If people would only read the thread in its totality. I only have 5000 characters per post (not enough to repeat every earlier point) AND give people a college education.
This is not a thread about world history; therefore, I will not debate it. Side remarks are only meant to show an analogy.
There is no scientific debate here about "white" but, rest assured, the black people in America understand their heritage as blacks. If we have to resort to a long line of descriptive adjectives -white, Christian, right leaning, conservative, middle to low income, heterosexuals... who is going to read the entire thread????
One does not have to go to world history. There was never a unified white culture in the United States between say... Southern Protestant whites in Atalanta, Georgia and the various ethnic groups in Milwaukee, Wisconsin from Europe. At least there used not to be. Arguably there is today. The Irish, Italians, Poles are all "white" people today. Mostly. This is not entirely true of some New York Italians.
I am ethnically Black-American. Unlike Obama I was raised in a Black-American neighborhood and my grandparents came from the South. Obama's black side were not ethnically Black-Americans (aka African-Americans), they were from Africa with no history or "heritage" in the American South or slavery down there.
And what "black" heritage are you talking about? My surname from my Black-American father is either Scots-Irish or Welsh according to the research my brother did. So, what the hell is "black" about that? It came from Southern enslavement.
Black-Africa was--and is--like Europe in so far as those phenotypic black people had their own
ethnicities like Wolof, Mandingo, Fulani. These people were not united by "blackness" ergo why so many of them raided rival tribal villages and sold the captives to white slave traders.
Anyways... I heard of "Melting Pot" but I never heard of this "Triple Melting Pot" E. Michael Jones spoke of in this video here:
So, I googled the term up and quickly found this:
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/219427?journalCode=ajs
University of Chicago Press Journals
American Journal of Sociology
Volume 49, Number 4 | Jan., 1944
Single or Triple Melting-Pot? Intermarriage Trends in New Haven, 1870-1940
Ruby Jo Reeves Kennedy
In New Haven a "triple-melting-pot" type of assimilation is occuring through intermarriage, with Catholicism, Protestantism, and Judaism serving as the three fundamental bulwarks. Catholics mostly marry other Catholics; Jews almost always choose Jewish mates; while Protestants prefer non-Catholic Gentiles. Our statistics show a marked adherence to these religious choices. Thus the different nationalities are merging, but within three religious compartments rather than indiscriminately: with Protestant British-Americans, Germans, and Scandinavians intermarrying mutually; Catholic Irish, Italians, and Poles forming a separate intermarrying group; and Jews remaining almost completely endogamous. A triple religious cleavage rather than a multilinear nationality cleavage, therefore, seems likely to characterize American society in the future.
What I find
interesting is that in the abstract above the author uses the term
"nationalities" to refer to Catholics, Protestants, and Jews. Earlier in this thread I stated that
traditional Catholicism views the Catholic Church, Catholics, as a "nation." A nation made up of different races and ethnicities if you will. I also stated that in the Afrocentric social sciences (here in the USA) they use the word "nation" in place of the word "ethnicity" most of us use, and claim the United States is a country made up of many nations (or nationalities).
And here in an old American sociology journal you have some intellectual making a similar claim about the USA.
