If you could change Mt. Rushmore, would you? How?

[Josie]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

 

[Dayton3]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

I'd get rid of Jefferson (vastly overrated as president) and replace him with Reagan (vastly underrated as president).

 

[JMR]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

Perhaps a statement to the Native Americans expressing regret for building on their sacred land. At this point there is not much else to say about it.

 

[Dayton3]

Perhaps a statement to the Native Americans expressing regret for building on their sacred land

If it was so sacred to them then they should've won the wars with the white men.

Critics of the Confederate statues have been saying "we shouldn't honor losers". Why honor losers among the native Americans?

 

[calamity]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

Put it anywhere other than on the land stolen after the US broke another treaty with Native Americans. I would literally de-face it (as in de-ice not deface) and give the damned mountain back to the people who rightfully own it.

 

[Rexedgar]

The fireworks scheduled for this evening is really about blowing up the monument........./s

 

[mrjurrs]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

I'd give it back to the people that the land belongs to.

See U.S. v. Sioux Nation of Indians 1980

 

[OlNate]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

I'd turn it back into a mountain. Nature is more admirable than politics.

 

[JMR]

If it was so sacred to them then they should've won the wars with the white men.

Critics of the Confederate statues have been saying "we shouldn't honor losers". Why honor losers among the native Americans?

Google is your friend.

Native Americans have a long history in the Black Hills. After conquering the Cheyenne in 1776, the Lakota took the territory of the Black Hills, which became central to their culture. In 1868, the U.S. government signed the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868, establishing the Great Sioux Reservation west of the Missouri River, and exempting the Black Hills from all white settlement forever. However, when settlers discovered gold there in 1874, as a result of George Armstrong Custer's Black Hills Expedition, miners swept into the area in a gold rush. The US government took the Black Hills and in 1889 reassigned the Lakota, against their wishes, to five smaller reservations in western South Dakota, selling off 9 million acres of their former land. Unlike most of South Dakota, the Black Hills were settled by European Americans primarily from population centers to the west and south of the region, as miners flocked there from earlier gold boom locations in Colorado and Montana.[5]

So which war are you referring to? Why not honor those who have been violated with a simple acknowledgment.

Comparing the Lakota tribe with confederate traitors is ridiculous.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Perhaps a statement to the Native Americans expressing regret for building on their sacred land. At this point there is not much else to say about it.

Or a statement covering how many times the various tribes stole the same property from each other while still living in the flint age.

Stagnate or progress.

 

[iguanaman]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

I'd turn it back to its rightful owners, Native Americans. Let them profit from it. It's the least we can do.

What the American Indians know, particularly those from the great Sioux nations, is that the tribes were originally given the Black Hills, which Mount Rushmore is a part of, in perpetuity in the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868. Soon thereafter, gold was discovered in the Black Hills and greed set in. The U.S. Calvary moved in by the mid-1870s to protect white miners. The U.S. government took the stance that American Indians had the choice to “sell or starve.” By 1877, the Sioux nations’ land was confiscated by the federal government and the Sioux were forced onto reservations.

The Other Side of the Mountain Story: A Native Perspective on Mt. Rushmore — Native News Online

 

[hado117]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

just completely destroy it. put nothing back .. we are going to end this ****ing country

 

[JMR]

Or a statement covering how many times the various tribes stole the same property from each other while still living in the flint age.

Stagnate or progress.

Surprised to see how little concern you have over our government breaking treaties. If the word of our government is not to be trusted, what is?

 

[Dayton3]

to me any discussion about American Indians and their land can be explained by this scene from the western "High Chaparral".

A visiting U.S. Army officer refers to the Cannon family (owners of the High Chaparral ranch" as "thieves".

An offended Buck Cannon replies

"My brother bought this ranch!"

The officer says

"Who did he buy it from?"

Buck Cannon "The Spanish".

Army Officer "Did the Spanish buy it from the Apache?"

When Buck cannot respond, the officer directs the same question to Wind, the Indian ranch hand.

Wind responds:

"I never saw a bill of sale, but then again the Apache didn't buy it from the Navaho either."

 

[Rexedgar]

Or a statement covering how many times the various tribes stole the same property from each other while still living in the flint age.

Stagnate or progress.

That makes things all better; two wrongs and all.........”as long as the water flows and the grass grows...........”unless we find something valuable on the land we let you have.......

 

[Rexedgar]

to me any discussion about American Indians and their land can be explained by this scene from the western "High Chaparral".

A visiting U.S. Army officer refers to the Cannon family (owners of the High Chaparral ranch" as "thieves".

An offended Buck Cannon replies

"My brother bought this ranch!"

The officer says

"Who did he buy it from?"

Buck Cannon "The Spanish".

Army Officer "Did the Spanish buy it from the Apache?"

When Buck cannot respond, the officer directs the same question to Wind, the Indian ranch hand.

Wind responds:

"I never saw a bill of sale, but then again the Apache didn't buy it from the Navaho either."

Using a television fictional series to bolster your position......:thumbs:





Nah....

 

[Dayton3]

Using a television fictional series to bolster your position......:thumbs:

truth can show up anywhere.

 

[JMR]

to me any discussion about American Indians and their land can be explained by this scene from the western "High Chaparral".

A visiting U.S. Army officer refers to the Cannon family (owners of the High Chaparral ranch" as "thieves".

An offended Buck Cannon replies

"My brother bought this ranch!"

The officer says

"Who did he buy it from?"

Buck Cannon "The Spanish".

Army Officer "Did the Spanish buy it from the Apache?"

When Buck cannot respond, the officer directs the same question to Wind, the Indian ranch hand.

Wind responds:

"I never saw a bill of sale, but then again the Apache didn't buy it from the Navaho either."

How do you explain treaties?

 

[Dayton3]

How do you explain treaties?

They are binding until one side says they're not.

 

[Rexedgar]

truth can show up anywhere.

So can dumbassery............

 

[Port & Starboard]

Surprised to see how little concern you have over our government breaking treaties. If the word of our government is not to be trusted, what is?

Yeah....

Get back to me when the world gives a **** about the indigenous people of Canada, Australia and New Zealand while your at it.

Get back to me as to why our Native American citizens decided to build casinos instead of colleges....................................... and how they still in poverty?

 

[Helix]

i would put Obama on it. not necessarily because of his presidency, but just to piss off Trump fans.

 

[Carleen]

If you could, would you change anything about Mt. Rushmore? If so, how would you change it?

I am not a fan of monuments of anyone. I have always thought they are an unnecessary tribute.

 

[Bodi]

If it was so sacred to them then they should've won the wars with the white men.

Critics of the Confederate statues have been saying "we shouldn't honor losers". Why honor losers among the native Americans?

They say do not honor traitors and racists... not merely "losers".

 

[calamity]

Or a statement covering how many times the various tribes stole the same property from each other while still living in the flint age.

Stagnate or progress.

Ah yes, the old "hey other people steal so why can't we?" defense. Bravo.