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I could molest a 13 year old on the capital steps and they would still vote for me!

WCH said:
He was in the national spotlight during the 10 commandments struggle and there were no women coming forward. Why might that be?
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Maybe they weren't aware of the others and didn't want to get attacked by the right-wing woman haters who blame women for their own victimization. If your imagination was as effective at thinking about why victims stay silent as it is at thinking up reasons to disbelieve them, you might look more objective and less like another cog in the conservative misogyny engine..
 
D_NATURED said:
Maybe they weren't aware of the others and didn't want to get attacked by the right-wing woman haters who blame women for their own victimization. If your imagination was as effective at thinking about why victims stay silent as it is at thinking up reasons to disbelieve them, you might look more objective and less like another cog in the conservative misogyny engine..
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Yea right, Al Franken
 
WCH said:
Yea right, Al Franken
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Al Frankin is not being defended by anyone and, as far as I know, his transgressions weren't nearly as numerous or predatory as your boy Roy's were. Nice try using the old "look over there" tactic. Unfortunately, you're trying to compare Charlie Chaplain and Charles Manson.
 
D_NATURED said:
Al Frankin is not being defended by anyone and, as far as I know, his transgressions weren't nearly as numerous or predatory as your boy Roy's were. Nice try using the old "look over there" tactic. Unfortunately, you're trying to compare Charlie Chaplain and Charles Manson.
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Harvey, Bill, Kevin, George, ...where do you rate them?

All of your preconceived notions about Conservatives are bull****. The sooner you learn that the less ignorant you'll look.
 
WCH said:
Harvey, Bill, Kevin, George, ...where do you rate them?

All of your preconceived notions about Conservatives are bull****. The sooner you learn that the less ignorant you'll look.
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I don't need to have any preconceived notions about conservatives, they do enough objectively dumb and immoral **** in real time for my opinions to be justified.

I don't rate those other guys, I don't doubt that any of them did what they are accused of. Fortunately, none of those guys you mentioned are running for the Senate.

Again, why mention others unless you're trying to eqivocate? Sexual predators can come from either side of the aisle. The difference is that the right wing predator in question, like many or most of his political allies, believes that his politics and his faith are moral credentials and NOBODY claims that being an actor is. Therefore, the denials and false equivalecies from the right are especially disturbing and hypocritical.

What I'm seeing conservatives do with Moore is what I saw them do when I was a child, using denial and counter accusations to create doubt rather than admit that monsters can dwell comfortably within their organizations. I have an uncle that should have been imprisoned or murderered for his sexual crimes but those around him cared more about maintaining the false christian fascade they had constructed around their own more than they cared about protecting their children.
 
D_NATURED said:
I don't need to have any preconceived notions about conservatives, they do enough objectively dumb and immoral **** in real time for my opinions to be justified.

I don't rate those other guys, I don't doubt that any of them did what they are accused of. Fortunately, none of those guys you mentioned are running for the Senate.

Again, why mention others unless you're trying to eqivocate? Sexual predators can come from either side of the aisle. The difference is that the right wing predator in question, like many or most of his political allies, believes that his politics and his faith are moral credentials and NOBODY claims that being an actor is. Therefore, the denials and false equivalecies from the right are especially disturbing and hypocritical.

What I'm seeing conservatives do with Moore is what I saw them do when I was a child, using denial and counter accusations to create doubt rather than admit that monsters can dwell comfortably within their organizations. I have an uncle that should have been imprisoned or murderered for his sexual crimes but those around him cared more about maintaining the false christian fascade they had constructed around their own more than they cared about protecting their children.
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So you have an axe to grind?

See what Moore is actually accused of and compare that to your Uncle.

Roy Moore Accuser Scorecard - BillLawrenceOnline
 
WCH said:
So you have an axe to grind?

See what Moore is actually accused of and compare that to your Uncle.

Roy Moore Accuser Scorecard - BillLawrenceOnline
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No, what my uncle did was worse, that's why I didnt call for Moore's death. Of course I have an axe to grind with public figures being excused for their sexual misconduct with minors. How do you not?

Your article claims, after multiple accounts of inappropriatw behavior being admitted by Moore that the testimony of the then 14 year old should be dismissed on principle, because the complaint happened during an election. I propose that there is actually an utter lack of principles among the Republicans if this child predator is elected to anything more than dog catcher.

I'm shocked at the effort being expended to excuse this criminal hypocrite who uses Jesus as a cover for his true nature. I guess we've finally established that the Republican age of consent is as low as it needs to be to divorce themselves from any responibility for whom they elect.
 
D_NATURED said:
No, what my uncle did was worse, that's why I didnt call for Moore's death. Of course I have an axe to grind with public figures being excused for their sexual misconduct with minors. How do you not?

Your article claims, after multiple accounts of inappropriatw behavior being admitted by Moore that the testimony of the then 14 year old should be dismissed on principle, because the complaint happened during an election. I propose that there is actually an utter lack of principles among the Republicans if this child predator is elected to anything more than dog catcher.

I'm shocked at the effort being expended to excuse this criminal hypocrite who uses Jesus as a cover for his true nature. I guess we've finally established that the Republican age of consent is as low as it needs to be to divorce themselves from any responibility for whom they elect.
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Political affiliation matters not...but you know that.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hmmm...interesting. :think:

A way to get someone to stop running for office by alleging something "naughty" happened decades before, with no evidence but an accuser's naked word, and the "believe the 'victim'" crowd demands the candidate step down (and let their favored Party candidate get the seat virtually unopposed).

No questions about the accuser's (or multiple accusers) motivations for waiting all those years, ignoring past political elections, and with no actual evidence the allegations are true.

I wonder why the accused would dare to keep running, and people would still dare to support him on such damning "evidence."

How disgusting! :roll:
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So you are saying there is absolutely no collaboration on these accounts?
 
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