Hydroxychloroquine rated most effective COVID-19 treatment.

[BlueTex]

We should be hearing soon. In New York, the drug combination trial started last Tuesday,
if it is working, we should be seeing the curves between the patients getting the drugs and those getting the placebos, separating.
I am not sure how long it will take the results to be released, but, if it looks like it is working, I would expect
that news to be released fairly quickly.

There is no need for a trial to see these miraculous results... The FDA EUA specifically authorizes the use of the drugs WITHOUT a trial... They have been available for use in ICU's since March 28th... That's over a week...

 

[BlueTex]

If you watched the briefing it was already asked/answered. Sorry but you don't get to troll the POTUS. Thats what happened there.

Where did a medical expert address this during the briefing yesterday?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Where did a medical expert address this during the briefing yesterday?

The question was about Trump touting of the drug which he explained ad nauseum. Watch your own video, it answered in a most logical manner. People are dying, we dont have time for a 3 year study. These drugs are already proven to be safe for humans, even children. There is nothing to lose by trying them when your option is death. Trump is 100% spot on. Just pretend Obama said to use them...you will then be able to see the logic.

 

[BlueTex]

The question was about Trump touting of the drug which he explained ad nauseum. Watch your own video, it answered in a most logical manner. People are dying, we dont have time for a 3 year study. These drugs are already proven to be safe for humans, even children. There is nothing to lose by trying them when your option is death. Trump is 100% spot on. Just pretend Obama said to use them...you will then be able to see the logic.

Then why aren't ICU doctors already prescribing this treatment? They have had over a week... We should he hearing hundreds of stories of miraculous recoveries? Are all the ICU doctors part of the deep state trying to take down Trump by letting their patients die?

 

[longview]

There is no need for a trial to see these miraculous results... The FDA EUA specifically authorizes the use of the drugs WITHOUT a trial... They have been available for use in ICU's since March 28th... That's over a week...

The actual trial results is what will get the drug combination used by doctors. (Only if successful).

 

[BlueTex]

The actual trial results is what will get the drug combination used by doctors. (Only if successful).

The president is arguing we don't have time to wait for a trial.

Would you expect to see COVID19 in patients that have been using hydroxychloroquine since before this virus even emerged?

 

[DarkWizard12]

The study by Dr. Raoult started with 24 patients and ended with 20.... The 20 were what he declared a success... As to the other 4, 3 went to the ICU and one died.

Feel free to read it yourself...

https://www.mediterranee-infection....2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

20 or 30....all i remembered is that it was a small number, and preferably we would need 100 or more at least for a good trial. Still, i don't think we should fret over OTC medication, especially when the "counterstudy" has even fewer numebrs. Certainly it's not dangerous with medical supervision, and if countries like south Korea are telling us it works, people should be able to try it, again, with medical supervision.

 

[AlphaOmega]

Then why aren't ICU doctors already prescribing this treatment? They have had over a week... We should he hearing hundreds of stories of miraculous recoveries? Are all the ICU doctors part of the deep state trying to take down Trump by letting their patients die?

They are. Didn't you watch the briefing? Millions of pills are being sent out as we speak. If you don't want to take them, no one will force you to. In fact you trump haters could speed the trial up by refusing them. Then we can count how many die in your group as opposed to those who took them. I'm gueasing there will be a demand for these so just don't take them that way we can be assured there is enough for one of my family members if need be.

 

[BlueTex]

They are. Didn't you watch the briefing? Millions of pills are being sent out as we speak. If you don't want to take them, no one will force you to. In fact you trump haters could speed the trial up by refusing them. Then we can count how many die in your group as opposed to those who took them. I'm gueasing there will be a demand for these so just don't take them that way we can be assured there is enough for one of my family members if need be.

Are you suggesting that hospitals didn't already have a ready supply of hydroxychloroquine on hand when the EUA was announced?

 

[MTAtech]

Doctors from every corner of earth are using it and have nothing but good to say about it's results.

Just take the "L" you look like an embittered idiot that will never admit he was wrong. Have some dignity and walk away.

Was there a control sample?
A friend sent an email to me linking a NYPost article that said 81% of people taking Hydroxychloroquine get better.
According to data from New York, 76% of people admitted to hospitals with COVID-19 get better too, without Hydroxychloroquine.

Saying, aunt Mary took Hydroxychloroquine and was cured of COVID-19 and therefore it's proof that Hydroxychloroquine cured COVID-19, is anecdotal and not evidence.

 

[BlueTex]

20 or 30....all i remembered is that it was a small number, and preferably we would need 100 or more at least for a good trial. Still, i don't think we should fret over OTC medication, especially when the "counterstudy" has even fewer numebrs. Certainly it's not dangerous with medical supervision, and if countries like south Korea are telling us it works, people should be able to try it, again, with medical supervision.

Would you expect longtime hydroxychloroquine users to come down with COVID19?

 

[AlphaOmega]

Are you suggesting that hospitals didn't already have a ready supply of hydroxychloroquine on hand when the EUA was announced?

No. How did you arrive at that?

 

[longview]

The president is arguing we don't have time to wait for a trial.

Would you expect to see COVID19 in patients that have been using hydroxychloroquine since before this virus even emerged?

The President can say whatever he wants, but the Doctor signing his name to the prescription is who matters,
and I suspect most of them would like to reference a successful trial, for cover.

Your second question raises an interesting point, the second phase of the New York trial, is if people talking hydroxychloroquine
have a lower change of catching covid-19. For the long term patients receiving hydroxychloroquine, this could be an added data point,
and one they appear to be looking at, with a trail.

 

[BlueTex]

No. How did you arrive at that?

Then what is the hold up? It's been over a week... We should be seeing hundreds of patients being taken off ventilators after successful treatment with this miracle cure..

 

[BlueTex]

Your second question raises an interesting point, the second phase of the New York trial, is if people talking hydroxychloroquine
have a lower change of catching covid-19. For the long term patients receiving hydroxychloroquine, this could be an added data point,
and one they appear to be looking at, with a trail.

Turns out there is actually a study being conducted... Early results so far...



The COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance | The Global Rheumatology Community's response to the worldwide COVID-19 Pandemic

 

[longview]

Turns out there is actually a study being conducted... Early results so far...

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The COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance | The Global Rheumatology Community's response to the worldwide COVID-19 Pandemic

cool!
Let us hope that one of the many avenues of testing shows some promise!

 

[AlphaOmega]

Then what is the hold up? It's been over a week... We should be seeing hundreds of patients being taken off ventilators after successful treatment with this miracle cure..

Have you been watching any briefings at all?

 

[BlueTex]

Have you been watching any briefings at all?

What does that excuse have to do with when the EUA went into effect? Where are the recoveries? Why are ICU doctors not prescribing this treatment yesterday? We should be seeing results in 24 hours, 48 hours at most...

 

[AlphaOmega]

What does that excuse have to do with when the EUA went into effect? Where are the recoveries? Why are ICU doctors not prescribing this treatment yesterday? We should be seeing results in 24 hours, 48 hours at most...

Everyone...he clearly has not watched a single briefing.

 

[BlueTex]

Everyone...he clearly has not watched a single briefing.

Just answer the question... Why are we not seeing miraculous recoveries in ICU's all over the country already?

 

[j brown's body]

It's funny to actually watch this.

The Trump haters now are super skeptical on the use of hydroxychloroquine, just because Trump said it may work. If he hadn't said a thing, they wouldn't care one way or another, they'd just read about the successes of using the drug.

But now, they hate it. It can't be working, and they will resist all reports that it is, and pray for reports of people dying after using it. Because they so desperately need to blame Trump. Blame him for anything they can, then move on and attack on something else.

If this drug ends up being a great help in the fight against the Wuhan virus, then, they never heard of it. Hydro what? Never said a thing. What a bunch of phony suckers. This is the standard MO of today's Democrat/Socialist. And these clowns would be the first ones screaming to get the drug if they got a serious case of the virus from China. Pathetic.

Seems more like you guys are desperate for Trump to be right about something, which is kind of understandable. This medicine might work and doctors may try it, but they were aware of these things before Dear Leader brought it up.

 

[DarkWizard12]

Would you expect longtime hydroxychloroquine users to come down with COVID19?

Yes. From what i've read, hydroxychloroquine(plus azithromycin) isn't a cure, but a treatment that works by keeping the coronavirus from attacking the ACE2 receptors in the lungs, thus keeping people in ICU from dying from it. I would imagine all the other affects, the flu-like symptoms would still affect people, but that's just my hypothesis and my expection as studies are done. So, I would imagine, people would still get sick, but they wouldn't have breathing problems. We'll see what studies reveal.

 

[BlueTex]

Yes. From what i've read, hydroxychloroquine(plus azithromycin) isn't a cure, but a treatment that works by keeping the coronavirus from attacking the ACE2 receptors in the lungs, thus keeping people in ICU from dying from it. I would imagine all the other affects, the flu-like symptoms would still affect people, but that's just my hypothesis and my expection as studies are done. So, I would imagine, people would still get sick, but they wouldn't have breathing problems. We'll see what studies reveal.

You should check out this early research...

The COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance | The Global Rheumatology Community's response to the worldwide COVID-19 Pandemic

Pretty interesting.. (warning: very small sample size so far)

 

[dcsports]

Would you expect longtime hydroxychloroquine users to come down with COVID19?

I would not expect it to do so. It's not like a flu shot, which kicks in your body's defenses to help prevent the flu. It's closer to Tamiflu. It decreases the viral load (hopefully) to decrease the virus's impact. It's only a miracle in the sense that it may keep the sickest people from getting sicker. If you can keep sick people out of the ICU, or the sickest off of the ventilator (or dying), it will have a tremendous impact. This becomes more of a bad flu equation, and we can racket back the lockdown.

 

[DarkWizard12]

You should check out this early research...

The COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance | The Global Rheumatology Community's response to the worldwide COVID-19 Pandemic

Pretty interesting.. (warning: very small sample size so far)

Yea, it's small. There was a Randomized Control Trial with 62 people that was statistically significant, but it came from china so i don't want to have to rely on it too much....however, south korea seems to have had great success with it so...if it works, it works. Efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in patients with COVID-19: results of a randomized clinical trial | medRxiv