats stating that he is for me to believe it. So far into Trump's presidency, I have agreed with him sometimes and sometimes I have not. That is the same for me during the Obama administration, the Bush II administration, the Bill Clinton Administration and on back to Eisenhower.

I will say that Trump certainly doesn't act presidential. At least in the normal sense. But that may be because he was a businessman with no political experience, he hasn't learned how to act like a politician. In someways that is refreshing, in other it has been disgusting. So far as I see it, Trump is still acting like that 5th grade schoolyard bully that he acted like during the primaries and the general election. I don't like seeing that, I wish someone would take his twitter and trash it. But we have whom we have. He won, now I will wait and see, give him time, see if he becomes a good president or a bad one. I will decide that on my own. I will not let either major political party decide that for me, not a Trump supporter or a Clinton supporter.

All I have to say is that if the Democrats had offered a decent candidate, Trump wouldn't be president today.


Americans need to realize that the two party system in America is old, out dated, and is nothing more than a ruse perpetuated by the electorate's own inabilities to get past the idea that all we have to offer to ourselves and to our posterity is a two party system that hasn't worked for the better good of the nation in the past 100 years.

Who's fault is that? The electorate .............
 
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I didn't know that Trump won the election over a Bush

Trump defeated the entire bush family and friends in the primary and the neneral election
 
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I know, right. Experience is so overrated. I fire any doctor that has been in practice more than 10 years. Any general who has been in the army over 15 years is too out of touch to be effective. You are so right...

In management, you tend to want to shake things up at least every 8 years or so. Mission creep, complacency, etc. Peple become blind to issues they see on a daily basis. That why they rotate police officers out of specific areas and times, too.
 
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Americans need to realize that the two party system in America is old, out dated, and is nothing more than a ruse perpetuated by the electorate's own inabilities to get past the idea that all we have to offer to ourselves and to our posterity is a two party system that hasn't worked for the better good of the nation in the past 100 years.

Who's fault is that? The electorate .............

Perhaps. But it is much more complected. Yes, the electorate is set in its ways, most don't even know third parties exists. When each of our two major parties have more than a billion dollars each to spend on a presidential election vs. maybe a million or two for Johnson, Libertarian and much less for others. There isn't any way for third parties candidates to become nationally known. 99% of all media coverage is of the Republican and Democratic candidates. Probably more than that.

C-Span will carry a third party candidate debate, but again, who watches C-Span or how many have even heard of C-Span? Every once in a long while you may get a third party candidate such as Ross Perot who is willing to spend 100 million of his own money and get well known. But even there it didn't do him any good, he didn't win a single state or electoral vote although his 19% of the total electorate vote back in 1992 is the highest on record since we did go to two parties prior to the civil war. George Wallace garnered 18% back in 1968, but he was basically a regional candidate and carried five states if I remember right. But outside of the south, he was basically a non-entity.

Another problem is both major parties are shrinking. Only the most avid partisan, the most active politically bother to vote in the primaries. Trump won the Republican nomination with 40% of the GOP vote. More Republicans voted against him or for someone else depending on how one looks at it.

I totally agree, the 40% plus of all Americans who are now independents aren't served well by the two party system. They are somewhere in the middle between the rightest Republican Party and the Leftest Democratic Party. Neither party espouses their views. So how does one come up with a viable third party? Pretty darn hard since the Republicans and Democrats write our election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. But in the end, I suppose we end up with whom we deserve and the government we deserve.

We, the electorate let the ever shrinking major political parties dictate whom we will choose from. We buy into their propaganda that any vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote because that candidate can't win. As long as we, the electorate as a whole are willing to accept candidates such as Trump and Clinton, we deserve whomever wins between them.

I suppose this means America deserves Trump. Whether or not that is true, we got him.
 
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Perhaps. But it is much more complected. Yes, the electorate is set in its ways, most don't even know third parties exists. When each of our two major parties have more than a billion dollars each to spend on a presidential election vs. maybe a million or two for Johnson, Libertarian and much less for others. There isn't any way for third parties candidates to become nationally known. 99% of all media coverage is of the Republican and Democratic candidates. Probably more than that.

C-Span will carry a third party candidate debate, but again, who watches C-Span or how many have even heard of C-Span? Every once in a long while you may get a third party candidate such as Ross Perot who is willing to spend 100 million of his own money and get well known. But even there it didn't do him any good, he didn't win a single state or electoral vote although his 19% of the total electorate vote back in 1992 is the highest on record since we did go to two parties prior to the civil war. George Wallace garnered 18% back in 1968, but he was basically a regional candidate and carried five states if I remember right. But outside of the south, he was basically a non-entity.

Another problem is both major parties are shrinking. Only the most avid partisan, the most active politically bother to vote in the primaries. Trump won the Republican nomination with 40% of the GOP vote. More Republicans voted against him or for someone else depending on how one looks at it.

I totally agree, the 40% plus of all Americans who are now independents aren't served well by the two party system. They are somewhere in the middle between the rightest Republican Party and the Leftest Democratic Party. Neither party espouses their views. So how does one come up with a viable third party? Pretty darn hard since the Republicans and Democrats write our election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. But in the end, I suppose we end up with whom we deserve and the government we deserve.

We, the electorate let the ever shrinking major political parties dictate whom we will choose from. We buy into their propaganda that any vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote because that candidate can't win. As long as we, the electorate as a whole are willing to accept candidates such as Trump and Clinton, we deserve whomever wins between them.

I suppose this means America deserves Trump. Whether or not that is true, we got him.

Trump is a third party candidate who was smart enough to succeed where all the others failed
 
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Cohen is correct about the presidents mental state. Trump is a extreme narcissist who lacks empathy for others and will use anything to advance himself no matter who or what gets in his path. He is mentally ill and is the greatest threat to this nation in at least five decades.

And what will the Congress do about this? Nothing until it does serious damage.

I absolutely agree. Until Trump veto's their give-aways to their contributors, or their pork spending, congress will tolerate Trump.
 
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Is Cohen a psychiatrist or something?

There can be no doubt that Trump is running a weird honeymoon, but I doubt that that is enough to justify the diagnosis of insanity at this point. It is even possible that he is working a fully rational if quite demanding and risky strategy.

You've got to admit that tweeting vile things at anyone who criticizes him is not very presidential. Calling the judge who disagreed with him a "so called judge" was kind of alarming. The judiciary is supposed to be a co-equal branch of government.
 
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Perhaps. But it is much more complected. Yes, the electorate is set in its ways, most don't even know third parties exists. When each of our two major parties have more than a billion dollars each to spend on a presidential election vs. maybe a million or two for Johnson, Libertarian and much less for others. There isn't any way for third parties candidates to become nationally known. 99% of all media coverage is of the Republican and Democratic candidates. Probably more than that.

C-Span will carry a third party candidate debate, but again, who watches C-Span or how many have even heard of C-Span? Every once in a long while you may get a third party candidate such as Ross Perot who is willing to spend 100 million of his own money and get well known. But even there it didn't do him any good, he didn't win a single state or electoral vote although his 19% of the total electorate vote back in 1992 is the highest on record since we did go to two parties prior to the civil war. George Wallace garnered 18% back in 1968, but he was basically a regional candidate and carried five states if I remember right. But outside of the south, he was basically a non-entity.

Another problem is both major parties are shrinking. Only the most avid partisan, the most active politically bother to vote in the primaries. Trump won the Republican nomination with 40% of the GOP vote. More Republicans voted against him or for someone else depending on how one looks at it.

I totally agree, the 40% plus of all Americans who are now independents aren't served well by the two party system. They are somewhere in the middle between the rightest Republican Party and the Leftest Democratic Party. Neither party espouses their views. So how does one come up with a viable third party? Pretty darn hard since the Republicans and Democrats write our election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. But in the end, I suppose we end up with whom we deserve and the government we deserve.

We, the electorate let the ever shrinking major political parties dictate whom we will choose from. We buy into their propaganda that any vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote because that candidate can't win. As long as we, the electorate as a whole are willing to accept candidates such as Trump and Clinton, we deserve whomever wins between them.

I suppose this means America deserves Trump. Whether or not that is true, we got him.

As someone who has been for impossible candidates in the past. (Nader, Kucinich) I understand completely the "throw away" argument. But, I would rather vote for something I believe in and lose than vote for something I don't believe in and win. I voted Stein last election not because I loved Stein. I just really hated Clinton and Trump. Like, I'm no republican. Always been a lefty. But, if Kasich or Cruz were the nominees even I woulda came out to stop Clinton.

Sorry for the rant. My 2 cents is we need nominees who aren't some hyper exaggerated warped avatars of the party's worst tendencies in 2020.


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As someone who has been for impossible candidates in the past. (Nader, Kucinich) I understand completely the "throw away" argument. But, I would rather vote for something I believe in and lose than vote for something I don't believe in and win. I voted Stein last election not because I loved Stein. I just really hated Clinton and Trump. Like, I'm no republican. Always been a lefty. But, if Kasich or Cruz were the nominees even I woulda came out to stop Clinton.

Sorry for the rant. My 2 cents is we need nominees who aren't some hyper exaggerated warped avatars of the party's worst tendencies in 2020.


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Hmm. Something in common. Never called or considered myself pro-Trump, just very anti-Hillary.
 
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"In 26 Years, I've Never Seen Anything Like This"

You need to get out more. Out from the government and DC. Outside of the reality distortion field that is DC that you've been living in for those 26 years.

Very often, more often than not I'd say, people successful in business are very driven personalities, workaholics, just can't put it down, just can't relax and unwind type of people.

It's not even just the large businesses, it's also the small businesses. I personally know a successful small businessman who employs about 20 people, about 5 are part time, and he's first at the shop, and the last to leave, at least 6, if not 7 days a week. I figure around 65 - 70 hours a week he does, and he's 66 and not slowing down.

Yeah. It really is tough out there. Out there in reality land. Time to resign after 26 years, and come experience some of it.
 
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Trump could point blank shoot someone and folks like yourself would excuse it by saying the other guy got in the way of the bullet. Trump sycophants are an interesting bunch.
You have a lot of absurd beliefs.
 
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Perhaps. But it is much more complected. Yes, the electorate is set in its ways, most don't even know third parties exists. When each of our two major parties have more than a billion dollars each to spend on a presidential election vs. maybe a million or two for Johnson, Libertarian and much less for others. There isn't any way for third parties candidates to become nationally known. 99% of all media coverage is of the Republican and Democratic candidates. Probably more than that.

C-Span will carry a third party candidate debate, but again, who watches C-Span or how many have even heard of C-Span? Every once in a long while you may get a third party candidate such as Ross Perot who is willing to spend 100 million of his own money and get well known. But even there it didn't do him any good, he didn't win a single state or electoral vote although his 19% of the total electorate vote back in 1992 is the highest on record since we did go to two parties prior to the civil war. George Wallace garnered 18% back in 1968, but he was basically a regional candidate and carried five states if I remember right. But outside of the south, he was basically a non-entity.

Another problem is both major parties are shrinking. Only the most avid partisan, the most active politically bother to vote in the primaries. Trump won the Republican nomination with 40% of the GOP vote. More Republicans voted against him or for someone else depending on how one looks at it.

I totally agree, the 40% plus of all Americans who are now independents aren't served well by the two party system. They are somewhere in the middle between the rightest Republican Party and the Leftest Democratic Party. Neither party espouses their views. So how does one come up with a viable third party? Pretty darn hard since the Republicans and Democrats write our election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. But in the end, I suppose we end up with whom we deserve and the government we deserve.

We, the electorate let the ever shrinking major political parties dictate whom we will choose from. We buy into their propaganda that any vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote because that candidate can't win. As long as we, the electorate as a whole are willing to accept candidates such as Trump and Clinton, we deserve whomever wins between them.

I suppose this means America deserves Trump. Whether or not that is true, we got him.


very well stated & I don't disagree with much of anything, if anything you stated.
If the electorate does not want change, and they obviously do not want change, then we will keep getting the same ole same ole.
Everyone is more interested in protecting the status quo, that's for sure.
People tell me I waste my vote when I vote third party.
The Democrats & the Republicans have gotten this nation in this f***** up mess we're in but folks keep voting for them both.
We live in a society that is a majority nuts; no wonder we keep ending up with sociopaths in the White House & big government in general.

I have proposed for decades that for ANY elected office there be a TWO TERM LIMIT, no matter the elected office.
Two terms & you are out, never to return to that office again, ever, period.
NO MORE politics as a career, period.
Once we start taking the career potential out of politics then, and only then will there be any real potential to regain our true governance.
Politicians are public servants.
A career politician is not a public servant; they only serve themselves.
 
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Trump is a third party candidate who was smart enough to succeed where all the others failed

Donald Trump was/is a very successful salesman.
 
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Hmm. Something in common. Never called or considered myself pro-Trump, just very anti-Hillary.


Think there is lots of that....
 
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You've got to admit that tweeting vile things at anyone who criticizes him is not very presidential. Calling the judge who disagreed with him a "so called judge" was kind of alarming. The judiciary is supposed to be a co-equal branch of government.

Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't defend Trump. But I believe it to be counterproductive to level incorrect accusations. That reduces the force of the important arguments and so deflects from the essentials so hidden behind a fog of whipped up pixels.
 
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