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Improvised bomb on the Tube in London...

Speaking of media coverage Swedish TV has not mentioned the London Tube bomb - not one word. Best to ignore it entirely in case - whisper it - it turn out that it was yet another instance of Islamic terrorism. Swedish MSM works on the basis of only telling us dumb Swedes what they think is good for us to know.

They had it, but I think they were relegating it to a smaller time frame due to how much they have been blowing up this whole north korea thing.
 
I have seldom had an issue with the Guardian over international news, they seem to often be in the right place at the right time to keep whoever from lying about it. Their early accuracy rate is amazing.
I do not stand with them on most editorial issues, but then I am not in Britain so my opinion isn't entirely relevant.

As journalist for many years, have had run ins with the British Press; I can honestly there isn't one staffer I would even have a coffee with. Canadian news teams are used to being ignored when the big US networks roll into town, but they're coverage is always so sensationalized we don't care. Besides the essence of what i "Canadian" is to be deliberately underestimated.

The British, however, are Colonial Masters, foul mouthed, often half drunk, sexist to the point of insult and arrogant.

Most people don't know, but when you see a gang of press behind a line of cameras, it got that way by an unstated and unrecognized understanding, very little fighting for position.

Enter the "Royal Couple" to officially officiate some royal officiating so the world will see pictures of Vancouver and the looming Expo 87, where we all made the interesting discovery that Americans are super polite and professional when compared to the British press, who usually stink of beer, have no problem stomping on a colleague foot to get a closer shot.

And that is when our "colonial masters" discovered that Canada ma be meek, tolerant and "nice", but that our national sport is the only professional sport where bare knuckle fighting is allowed....because we want it that way..


Just some insight as to the gathering of news in this world

I'm guessing not in any capacity as a sub-editor. :mrgreen:
 
Do you know why there are very few trash cans in central London? Literally, you can walk for half a mile without finding a trash can, it's annoying as hell.

Well, the reason for that is because the IRA liked to put bombs in them. Ya know, the whitest of white people.

London's history with terrorism comes from all kinds of places. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative about the evil brown people, but that's the reality of the matter.

Today it comes from Muslims, it doesn't matter if they are brown or white Muslims, the problem is that their prophet who they consider to be the perfect example of humanity to be emulated was a genocidal war criminal and child rapist.
 
Today it comes from Muslims, it doesn't matter if they are brown or white Muslims, the problem is that their prophet who they consider to be the perfect example of humanity to be emulated was a genocidal war criminal and child rapist.

Except when it doesn't, which most recently was just a couple months ago.

Terrorism in London is not mono-religious, or mono-ethnic, even in 2017.
 
Fenton and to all:

Not to be snide or disrespectful, but based on my life experience, I equate bombing of civilians with American A-4s, A-7s, F-4s and B-52s over Indochina, American made Israeli A-4 Skyhawks and F-4 Phantoms over Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq, American made or licensed F-16s and F-15s over Gaza, the West Bank, Syria and Lebanon, Soviet SU-23s, SU-25s and SU-27s over Afghanistan and the Caucasus region, American F-16s and F-117s over Serbia and Kosovo, American F-16s, F-18s and B-1s or B-2s over Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again and now Syria. As bad and as wrong as Islamist terrorism is (and it is profoundly evil) it pales in comparison to the state terrorism and civilian deaths associated with the great powers and their regional allies. Your perspective will vary.

Cheers?
Evilroddy.

Civilians are always killed in war the difference is that our side does everything possible to minimize civilian casualties and the Muslim Jihadists do everything to maximize them, and for the record Egypt started both the war in 1956 and 1964 by illegally blockading international waters and arming, training, funding, and sponsoring thousands of Fedayeen terrorists who attacled Israel hundreds of times, furthermore, state terrorism is defined as the unlawful act of violence by a state against its own civilian population, when it is perpetrated against another country that is called a war crime, the west does not engage in war crimes and if our people go rogue and commit them we punish them instead of heralding them as heroic martyrs.
 
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Except when it doesn't, which most recently was just a couple months ago.

Terrorism in London is not mono-religious, or mono-ethnic, even in 2017.

Terrorism resulting in civilian deaths is almost an exclusively Muslim perpetrated phenomenon not only in the UK but in every country on the planet.
 
Terrorism resulting in civilian deaths is almost an exclusively Muslim perpetrated phenomenon not only in the UK but in every country on the planet.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever friggin' heard. Wow.

Welcome to my scroll-by list, Kekestanian.
 
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever friggin' heard. Wow.

Welcome to my scroll-by list, Kekestanian.

So in other words you have no rebuttal for incontrovertible facts. Facts are stubborn things, in the US for example more than 90% of all terrorist related deaths were from Muslim terrorist attacks.
 
So in other words you have no rebuttal for incontrovertible facts. Facts are stubborn things, in the US for example more than 90% of all terrorist related deaths were from Muslim terrorist attacks.

Because the US = the entire planet. *sigh* You guys are so predictable.

How about you go look at the Lord's Resistance or Rohingya and get back to me, eh?
 
Because the US = the entire planet. *sigh* You guys are so predictable.

How about you go look at the Lord's Resistance or Rohingya and get back to me, eh?


lol Rohingya are majority Muslims genius and the LRA is a drop in the bucket compared to Muslim perpetrated terror attacks.
 
lol Rohingya are majority Muslims genius and the LRA is a drop in the bucket compared to Muslim perpetrated terror attacks.

The Rohingya Muslims are famous for being ethnically cleansed by the Buddhist Burmese army.
 
lol Rohingya are majority Muslims genius and the LRA is a drop in the bucket compared to Muslim perpetrated terror attacks.

Aaaand who's the one doing the killing? Hint: it's not Muslims.

Only if you care about nothing but America. But actually, not even then. Their death toll is way higher than Muslims in America.
 

Dude, your own source says the Buddhist minority attacking the Muslims. You should really read your sources before you post them.

That they are a minority is irrelevant. Muslims are a minority in every country in the West, and yet your stance is that they do all the killing (which is wrong, but whatever). Minority or not, the genocide is being committed by Buddhists.
 
I've seen higher. Show a more accurate figure or it stands.

A quick search revealed the following that lists 14 homicides with multiple victims in 2016. The same article noted 4 in 2010, 7 in 2011, 11 in 2012, 6 in 2013, 5 in 2014, and 9 in 2015.

Pages in category "2016 mass shootings in the United States"
The following 14 pages are in this category, out of 14 total. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2016_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States
 
Dude, your own source says the Buddhist minority attacking the Muslims. You should really read your sources before you post them.

No, it doesn't, all of my sources are in regards to the Rohingya Islamist insurgency and terrorism, here's another:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_Solidarity_Organisation



That they are a minority is irrelevant. Muslims are a minority in every country in the West, and yet your stance is that they do all the killing (which is wrong, but whatever). Minority or not, the genocide is being committed by Buddhists.

There is no such thing as a Buddhist Rhohingya.
 
You call them mass shootings. Different name, same ****... terror in the population.

Terrorism is defined as the use of unlawful force against civilian populations and property for political or ideological ends, not every mass murder is an act of terrorism.
 
No, it doesn't, all of my sources are in regards to the Rohingya Islamist insurgency and terrorism, here's another:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_Solidarity_Organisation

There is no such thing as a Buddhist Rhohingya.

No duh. The Rohingya are an ethnic minority, which is the big reason they're being genocided (regardless of belonging to the majority religion).

That link is nothing but a defunct military branch. It has nothing to do with what we're discussing.

Here's from your previous link:

Rohingya people have regularly been made the target of persecution by the government and nationalist Buddhists.
 
Civilians are always killed in war the difference is that our side does everything possible to minimize civilian casualties and the Muslim Jihadists do everything to maximize them, and for the record Egypt started both the war in 1956 and 1964 by illegally blockading international waters and arming, training, funding, and sponsoring thousands of Fedayeen terrorists who attacled Israel hundreds of times, furthermore, state terrorism is defined as the unlawful act of violence by a state against its own civilian population, when it is perpetrated against another country that is called a war crime, the west does not engage in war crimes and if our people go rogue and commit them we punish them instead of heralding them as heroic martyrs.

PraiseKek:

Vietnam War: over 640,000 North Vietnamese civilian deaths from 1960-1975. Operation Rolling Thunder between 52,000 and 182,000 North Vietnamese civilian deaths between 1965 and 1968 inclusive.

Cambodia: 100,000-150,000 Cambodian deaths.

Laos: 20,000 Laotian deaths and 270 million cluster bomb submunitions dropped.

Arab Israeli Wars and Israeli Occupation: no clear data here for civilian deaths.

Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan: 600,000-1.8 million deaths, mostly civilian.

Gulf War 1990-1991: 60,000-170,000 civilian deaths.

Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Syria: see:

http://www.psr.org/assets/pdfs/body-count.pdf

Your definition of state terrorism is wrong. See:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism

Wars start when one nation attacks another. Israeli military forces invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967.

I have have read plenty of books and have witnessed this slaughter either indirectly via media or directly in person.

Welcome to Debate Politics Forum.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
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No duh. The Rohingya are an ethnic minority, which is the big reason they're being genocided (regardless of belonging to the majority religion).

That link is nothing but a defunct military branch. It has nothing to do with what we're discussing.

Here's from your previous link:

Persecution =/= terrorism, the terrorism is being perpetrated by the Muslim insurgents:

The Rohingya insurgency in Western Myanmar is an ongoing insurgency in northern Rakhine State, Myanmar (formerly known as Arakan, Burma), waged by insurgents belonging to the Rohingya ethnic minority. Most clashes have occurred in the Maungdaw District, which borders Bangladesh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar
 
Persecution =/= terrorism, the terrorism is being perpetrated by the Muslim insurgents:

The Rohingya insurgency in Western Myanmar is an ongoing insurgency in northern Rakhine State, Myanmar (formerly known as Arakan, Burma), waged by insurgents belonging to the Rohingya ethnic minority. Most clashes have occurred in the Maungdaw District, which borders Bangladesh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar

If ever there was a country not named North Korea that needs an insurgency, it's Myanmar. We should help them succeed.
 
Persecution =/= terrorism, the terrorism is being perpetrated by the Muslim insurgents:

The Rohingya insurgency in Western Myanmar is an ongoing insurgency in northern Rakhine State, Myanmar (formerly known as Arakan, Burma), waged by insurgents belonging to the Rohingya ethnic minority. Most clashes have occurred in the Maungdaw District, which borders Bangladesh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_insurgency_in_Western_Myanmar

Uh, yeah, because they're living under a sort of apartheid and experiencing genocide.
 
PraiseKek:

Vietnam War: over 640,000 North Vietnamese civilian deaths from 1960-1975. Operation Rolling Thunder between 52,000 and 182,000 North Vietnamese civilian deaths between 1965 and 1968 inclusive.

Cambodia: 100,000-150,000 Cambodian deaths.

Laos: 20,000 Laotian deaths and 270 million cluster bomb submunitions dropped.

Arab Israeli Wars and Israeli Occupation: no clear data here for civilian deaths.

Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan: 600,000-1.8 million deaths, mostly civilian.

Gulf War 1990-1991: 60,000-170,000 civilian deaths.

Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Syria: see:

http://www.psr.org/assets/pdfs/body-count.pdf

As I said civilian deaths occur in war the difference is we do not target civilians and the majority of civilian casualties in Iraq were committed by the insurgency not the Coalition forces.

Your definition of state terrorism is wrong. See:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism

Your source conflates state terror with state sponsorship of terrorist groups.

Wars start when one nation attacks another. Israeli military forces invaded Egypt in 1956 and 1967.

After hundreds of Egyptian directed Fedayeen attacks against Israel, furthermore, blockades are an act of war.
 
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