How did you choose a political party?

[Patriotic Voter]

Since Trump has been in office employment is up, unemployment is down, and wages are up. the states with the highest number of poor, income inequality, one percenters, and high homeless numbers are all in the blue Democratic states. There's a reason for that. Liberal policies don't work. When Obama was president income inequality continued to grow. Whenever liberal policies fail they find a way to blame it on Republicans when it's their very own damn fault. Now all of that is just talking economics. When it comes to other issues, conservative issues, such as abortion and many others like closing our border to illegals, my values lean to the right and I absolutely hate political correctness and social justice warrior bullcrap. All of these people can go to hell. And, when you start talking far left progressive **** like Bernie, Warren, AOC, and others favor, these people can all go to hell too.

The minimum wage is still $7.25 per hour. No attempt has been made to raise it during the Trump administration.

It is the Republican Party's fault that old, poor, and disabled people don't get what they need because elephants always vote against tax increases to keep as much money as possible. Have you ever noticed rich people are conservative? Meanwhile, poor people are more likely to be liberals because the government helps them out. If you want the government to stay out of the business of helping poor people, look for a millionaire who wants to give the same amount of money to the same people for the same causes (health care, food/drinks, housing, jobs).

 

[Luther]

Interesting that you do not seem to recognize your own indoctrination. :shrug:

Which is?

Interesting that your post is so vague?

 

[Luther]

What about the Libertarian Party?

What about them?

They're vain no?

 

[Luther]

Looked at what the Party's had to offer and their downsides and decided it was best to be an Independent and have remained so all my life.

Yes, you either pick Democrat or Republican

So many choices(LOL)

 

[Luther]

The minimum wage is still $7.25 per hour. No attempt has been made to raise it during the Trump administration.

It is the Republican Party's fault that old, poor, and disabled people don't get what they need because elephants always vote against tax increases to keep as much money as possible. Have you ever noticed rich people are conservative? Meanwhile, poor people are more likely to be liberals because the government helps them out. If you want the government to stay out of the business of helping poor people, look for a millionaire who wants to give the same amount of money to the same people for the same causes (health care, food/drinks, housing, jobs).

Have you ever noticed rich people are conservative?

You actually should do a little research on that and see just how many rich are liberal.

, poor people are more likely to be liberals because the government helps them out.

Absolutely, candy is hard to turn down, especially when you're born into it and become content on this candy

 

[Moderate Right]

The minimum wage is still $7.25 per hour. No attempt has been made to raise it during the Trump administration.

It is the Republican Party's fault that old, poor, and disabled people don't get what they need because elephants always vote against tax increases to keep as much money as possible. Have you ever noticed rich people are conservative? Meanwhile, poor people are more likely to be liberals because the government helps them out. If you want the government to stay out of the business of helping poor people, look for a millionaire who wants to give the same amount of money to the same people for the same causes (health care, food/drinks, housing, jobs).

Wages have been rising and states have risen their minimum wage as they see fit, the way it should be. Very few people actually make $7.25 per hour so that argument is pure malarkey left wing talking points. The left always crap on Walmart and McDonalds but neither have paid their workers $7.25 per hour for decades.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Was it something you learned in American history, having Great Depression parents or grandparents, or maybe a Bible chapter?

I asked myself "Is there a party which isn't owned by criminal warmongers/sociopaths?"

So I'm not a Democrat or Republican.

:thumbs:

 

[Casper]

Yes, you either pick Democrat or Republican

So many choices(LOL)

Well there are Third Parties but they are often too fringe to actually win many offices.
What is needed is something new representing the Middle and Common Sense.

 

[Luther]

Well there are Third Parties but they are often too fringe to actually win many offices.
What is needed is something new representing the Middle and Common Sense.

What is needed is a national protest of the party system and start making Americans out of Americans(Reform our citizenry)

Nothing for the better happens politically until we first accomplish that

Amen?

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Wages have been rising and states have risen their minimum wage as they see fit, the way it should be. Very few people actually make $7.25 per hour so that argument is pure malarkey left wing talking points. The left always crap on Walmart and McDonalds but neither have paid their workers $7.25 per hour for decades.

If stores and restaurants don't pay at least that much, they are breaking the law. And for "decades" the minimum wage was much lower. When I got my first job, the MW was $4.25 per hour.

Of course, state minimum wages have nothing to do with Donald Trump. Anytime people say the MW went up during his administration, they are not talking about anything he did.

 

[Mr Person]

You choose by voting your values, or as close to them as your chosen party can manage. Though that may not be as plausible of a strategy in this day and age.

So Trumpists value walking in on minors changing if you happen to own the pageant? They value sexual assault? They value lying about everything, even when the lie cannot possibly benefit the liar even if everyone believed it? They value corruption, cronyism, and nepotism? They value taking actions to speed up Iran and NK nuke production? They value kissing the ass of the country they claimed was our "greatest geopolitical foe"?



Cause they voted for that guy.

 

[Moderate Right]

If stores and restaurants don't pay at least that much, they are breaking the law. And for "decades" the minimum wage was much lower. When I got my first job, the MW was $4.25 per hour.

Of course, state minimum wages have nothing to do with Donald Trump. Anytime people say the MW went up during his administration, they are not talking about anything he did.

Wages have gone up because the economy is doing well and unemployment is low, forcing employers to compete for workers. And, yes, Trump can take credit for that.

 

[SCrider]

I have never needed to know anything about the French Revolution, for example. I've needed to know how to get a job, how to have a healthy relationship, how to manage money, how to drive, first aid, how to shoot a firearm, how to eat healthy on a budget, how to operate a computer, how to care for a dog, how to pick the facts out of mainstream media's bias stories.....but I've never needed to know anything about South Africa. Knowing how GPS works is infinity more relevant to my life than Shakespeare's writings or trigonometry.

Sad for you.

 

[JMR]

Which is?

Interesting that your post is so vague?

You suggest (no, actually state) that people who identify as socialists have been indoctrinated, yet seem oblivious to how knee jerk opposition to socialism indicates indoctrination.

That is not particularly vague.

 

[Mortician]

I vote Republican because I don't want socialism to destroy this country.

I became a Republican from a mix of life experiences, family, friends, going to college twice for my undergrad and graduate major. I think Trump once said that he was socially liberal but fiscally conservative. That is the way I am. I have swung back and forth through the years between democrat and republican. I agree with the republicans on how the government should spend their money, but I agree more with democrats when it comes to social issues.

Because of my business and economic classes in college I am very anti-socialism and think Capitalism is the best for everyone in the end. Everything my economics and business professors taught me in college seems to be true as far as how businesses work. I am against minimum wage laws because I think they hurt lower wage workers more then help them. I also think unions make it harder for people to get job in a particular job market. For an example I could never land a cushy union job as a laborer or warehouse worker, but I had no problem landing those same types of jobs when I applied to companies that were non-union. From the knowledge I gained from my business classes at college, my own experience working many different jobs in many different occupations, and from the life lessons I have learned from others I have concluded that the free market with little government interference works best for everyone. I believe in trickle down economics. I believe the rich are getting richer but so is everyone else, the world is certainly not getting poorer.

I am more liberal on social issues such as religion, abortion, women's rights, minority studies, gay & lesbian rights, legalization of drugs vs non-legalization because of the many classes I took in college and classmates I met from many different backgrounds. Although I vote Republican I would say that I am more a Deist/ Atheist.

 

[Perotista]

Was it something you learned in American history, having Great Depression parents or grandparents, or maybe a Bible chapter?

I've never belonged to a political party, although I did identify with Ross Perot's Reform party for a few years. Even then, I voted my conscious regardless of party labels. I could never understand owing one's heart and soul, following a party around like a mindless robot, taking everything they or their leaders say as gospel while thinking everything the other party says and does as a lie and evil.

Let's face it, for party animals the odds are half the time they'll vote for the best candidate, the other half for the worst candidate. I take candidates individually, I take my stances on the issues one at a time, either for or against. Same for policy and legislation. What I really detest in this current political era of divisiveness, polarization, ultra high partisan is Republicans being automatically opposed to any Democratic proposal and Democrats being automatically opposed to any Republican proposal. Neither give the proposal, the legislation a thought or even look at the merits of the proposal or legislation. Whether the legislation or proposal would be good for America or not. Just who proposed it.

Needless to say, both major parties disgust me to no end.

 

[Irwin Corey]

How did you choose a political party?

Hummm, well, I started out as a Republican; being a young lion with my own business and all. Then Ronald Regan became president and turned me into and independent; which is funny because when he came to speak at my College he convinced me I was republican. But anyone could see what his Voodoo Economics would do to our country, I thought, but in reality I had no idea how it would destroy the American Dream all you tRump folks are "againing" about.

Then Mit Romney told his peeps that he wasn't responsible for nearly 1/2 of the Country, the half that most need to be represented and taken care of. A big part of that half are the rebels that go to tRump's rally's and cheer him every time he ****s on the Constitution. Of course he does it in such a smooth divisive way that they don't see that his whole presidency is an attack on the Constitution and strives to replace our tri-cameral form of Government with a Dictatorial presidency answerable, only, to his plutocratic Oligarch backers.

Anyway, when Jimmy Carters Grandson caught Romney selling out Common AmeriCANs to his plutocrat cronies I knew I had to do everything in my power to make sure he never became OUR President. And I did, so much so that President Obama sent me a Christmas Card … and I wasn't even a Democrat.

Not sure what Democrat is gong to run against the Donald but they'll probably be sending me another Christmas card because I believe tRump is the greatest threat to the Freedom of the Common Man in OUR Country and it's Constitution since it was founded. I'm a Constitutionalist; and there is no cure for that disease. I caught it in College when I took a Class on the Constitution taught by a man that, if nothing else, taught me to love my Country and it's Constitution more than life; like he did. It makes me sad to read that education is "just garbage". Education is what makes us rise and be better humans even if you don't use "IT" on the line Monday morning.

I don't think there is a "party" for me. Lately I've been against more than I've been for. You can bet I'll be AGAINST tRump like OUR Country's continued existence depends on his defeat; because it AbsaByGodLutely does.

 

[Good4Nothin]

To be fair, I've never needed to know a thing about the French Revolution in order to do my job. Most of the things we teach children is garbage.

If you don't know about history, you can't possibly understand the present. Maybe you don't care about understanding the present, and all you want to know is how to do your job. But we more than our jobs. We are citizens of a nation and of a world. Without history, you have no perspective at all.

 

[Good4Nothin]

I've been at it 6 years and the Lewis and Clark Expedition has never come up. My employer doesn't even reach the west coast. I need to read, write, basic math, basic social skills, and be in general good health (lots of moving, reaching, lifting, binocular vision, etc). That's it. I work in a warehouse, we build trusses, pre-hung doors, various lumber and concrete products, process warrantees, ship trucks to retail stores, etc. What would Lewis and Clark have to teach me?

This thread is about voting, not about working in a warehouse. When you go to vote, you need to know about the origins of this country.

And whoever said you only need American history is wrong. Anyone who wants to understand anything about life needs to know something about the evolution and history of our species.

Do you only care about this moment in time? Do you think this moment in time is unrelated to all previous moments?

 

[Good4Nothin]

Was it something you learned in American history, having Great Depression parents or grandparents, or maybe a Bible chapter?

I was born in a family of Democrats. When I was 11, we went to see JFK. Being a Democrat was automatic for me, and I always voted for the Democratic presidential candidate. Until I started to think harder about politics, somewhere in my 30s. Then it became difficult to decide who to vote for. It's easier just to chose red or blue.

 

[btthegreat]

basically I realized that on more issues than not, I agree with Dems, and I was ideologically closer to them on the spectrum than anyone else. I am just recognizing a pattern in my thinking tends to fit a pattern in their platform. Its not exact, and I feel perfectly free to disagree rather fervently should the spirit move me.

 

[charliebrown]

I change parties regularly depending on the candidate. I do believe in the core values of both DEM and REP parties. It is usually the execussion (or lack thereof) that disappoints me with both parties at times.

 

[Wayne Jr]

If you don't know about history, you can't possibly understand the present. Maybe you don't care about understanding the present, and all you want to know is how to do your job. But we more than our jobs. We are citizens of a nation and of a world. Without history, you have no perspective at all.

It's true that I know nothing about the present state of France. Nor do I care.

This thread is about voting, not about working in a warehouse. When you go to vote, you need to know about the origins of this country.

Not really, no. Voting is incredibly easy, just compare the candidates and vote for whoever supports the policies you value. It takes maybe 10 minutes from knowing nothing to knowing who to vote for.

And whoever said you only need American history is wrong.

No one said that, so...

Do you only care about this moment in time? Do you think this moment in time is unrelated to all previous moments?

Investing is another thing I needed to know about, that was not taught in school.

 

[Good4Nothin]

Not really, no. Voting is incredibly easy, just compare the candidates and vote for whoever supports the policies you value. It takes maybe 10 minutes from knowing nothing to knowing who to vote for.

 

[dairyair]

Was it something you learned in American history, having Great Depression parents or grandparents, or maybe a Bible chapter?

By realizing both are corrupt. Bought and paid for by big campaign $$$$. By knowing at the national level, they play good cop bad cop. Periodically changing roles.