"I Wish He Was (expletive) Dead!"

[Fenton Lum]

The left has done a wonderful job defining themselves.

America has no left anymore, merely bickering factions of a ruling aristocracy clawing each other to serve the donor class.

 

[eohrnberger]

Trump is a tool for the Republican establishment. To prove that, all one needs to do is point out Trumps Conservative agenda, his picks for Supreme Court judges and his cabinet.

If you look at those things, I think you'll find that he's not really Republican nor Democrat, but either something in the middle or something completely different.

Not too mention Trump's obsession with attacking Liberals 24/7.

Forgotten all the attacks by the liberal media already? I'd say that he's dishing out about as much as he's being dished at, and frankly, it's high time that the liberal 'news' (propaganda) media be taken down a few notches.

Trump was spouting crap with his anti-establishment campaign, and never intended to be anti-establishment, just use it as a talking point to get elected by the idiots that believe the crap that a politician says to get elected.

Meh. Given the tone of your post, I'm not sure that you can see things clearly. Seems pretty clear that you are awfully pissed off that Trump got elected. Or would you have the same level of vitriol had Kasich or Jeb been elected instead?

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

If you look at those things, I think you'll find that he's not really Republican nor Democrat, but either something in the middle or something completely different.

Trump is a politician what he actually believes doesnt even matter. Politicians only have political leans because it helps them gain power.

Forgotten all the attacks by the liberal media already? I'd say that he's dishing out about as much as he's being dished at, and frankly, it's high time that the liberal 'news' (propaganda) media be taken down a few notches.

I am not concerned the least about the media. Either you are an idiot and believe everything they say or you are like 9/10's of every American that has ever lived and you question everything the media says. The only people that think the citizenry is sheeple are hyper partisan hacks. It makes echo chambers run smoother.

Meh. Given the tone of your post, I'm not sure that you can see things clearly. Seems pretty clear that you are awfully pissed off that Trump got elected. Or would you have the same level of vitriol had Kasich or Jeb been elected instead?

Given the tome of my post? You mean since I am not a Trump supporter, you think all kinds of BS about me? If you support Trump; knock yourself out supporting the idiot, it is after all your right. Just as it is my right to dissent. No need for you to get all pathetically personal with me. I get it you cannot accept that people actually have logical reasons to not think Trump should be president. But stop parroting Trump and his sad attempt at creating an alternative reality.

I think Trump should not be President because of his actions. ANd before you go off into the stupidity of accusing me of being a Liberal (like all Trump supporters do) I did not vote for Mrs. Bill Clinton.

 

[Zalatix]

There is scarcely a day that goes by that some leftist isn't saying some dreadful comments about DJT or other GOP'ers. It makes one wonder what kind of mental state does one have to be in to wish death on another based solely on political differences.

My suggestion to all those on the left is give the propaganda you consume every day a rest for a period of time. You may feel better about your life and not be so miserable and angry all the dang time.

Nebraska Democratic Party official ousted after controversial audio recording surfaces | KPTM

Johnny Depp Issues Apology for Donald Trump Assassination Joke | Variety

Conservatives need to condemn Ted Nugent's comments about Obama and all the burnings of Obama in effigy or liberals need to ignore all the whining that Conservatives are doing now.

 

[jdog]

Liberals are basically void of all ethics. Murder of an innocent person is perfectly acceptable to the majority of liberals if it allows the liberals to have their way. After all the world would be a better place if all conservatives were dead... Right?

They have already succeeded in having many conservatives assaulted, denied their rights of free speech, and shot in public by their spewing of hate. They have shown the world they are violent, hateful people who will lie, cheat, or kill to get what they want.

 

[DamnYankee]

Liberals are basically void of all ethics. Murder of an innocent person is perfectly acceptable to the majority of liberals if it allows the liberals to have their way. After all the world would be a better place if all conservatives were dead... Right?

They have already succeeded in having many conservatives assaulted, denied their rights of free speech, and shot in public by their spewing of hate. They have shown the world they are violent, hateful people who will lie, cheat, or kill to get what they want.

"The ends justify the means." --Leftist Motto

 

[lurchadams]

There is scarcely a day that goes by that some leftist isn't saying some dreadful comments about DJT or other GOP'ers. It makes one wonder what kind of mental state does one have to be in to wish death on another based solely on political differences.

My suggestion to all those on the left is give the propaganda you consume every day a rest for a period of time. You may feel better about your life and not be so miserable and angry all the dang time.

To suggest that everyone on the left is on board with everything Johnny Depp says is idiotic.

Do you agree with everything Alex Jones says?

 

[iguanaman]

There is scarcely a day that goes by that some leftist isn't saying some dreadful comments about DJT or other GOP'ers. It makes one wonder what kind of mental state does one have to be in to wish death on another based solely on political differences.

My suggestion to all those on the left is give the propaganda you consume every day a rest for a period of time. You may feel better about your life and not be so miserable and angry all the dang time.

To suggest that everyone on the left is on board with everything Johnny Depp says is idiotic.

Do you agree with everything Alex Jones says?

Again with the "politcal differences". That term is meaningless with Trump. He's not a politician remember? He just a rich a-hole who is taking you for a ride. As far as this topic...I have to admit I wouldn't be too upset if Trump had a heart attack and died in his sleep. He's 71 years old and that can happen at that age. I know that makes me a monster...right?

 

[Dittohead not!]

I know. Let's divide everyone into two groups. Whenever some wacko does or says something stupid, let's pretend that everyone in his group has done or said the same thing. Let's see, what should we call those two groups? I know! Let's call them liberals and conservatives. If we do this, then that will save us the effort of you know thinking.

 

[eohrnberger]

Trump is a politician what he actually believes doesnt even matter. Politicians only have political leans because it helps them gain power.

No, Trump is no politician. That's pretty clear given not only how he got elected, but also some of his many missteps after being elected. I think perhaps that the electorate (that actually votes and were actually entitled to vote) has had their fill of establishment politicians, and elected Trump. Of course the terrible campaign that Hillary ran as well as Hillary 30 some year of public exposure careering from scandal to scandal, shady deal to shady deal, didn't help her any either, so it's not all just Trump.

I am not concerned the least about the media.

I think this to be shortsighted. Since when is it the role of the 'news' media to actively engaged in pushing their ideological agenda in a concerted effort to destroy not only a legitimately elected president's administration but him as well? When the 'news' media pushes their ideological narrative so hard, so much, so constantly, it clearly ceases to be come 'news' and descended into what it's become: tabloid political propaganda.

Either you are an idiot and believe everything they say or you are like 9/10's of every American that has ever lived and you question everything the media says. The only people that think the citizenry is sheeple are hyper partisan hacks. It makes echo chambers run smoother.

No, I don't believe much the present 'news' media broadcasts and prints. They've been caught far too often doing exactly what I've stated: pushing their ideological narrative, rather than a purveyor of unbiased facts.

Given the tome of my post? You mean since I am not a Trump supporter, you think all kinds of BS about me?

No, I don't "think all kinds of BS about me". I think you are one of the many that won't even give the guy a fair shake, and there are legions, most of which would rather see this president thwarted, rather than think of the good of the nation. Rather think and purport hyper-partisan politics. It's rather disturbing not only how many there are, and to what lengths they'll go (and have already gone).

If you support Trump; knock yourself out supporting the idiot, it is after all your right. Just as it is my right to dissent. No need for you to get all pathetically personal with me. I get it you cannot accept that people actually have logical reasons to not think Trump should be president. But stop parroting Trump and his sad attempt at creating an alternative reality.

I would agree that Trump, more of then than not, is the cause of some of his own problems. However, I would observe, that some of these reasons you claim are 'logical' are anything but.

I think Trump should not be President because of his actions. ANd before you go off into the stupidity of accusing me of being a Liberal (like all Trump supporters do) I did not vote for Mrs. Bill Clinton.

No, not going to make the accusation that you are a liberal, and I don't care if you voted for Hillary or not. The fact is that Trump is the president, and we all should stop trying to tear him down, cause further or exacerbate the already hyper-divisiveness already present in political discourse, for the good of the nation. It's time to start adulting already, rather than continue to temper tantrum already.

 

[Slingshot Bob]

Conservatives need to condemn Ted Nugent's comments about Obama and all the burnings of Obama in effigy or liberals need to ignore all the whining that Conservatives are doing now.

I'll see your ted and raise you a Griffen, a depp and a "I wish he was dead"

 

[poweRob]

Bet you didn't have a problem with what Ted Nugent said about Obama.

Over here on the left, that dem got, what did that headline say? Ousted? And me as well as most people I've read on the left, condemned Johnny Depp for that asinine comment.

Meanwhile on the right, after Teddy boy made those comments you are referring to, he became quite a regular contributor on Fox News. Particularly on Hannity's show. On the right it seems that such behavior is not only condoned, but rewarded.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I'll see your ted and raise you a Griffen, a depp and a "I wish he was dead"

what?

That last part is shall we say interesting.....

Line from a movie I never saw...there are lots.....?

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

No, Trump is no politician. That's pretty clear given not only how he got elected, but also some of his many missteps after being elected. I think perhaps that the electorate (that actually votes and were actually entitled to vote) has had their fill of establishment politicians, and elected Trump. Of course the terrible campaign that Hillary ran as well as Hillary 30 some year of public exposure careering from scandal to scandal, shady deal to shady deal, didn't help her any either, so it's not all just Trump.

FFS the man is President that by all definition is a politician.

I think this to be shortsighted. Since when is it the role of the 'news' media to actively engaged in pushing their ideological agenda in a concerted effort to destroy not only a legitimately elected president's administration but him as well? When the 'news' media pushes their ideological narrative so hard, so much, so constantly, it clearly ceases to be come 'news' and descended into what it's become: tabloid political propaganda.

Its almost as if people just noticed lately that the media is biased. Where have you been for the last 50 years?

No, I don't believe much the present 'news' media broadcasts and prints. They've been caught far too often doing exactly what I've stated: pushing their ideological narrative, rather than a purveyor of unbiased facts.

I really do not know anyone that trusts the media outright. So when the media l;ies and makes mistake its par for course, nothing new.

No, I don't "think all kinds of BS about me". I think you are one of the many that won't even give the guy a fair shake, and there are legions, most of which would rather see this president thwarted, rather than think of the good of the nation. Rather think and purport hyper-partisan politics. It's rather disturbing not only how many there are, and to what lengths they'll go (and have already gone).

I dont give any person running for or holding a public office a fair shake and you shouldnt either. And I am opposed to all political parties so save the hyper-partisan crap people who are in a political party. I really think that the Democrats and the Republicans are whats wrong with this country.

I would agree that Trump, more of then than not, is the cause of some of his own problems. However, I would observe, that some of these reasons you claim are 'logical' are anything but.

Thats is kind of presumptuous, dont you think?

No, not going to make the accusation that you are a liberal, and I don't care if you voted for Hillary or not. The fact is that Trump is the president, and we all should stop trying to tear him down, cause further or exacerbate the already hyper-divisiveness already present in political discourse, for the good of the nation. It's time to start adulting already, rather than continue to temper tantrum already.

Indeed Trump is President which puts him in the hot seat of responsibility. It is my right and my duty to criticize a bad President and no amount of you whining about will stop me.

 

[eohrnberger]

FFS the man is President that by all definition is a politician.

No, he's a non-politician in a political office, and yes, he's learning as he's going. They say he learns fast. I'm willing to give him some time to see if this happens. So many, won't and don't. Regardless, he IS the legitimately elected president of the nation, and as such, for the most part, he deserves the electorate's support, the electorate that voted him, into office. Not continued degeneration and de-legitimization attacks, as in those, we all end up losing.

Its almost as if people just noticed lately that the media is biased. Where have you been for the last 50 years?

While, true, the 'news' media has been biased for quite some time, it's only been recently that the 'news' media has placed their bias on full display and at a higher priority than actually reporting verified facts. No, as of recently, they've become 'destroy Trump at all costs' mission oriented, which immediately denigrates their profession of journalism to a level of 'tabloid political propaganda', which they've displayed for the last 8 - 12 months: 'No Trump negative story shall go unpublished!'

Harvard Study: Media Coverage of Trump’s First 100 Days Sets 'New Standard' In Negativity
Lauretta Brown, Posted: May 19, 2017
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laure...andard-compared-to-past-3-presidents-n2329249

Proof in the pudding.

I really do not know anyone that trusts the media outright. So when the media l;ies and makes mistake its par for course, nothing new.

While mistakes in the 'news' media can be forgiven, retractions published, yes, that's not what we've witnessed over the last 8 - 12 months from the 'news' media. In fact the latest polls on trust in the media have hit historic lows, and they should see these as a warning shot across the their bows, before they fall into complete distrust, disbelieve, and complete lack of any credibility at all. In fact, CNN is just about there already now, but they are, after all, leading the anti-Trump 'news' media parade.

I dont give any person running for or holding a public office a fair shake and you shouldnt either. And I am opposed to all political parties so save the hyper-partisan crap people who are in a political party. I really think that the Democrats and the Republicans are whats wrong with this country.

The two party system is what we have, and it is what we will continue to have. Sure, they'll shift positions and perspectives, alter their talking points and platforms, they may even morph in unexpected directions, but in the end, we'll still have those two parties, until a third gains the support and power to dispose one of them (not likely in my estimation). I'm only hoping that the Democrat party can recover from it's insanity at some point to serve as a proper counter balance to the Republican party. It's getting far too lop sided for my liking, with the Democrat party losing over 1,000 seats since the era of Obama started.

Thats is kind of presumptuous, dont you think?

No, not really. As I observed, the tone and content of your posts. Sorry, but I can't help my impression of them.

Indeed Trump is President which puts him in the hot seat of responsibility. It is my right and my duty to criticize a bad President and no amount of you whining about will stop me.

So be it. I'd only contribute that the criticism you purport would be solidly founded in fact, rather than emotion, but as you will.

 

[Slingshot Bob]

what?

That last part is shall we say interesting.....

Line from a movie I never saw...there are lots.....?

The democrat who inspired this thread.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The democrat who inspired this thread.

Ok, I feel dumb now.

How are you liking the new hairdo?

 

[lurchadams]

Many make stupid comments, indeed. And many more defend them. It's a pattern of behavior that ought to be concerning for everyone however.

Very true regarding Trump and his supporters.

 

[lurchadams]

No, not condoning anything. Nor is he a pathological liar, though he does joke and stretch the truth, as do most, yet there are some that are far more qualified for that label, opinions and political bias depending.

And, yes, he has a tendency for unforced self inflicted wounds with his errant Tweets.

What Trump most certainly isn't is a lying, focus group driven, polls driven, bureaucrat and political hack from the establishment 'politics as usual' regime.

"I have people in Hawaii and you won't believe what they're finding" - said by Trump regarding Obama's alleged, "fake" US citizenship.

"Obama tapped my phones at Trump Tower".

"I saw thousands of Muslims celebrating the fall of the twin towers".

Not only are these statements outright lies, two of them are racist lies. Open your eyes, he's a mean-spirited, pathological liar.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

No, he's a non-politician in a political office, and yes, he's learning as he's going. They say he learns fast. I'm willing to give him some time to see if this happens. So many, won't and don't. Regardless, he IS the legitimately elected president of the nation, and as such, for the most part, he deserves the electorate's support, the electorate that voted him, into office. Not continued degeneration and de-legitimization attacks, as in those, we all end up losing.



While, true, the 'news' media has been biased for quite some time, it's only been recently that the 'news' media has placed their bias on full display and at a higher priority than actually reporting verified facts. No, as of recently, they've become 'destroy Trump at all costs' mission oriented, which immediately denigrates their profession of journalism to a level of 'tabloid political propaganda', which they've displayed for the last 8 - 12 months: 'No Trump negative story shall go unpublished!'

Harvard Study: Media Coverage of Trump’s First 100 Days Sets 'New Standard' In Negativity
Lauretta Brown, Posted: May 19, 2017
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laure...andard-compared-to-past-3-presidents-n2329249

Proof in the pudding.



While mistakes in the 'news' media can be forgiven, retractions published, yes, that's not what we've witnessed over the last 8 - 12 months from the 'news' media. In fact the latest polls on trust in the media have hit historic lows, and they should see these as a warning shot across the their bows, before they fall into complete distrust, disbelieve, and complete lack of any credibility at all. In fact, CNN is just about there already now, but they are, after all, leading the anti-Trump 'news' media parade.



The two party system is what we have, and it is what we will continue to have. Sure, they'll shift positions and perspectives, alter their talking points and platforms, they may even morph in unexpected directions, but in the end, we'll still have those two parties, until a third gains the support and power to dispose one of them (not likely in my estimation). I'm only hoping that the Democrat party can recover from it's insanity at some point to serve as a proper counter balance to the Republican party. It's getting far too lop sided for my liking, with the Democrat party losing over 1,000 seats since the era of Obama started.



No, not really. As I observed, the tone and content of your posts. Sorry, but I can't help my impression of them.



So be it. I'd only contribute that the criticism you purport would be solidly founded in fact, rather than emotion, but as you will.

The 'news' media has always been lame. And knock off the judgemental crap you are not some authority that can pass judgement on me. Try sticking with the subject instead of me personally.

 

[eohrnberger]

"I have people in Hawaii and you won't believe what they're finding" - said by Trump regarding Obama's alleged, "fake" US citizenship.

"Obama tapped my phones at Trump Tower".

"I saw thousands of Muslims celebrating the fall of the twin towers".

Not only are these statements outright lies, two of them are racist lies. Open your eyes, he's a mean-spirited, pathological liar.

For quite some time there was legitimate questions surrounding the sealed records of Obama's birth, until released. That pretty much closed the matter, to me anyway. Others? I can't speak for them.

Was there surveillance conducted on Trump and the Trump campaign? Yes. To what extent? Won't known until the records that Obama buried in his library come out. Its appears to be part of the public record that some of the Trump campaign and transition team were unmasked by Susan Rice, or do you dispute this as well?

Perhaps not thousands, but there were some who were celebrating.

As I said, he stretches the truth, just as everyone does, including you. There isn't a human alive that hasn't, so I don't see your justification.

 

[eohrnberger]

The 'news' media has always been lame. And knock off the judgemental crap you are not some authority that can pass judgement on me. Try sticking with the subject instead of me personally.

I'm not passing judgement on anyone or anything.

I do observe, and it leads me to conclusions. Tell me that you don't observe and that it doesn't lead to you conclusions.

 

[Kobie]

For quite some time there was legitimate questions surrounding the sealed records of Obama's birth, until released. That pretty much closed the matter, to me anyway. Others? I can't speak for them.

Was there surveillance conducted on Trump and the Trump campaign? Yes. To what extent? Won't known until the records that Obama buried in his library come out. Its appears to be part of the public record that some of the Trump campaign and transition team were unmasked by Susan Rice, or do you dispute this as well?

Perhaps not thousands, but there were some who were celebrating.

As I said, he stretches the truth, just as everyone does, including you. There isn't a human alive that hasn't, so I don't see your justification.

There were no "sealed records of Obama's birth." His BC was on file in Hawaii.

 

[eohrnberger]

There were no "sealed records of Obama's birth." His BC was on file in Hawaii.

So then, why such a delay in producing them?

Would seem that if they had been presented / released earlier, as they eventually were, it would have killed off this entire bull**** 'birther' thing at the early stage.

So why the delay in doing that?
What was the political advantage not to have done so earlier?

The only conclusion, using typical anti-Trump logic, would be that the entire 'birther' bull**** was self-inflicted, and must have represented some sort of an advantage, perceived or otherwise.

When produced, it was the end of it.

 

[Kobie]

So then, why such a delay in producing them?

Would seem that if they had been presented / released earlier, as they eventually were, it would have killed off this entire bull**** 'birther' thing at the early stage.

So why the delay in doing that?
What was the political advantage not to have done so earlier?

The only conclusion, using typical anti-Trump logic, would be that the entire 'birther' bull**** was self-inflicted, and must have represented some sort of an advantage, perceived or otherwise.

When produced, it was the end of it.

Why was Obama obligated to jump through hoops none of his predecessors ever had to, just to placate a relative handful of dead-enders?

And while Obama producing yet another BC killed off most of the birther movement, it's certainly not dead, as there are still morons running around here and elsewhere claiming he was born in Kenya.