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How Gary Johnson and Jill Stein helped elect Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com
So this has been an election of excuses around the board. But the whining, the crying, the carrying on by some on the left, the riots and the assaults....good lord. And here's another bit of the "it's everyone's fault but mine" argument I've been seeing going around much more prevalently than I have seen in the past. People are starting to lash out at the very limited few of us who voted for third party. I mean, I think Johnson got like 3% of the popular vote, but it's 3rd parties fault that Hillary lost.
It's not. Hillary lost against a powderpuff candidate because she ran a **** campaign, because she had serious character and credibility issues with America, because she didn't do a good enough job. She lost because she failed. End of story. Everything was set up for her win, so I understand why some people are so upset about her loss. How could she, when the system was a perfect storm of events that seemed to be selecting her as next president? Because she f'd up. She didn't connect with the voters and States she needed to in order to win.
So with all this crying and finger pointing going around, now I'm starting to see this backlash against the third parties. We're told how insignificant we are and how we're throwing votes away all up until the point that we made your candidate lose. Piss off. If you wanted my vote, you have to put up a good candidate, one I can support; else I will vote third party. The failure isn't because people voted third party, it was because Hillary couldn't capture the votes.
And if we're just going to lash out at groups, how about the neigh half of eligible voters who didn't vote. Could have pulled from there, but didn't.
If Johnson and Stein weren't in the race, it's also possible many of their supporters may have stayed home. But if about half of Johnson's supporters would have voted for Clinton over Trump, and if most of Stein's supporters broke for the Democrats, the electoral map would have been decidedly different.
So this has been an election of excuses around the board. But the whining, the crying, the carrying on by some on the left, the riots and the assaults....good lord. And here's another bit of the "it's everyone's fault but mine" argument I've been seeing going around much more prevalently than I have seen in the past. People are starting to lash out at the very limited few of us who voted for third party. I mean, I think Johnson got like 3% of the popular vote, but it's 3rd parties fault that Hillary lost.
It's not. Hillary lost against a powderpuff candidate because she ran a **** campaign, because she had serious character and credibility issues with America, because she didn't do a good enough job. She lost because she failed. End of story. Everything was set up for her win, so I understand why some people are so upset about her loss. How could she, when the system was a perfect storm of events that seemed to be selecting her as next president? Because she f'd up. She didn't connect with the voters and States she needed to in order to win.
So with all this crying and finger pointing going around, now I'm starting to see this backlash against the third parties. We're told how insignificant we are and how we're throwing votes away all up until the point that we made your candidate lose. Piss off. If you wanted my vote, you have to put up a good candidate, one I can support; else I will vote third party. The failure isn't because people voted third party, it was because Hillary couldn't capture the votes.
And if we're just going to lash out at groups, how about the neigh half of eligible voters who didn't vote. Could have pulled from there, but didn't.