I learned something incredibly bad about the trump family tonight, watching Rachel Maddow

[noonereal]

I'd rather wait to see if an actual journalist could cover this story.

Because it's likely that we're only getting whatever the writers at MSNBC want us to hear.

i can't stand mad cow but she is as good as journalism gets, this i admit

 

[j brown's body]

Mary Trump's description of Trump as still a child seeking attention is spot on. His penchant for giving his opponents nicknames and his rationalizing his corruption and lies by blaming others has always reminded me of his being a middle school bully.

 

[ttwtt78640]

i can't stand mad cow but she is as good as journalism gets, this i admit

Her style of journalism tends to be much the same as is used by Ancient Aliens - theories are often presented using "Isn't it possible that..." or "Could this be evidence of..." type of interrogative hinting that there may (could?) be some factual basis for accepting a given theory which she is putting forth.

 

[danielpalos]

Fox News got the Hospital Ship story correct. Rachel Maddow did not. He just went on an angry tirade and was 100% incorrect.

From March and April when we thought we had the pandemic under some semblance of control, until the right wing decided the pandemic was a hoax and infection rates are climbing exponentially?

 

[jcgriff2]

Your post is so absurd you might as well say ants are our best novelists. There's no point talking to you, sorry to say.

It is a shame, seriously, as it shows the utter divisiveness in this country and why the 2 sides will unfortunately never find a common ground - or at least bridge some of the huge gap between us.

I don't find my post absurd at all. Maddox at one time had to be in middle ground while investigating news or reporting it. But she is not that same person any longer. She hates republicans. You never knew what side Cronkite was on.

These days, however, the only stories she reads her writer's scripts for are negative Trump stories.

I don't know this for a fact, but I'll bet that in the last 5 years she has never done one single story on anything positive that Trump has done.

 

[Razoo]

Once again, she nails the story.

I'd heard vague things about the trump kids fighting over the estate of fred trump, recently it was revealed how donald trump and his siblings had fraudulently misrepresented the estate as only $30 million to their niece and nephew to steal the vast majority of it. These siblings were the *trustees* obligated to protect the interests of the family members they defrauded. I had no idea.

The day of fred trump's funeral in 1999, his deceased son's son had a baby born. Unfortunately, the child had terrible medical problems. I won't try to do them or the massive resources needed for them justice, see the video below.

The trump family assured him the medical bills would be covered by the family's insurance company, and they were, to the great relief of the family.

Until months later, when the siblings decided to cut the fifth sibling, the son who had passed away, out of the inheritance - his children, specifically. In order to pressure them not to fight it, they cut off the medical care for the sick child. Start watching at 3 minutes.

The Rachel Maddow Show - 7/16/20 | MSNBC | Top News Show

The shallow mind of Donald Trump hard at work .......

 

[iguanaman]

Once again, she nails the story.

I'd heard vague things about the trump kids fighting over the estate of fred trump, recently it was revealed how donald trump and his siblings had fraudulently misrepresented the estate as only $30 million to their niece and nephew to steal the vast majority of it. These siblings were the *trustees* obligated to protect the interests of the family members they defrauded. I had no idea.

The day of fred trump's funeral in 1999, his deceased son's son had a baby born. Unfortunately, the child had terrible medical problems. I won't try to do them or the massive resources needed for them justice, see the video below.

The trump family assured him the medical bills would be covered by the family's insurance company, and they were, to the great relief of the family.

Until months later, when the siblings decided to cut the fifth sibling, the son who had passed away, out of the inheritance - his children, specifically. In order to pressure them not to fight it, they cut off the medical care for the sick child. Start watching at 3 minutes.

The Rachel Maddow Show - 7/16/20 | MSNBC | Top News Show

That explains how Trump could steal charity money meant for children with cancer and not feel a thing. We have a real monster in the Whitehouse. What could go wrong?

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business

 

[AlphaOmega]

From March and April when we thought we had the pandemic under some semblance of control, until the right wing decided the pandemic was a hoax and infection rates are climbing exponentially?

Hmmm...was that the same time period lefties were protesting and rioting in massive crowds across America?

 

[danielpalos]

Hmmm...was that the same time period lefties were protesting and rioting in massive crowds across America?

It wasn't lefties in public office alleging the pandemic was a hoax.

 

[Craig234]

It is a shame, seriously, as it shows the utter divisiveness in this country and why the 2 sides will unfortunately never find a common ground - or at least bridge some of the huge gap between us.

I don't find my post absurd at all. Maddox at one time had to be in middle ground while investigating news or reporting it. But she is not that same person any longer. She hates republicans. You never knew what side Cronkite was on.

These days, however, the only stories she reads her writer's scripts for are negative Trump stories.

I don't know this for a fact, but I'll bet that in the last 5 years she has never done one single story on anything positive that Trump has done.

You talk about 'two sides' as if they're equally reasonable, similarly trying to do decent things. That's an error.

You try to demean her as 'reading scripts' prepared by writers, with no idea how much she contributes. Cronkite was a lot like her; he didn't have to cover trump. When trump doesn't do anything good for 5 years, and reporters don't make up good things and lie to say he did, you say they're biased. That's another error.

What changed more with Cronkite is that, like presidents before Nixon, there was a lot more citizen trust in presidents and news media. It was a time before the right went radical, lying and attacking those who told the truth as much.

JFK would have been massively attacked by today's right, without respect for the office; the right now has its own ultra partisan, lying, media that did not really exist then. The media wasn't perfect then - it's largely better now. Maddow's show is better than anything on the air those days, telling more truth. But our country's corruption has in ways worsened, matching the change in stories.

Take for example one of the biggest stories of that era, the Vietnam war. It was based on lies. The news was unable to report the truth about it. Today, the media is far better about telling such truths (and on the right, far worse about lying about them). You would say that's 'left and right', but more accurate is 'truth and propaganda'. The media today is both better and worse. Rachel is one of the best. I suspect you have barely if ever watched her show.

 

[Craig234]

Your first reading assignment is to read my posts

Your writing assignment is to say what you think you said, and to read the posts responding what you did say and try to understand.

 

[jcgriff2]

You talk about 'two sides' as if they're equally reasonable, similarly trying to do decent things. That's an error.

You try to demean her as 'reading scripts' prepared by writers, with no idea how much she contributes. Cronkite was a lot like her; he didn't have to cover trump. When trump doesn't do anything good for 5 years, and reporters don't make up good things and lie to say he did, you say they're biased. That's another error.

What changed more with Cronkite is that, like presidents before Nixon, there was a lot more citizen trust in presidents and news media. It was a time before the right went radical, lying and attacking those who told the truth as much.

JFK would have been massively attacked by today's right, without respect for the office; the right now has its own ultra partisan, lying, media that did not really exist then. The media wasn't perfect then - it's largely better now. Maddow's show is better than anything on the air those days, telling more truth. But our country's corruption has in ways worsened, matching the change in stories.

Take for example one of the biggest stories of that era, the Vietnam war. It was based on lies. The news was unable to report the truth about it. Today, the media is far better about telling such truths (and on the right, far worse about lying about them). You would say that's 'left and right', but more accurate is 'truth and propaganda'. The media today is both better and worse. Rachel is one of the best. I suspect you have barely if ever watched her show.

I've seen parts of her show over the years and cannot stand the constant Trump bashing. It's not only Trump she goes after, but other GOP as well.

Yes we definitely were lied to during Vietnam from the videos I've seen on Youtube.

But it was Cronkite (while Johnson was president) who returned to the US after the Tet Offensive and said on the air that in his opinion, the Vietnam war was not winnable. He did not trash Johnson or anyone else after saying it. That would never happen today on the 3 political networks. 2 of them would blame Trump.

You talk about news - where do you get your news from? CNN used to be my favorite until they stopped reporting news and went on a political junket like MSNBC and Fox News does too.

Enjoy Maddox tonight. I have a court case coming up that I have to prepare a client for tonight.

 

[AlphaOmega]

It wasn't lefties in public office alleging the pandemic was a hoax.

Apparently lefties including you believed it was a hoax. None of you opened one of your yappers to denounce the protestors and rioters for spreading disease during a pandemic. Not ONE!

 

[danielpalos]

Apparently lefties including you believed it was a hoax. None of you opened one of your yappers to denounce the protestors and rioters for spreading disease during a pandemic. Not ONE!

The protesters are not protesting the pandemic. And, yes, some on the left believe the unorganized militia should have "rioted before the Man died" due to a lack of Due Process.

 

[Integrityrespec]

I'd rather wait to see if an actual journalist could cover this story.

Because it's likely that we're only getting whatever the writers at MSNBC want us to hear.

Well we certainly know that Trumps niece has an axe to grind with her aunts and uncles, so can we trust what she says and can we trust Rachel Maddow. I know the answer to the Maddow question, hell no. She's a crazed anti Trump liberal.

 

[Craig234]

I've seen parts of her show over the years and cannot stand the constant Trump bashing. It's not only Trump she goes after, but other GOP as well.

Yes we definitely were lied to during Vietnam from the videos I've seen on Youtube.

But it was Cronkite (while Johnson was president) who returned to the US after the Tet Offensive and said on the air that in his opinion, the Vietnam war was not winnable. He did not trash Johnson or anyone else after saying it. That would never happen today on the 3 political networks. 2 of them would blame Trump.

You talk about news - where do you get your news from? CNN used to be my favorite until they stopped reporting news and went on a political junket like MSNBC and Fox News does too.

Enjoy Maddox tonight. I have a court case coming up that I have to prepare a client for tonight.

And every word, basically, is the truth. It's YOU who have a problem with the truth, not Maddow. Your misspelling her name doesn't help you. That was probably one of Cronkite's two most famous broadcasts, but it doesn't change that the media hugely did not reveal the truth, which it would now. Where to get news? Countless places. Maddow, Hayes, NY Times, Washington Post, Commondreams.org, Amy Goodman, CNN, many more.

 

[Craig234]

Well we certainly know that Trumps niece has an axe to grind with her aunts and uncles, so can we trust what she says and can we trust Rachel Maddow. I know the answer to the Maddow question, hell no. She's a crazed anti Trump liberal.

Standard right-wing logic. Right-winger is scum. Good relative doesn't like scum. So the good relative is suspect for not being trustable. Your Maddow comment is predictably delusional.

 

[AlphaOmega]

The protesters are not protesting the pandemic. And, yes, some on the left believe the unorganized militia should have "rioted before the Man died" due to a lack of Due Process.

Straw man. No one claimed they were. They were FACTUALLY spreading disease (according to lefties stated covid 19 warnings) by ignoring social distancing rules. Not one of you has denounced them this proving you ALL are full of **** on covid.

 

[joko104]

Once again, she nails the story.

I'd heard vague things about the trump kids fighting over the estate of fred trump, recently it was revealed how donald trump and his siblings had fraudulently misrepresented the estate as only $30 million to their niece and nephew to steal the vast majority of it. These siblings were the *trustees* obligated to protect the interests of the family members they defrauded. I had no idea.

The day of fred trump's funeral in 1999, his deceased son's son had a baby born. Unfortunately, the child had terrible medical problems. I won't try to do them or the massive resources needed for them justice, see the video below.

The trump family assured him the medical bills would be covered by the family's insurance company, and they were, to the great relief of the family.

Until months later, when the siblings decided to cut the fifth sibling, the son who had passed away, out of the inheritance - his children, specifically. In order to pressure them not to fight it, they cut off the medical care for the sick child. Start watching at 3 minutes.

The Rachel Maddow Show - 7/16/20 | MSNBC | Top News Show

She's been crying about this for years and years. She is nothing but the grand daughter who estranged herself from the grandfather and her uncles. Tough luck she wasn't in the will. The grandfather could write any will he wanted to. She sued, sobbing that her uncles have to give her money and pay her bills. She lost. So she undertook a smear campaign of lies after she spent all the money in her extortion paid off in a an agreement she now has broken. She's just a lazy ass liar who claims everyone else has to pay for her life.

This is a nothing burger.

 

[poweRob]

I see you are handwaving the evidence away and denying facts.

It's a favorite past time of his.

 

[poweRob]

I don't really care for the book. Creative license makes such things, rather untrustworthy.

No one expected trump worshippers to so... no sweat. There are facts then there is trump cult speak.

 

[poweRob]

Rachel Maddow isn't a journalist. He is a political entertainer.

She shines the light shone on dark cultists. So no wonder you hate her.

 

[DiAnna]

She's been crying about this for years and years. She is nothing but the grand daughter who estranged herself from the grandfather and her uncles. Tough luck she wasn't in the will. The grandfather could write any will he wanted to. She sued, sobbing that her uncles have to give her money and pay her bills. She lost. So she undertook a smear campaign of lies after she spent all the money in her extortion paid off in a an agreement she now has broken. She's just a lazy ass liar who claims everyone else has to pay for her life.

This is a nothing burger.

Her grandfather did have a will, which left everything to all five siblings. Fred, the father of Mary and her brother, died; his will left everything to them, which should have included his share of Grandpa's fortune. However, the four other siblings got together and hatched a deal that Grandpa's money would only be split four ways, leaving Mary and her brother out, and if they refused to accept the deal, their critically ill child would lose his "Trump Insurance" policy which would leave him without the medical care he'd need and he wouldn't have survived.

You really should learn the actual facts before you butcher them publicly.

 

[poweRob]

Rachel Maddow is a political entertainer. Look at how he was completely wrong about the hospital ships. He has no business pretending he is a journalist.

She brings facts and that scares you pretty badly. Which is why you are in here constantly calling her a he. Because she makes you **** your pants. :lol:

 

[Tanngrisnir]

While you worship Epstein as your personal savior is norm for your little group?
-there played by your rules.

Now go hunker down in the CT threads.
Because had you actually been able to prove anything with that report. Then plenty of things would be different right now.

But now, we still have you continually bleating out that something happened. Even though we can just look it up and see that in fact, it didn't.

You have your chance to actually discuss it and to be civil about it. Yet you pissed that chance away.

LOL! You, whining and braying about being civil when all you do is repeat debunked talking points, try and talk about things you fear reading and lash out in impotent emotional rage when you have no rational response?

That's precious. Almost as precious as you barfing up imaginary baubles ("THINGS WOULD BE DIFFERENT NOW!!!") to cover for your ignorance of the contents of the Mueller Report and/or the political realities of have compromised whores like McConnell running the Senate and Barr running the DOJ.

Yet again, you're in miles over your head.

And it's "There, played by your rules." Or even, "There. Played by your rules."

You're welcome!