If Moore wins in Alabama does that mean that the women lied?

[Perotista]

I have heard Huckabee say in other words that Trump won last November which means that the public decided on who was telling the truth. So does that mean that if Moore wins the public decided that the women who have come out are lying, or that Republicans in Alabama will vote for a GOP candidate no matter what he has done?

I'm not sure what it means, especially in politics. I'm sure those who support Moore think it is a hit job. A political ploy to defeat him, nothing more and nothing less. Those who support Jones, think it is all true and wonder how in the world can anyone support Moore. But this is basically a classic he said, she said situation. In those cases, political ideology usually wins out. It not what one would call black and white. There is no blue dress.

There has been numerous threads on this. It seems to me it is purely political. Pro-Trump vs. Anti-Trump, rabid Republicans vs. rabid Democrat. Democrats defended and protected Bill Clinton. A lot of them tried to destroy the women who accused him. Now are we seeing the holier than thou going after Moore? Of course those who defend more these days were after Bill Clinton's scalp.

Are we, the very political type more interested in justice or just a chance to pick up a senate seat? Were those who went after Bill Clinton more interest in justice or just wanted to drive him from office. Or as with Flowers, get Bush elected to a second term?

I don't know, but I do know what it looks like. I also know if the Republicans didn't nominate these crazies, Moore, Aiken, Mourdock etc. Perhaps we could have an election based on substance. If Jones wins, I think the Alabama Republicans who nominated Moore have only themselves to blame. The same with Aiken in Missouri, Missouri that year was a sure senate pickup until Missouri Republicans nominated Aiken and Luger in Indiana was another sure winner until the Indiana Republicans primaried him out and went with Mourdock. Those republicans have only themselves to blame for the losses.

The republicans aren't immune to nominating folks most people don't want. The Democrats got a taste of that last year. A decent candidate willing to work and campaign, without so much baggage and perhaps trusted a bit more we would have a Democrat sitting in the Oval Office today instead of whom we have. Perhaps the Democrats have taken a lesson or two from the republicans.

 

[DiAnna]

I have heard Huckabee say in other words that Trump won last November which means that the public decided on who was telling the truth. So does that mean that if Moore wins the public decided that the women who have come out are lying, or that Republicans in Alabama will vote for a GOP candidate no matter what he has done?

No, it just means they voted for a man who has a corroborated history of inappropriate behavior with teenaged girls because they refuse to vote for a democrat.

 

[haymarket]

Let me know when one of my betters comes along. You do not qualify.:lamo

You just proved I was one of them when you attempted to do a poor imitation of what I said because you have nothing else to say. You dug your own deep pit and jumped into it and now you want to climb out forgetting to throw in the ladder first. It would be funny if not so obviously sad and pathetic.

 

[HowardBThiname]

First, Moore isn’t going to win. Finally, if by some fluke he does? I think tens of millions will be very disappointed because it will mean we truly do have a bunch of partisan idiots going to the polls.

Not necessarily. There are deep issues in this campaign that will very likely keep Moore supporters from switching to Jones, not the least of which is the fact that Jones is extremely pro-choice, and the majority of voters in the state are pro-life, at least to some extent.

I think voters may give Moore the benefit of the doubt, since he has denied all the charges. With the political scene as vicious as it is right now, it won't be hard to convince his supporters that the accusations are a big democratic ploy.

It's going to be interesting to watch, that's for sure.

 

[MaggieD]

Not necessarily. There are deep issues in this campaign that will very likely keep Moore supporters from switching to Jones, not the least of which is the fact that Jones is extremely pro-choice, and the majority of voters in the state are pro-life, at least to some extent.

I think voters may give Moore the benefit of the doubt, since he has denied all the charges. With the political scene as vicious as it is right now, it won't be hard to convince his supporters that the accusations are a big democratic ploy.

It's going to be interesting to watch, that's for sure.

I agree with you. Very interesting.

What I fail to understand is why where a candidate stands on abortion makes any difference at all. It’s the law of the land. I’m trying to think of anything else similar. I can’t.

 

[HowardBThiname]

I agree with you. Very interesting.

What I fail to understand is why where a candidate stands on abortion makes any difference at all. It’s the law of the land. I’m trying to think of anything else similar. I can’t.

States have been enacting certain restrictions, such as no abortions after 20 weeks unless health of mother is in danger. Things like that.

Jones has stated that he is pro-life only after a baby is born, which has caused his detractors to claim he supports "full-term abortion."

I think it would be very difficult to get the evangelical Moore supporters to ever vote for Jones as they would see their vote as being cast for a proponent of "full-term abortion."

In a lot of evangelical circles, they look at being pro-life as the singular most important defining factor of a candidate.

Those who might believe Moore's accusers will likely stay home and not vote at all, but I think we may see quite a few who think Moore is being unfairly railroaded.

 

[MaggieD]

States have been enacting certain restrictions, such as no abortions after 20 weeks unless health of mother is in danger. Things like that.

Jones has stated that he is pro-life only after a baby is born, which has caused his detractors to claim he supports "full-term abortion."

I think it would be very difficult to get the evangelical Moore supporters to ever vote for Jones as they would see their vote as being cast for a proponent of "full-term abortion."

In a lot of evangelical circles, they look at being pro-life as the singular most important defining factor of a candidate.

Those who might believe Moore's accusers will likely stay home and not vote at all, but I think we may see quite a few who think Moore is being unfairly railroaded.

Very logical.

 

[Fraggle Rock]

No it means that people that hail from the backwoods of ALABama are Moore-ONS